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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Anyone want a mum of teenagers support thread

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Ledkr · 27/11/2015 09:01

Thought we could swap ideas, sound off and generally help each other through it.
Lots of you will know from here I'm no shrinking violet but my nearly 14 yr old dd is slowly breaking my spirit, home has become a miserable place to be and I know I'm messing this up.
I've had 3 teen boys and have worked all my life with various types of challenging young person and I'm pretty well respected but my own child is draining the life out of me.
The thing is, it's not huge behavioural stuff, it's probably very normal. I need to learn to pick my battles I know but I simply cannot ignore blatant rudeness or pick up someone's knickers often still containing a sanitary towell and not react.
Is this the answer? Compromise my integrity and become a skivvy just for a quiet life?
I could go on, but I'll see if anyone wants to listen first.
Thanks if you read so far Smile

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Moetandchandon · 18/05/2016 17:39

Oh I don't relish the thought of dd lying around all summer doing nothing. I hope she will try and help out around the house a bit but I see conflict on the horizon coz she will be horrified at the suggestion! She also thinks she deserves a rest after studying so hard Shock. She will probably spend loads of time at bf's which I don't mind - peace and quiet for me ha ha. She can lie around at his house and annoy his parents instead of me Grin.

Bumperstickers · 18/05/2016 18:35

Oh no Girlandboy that's awful. Hope you are OK. I've been on the receiving end of one of dds outbursts quite a few times so I know how hurtful it is.
Its a stressful time for all at the moment with exams. Is he feeling the pressure and taking it out on you perhaps?
Dh used to tell me to leave dd alone and let her sort herself out but I used to make things worse by going into her room and trying to discuss things, which just ended up in more rows and me in tears.
Apparently they do grow out of it but it's hard when you are in the thick of it. You are not alone Flowers

girlandboy · 18/05/2016 18:55

Thank you Bumperstickers (although your kind words have made me cry again Hmm )

Outwardly he doesn't seem much bothered by his GCSE's, but that might just be a "front".
He mentioned yesterday that he likes a girl at school but she's a bit rubbish at returning his texts. He did say that it was probably because she was revising, and he said that with a wry smile! So maybe that's what's stressing him out. He even said that social media has a lot to answer for, because he can see when she's on facebook etc through the messenger app, and yet she's not answering him. God, that makes him sound like a stalker Confused Grin
I'm not going to go into his room because I know it'll make it worse.

Considering all he's eaten today is a cereal bar for breakfast Hmm and his packed lunch then he's going to be mighty hungry soon. I'd already done a jacket potato for him, but I didn't bother cooking him any chicken kebabs which I did for the rest of us. His loss. I sincerely hope he doesn't come down to root through the kitchen cupboards looking for snacks else DH is going to go mad. I'm dreading that prospective show-down more than anything at the moment.

And this is what I hate - the dread and walking on eggshells.

Peebles1 · 18/05/2016 20:20

How are things with your DDs snowdrop and Icandothis? Is your DD doing GCSEs Ican?

Girlandboy sorry you are feeling so bad. If it's any consolation a lot of what you say reveals that you have a close relationship and your DS tells you lots about his life (texting you about his exam, telling you about the girl). We never know what's going on that we don't know about, that's contributing to the stress and moods. I've been there with the DH thing - hope it's ok tonight for you.

girlandboy · 18/05/2016 20:52

Thanks Peebles Yes, I suppose we are quite close when all's said and done. He's not always communicative, but I can usually get something out of him Hmm

He's just been downstairs and walked into the kitchen to get himself something to eat. DH was already in there and told him that the jacket potato was still on offer if he wanted to reheat it, or he could make himself something proper to eat. But he couldn't just go getting snacks out of the cupboard.
Cue a bit of stomping around about unfairness, but DH stood his ground and said that that's how it is. He either has dinner at the proper time or gets himself something proper.
The reply? "I thought everyone realises I need to put some weight on" (he's a bit tall and rangy) "and now I can't have anything"
"Yes you can"
"No I can't......because"
"Because what?"
"Because" .......repeat 5 or 6 times...... "Because SHE shouted at me"

My fault entirely then...
Just stopped myself vomiting again.

Even reading this back looks totally pathetic. I feel such a failure. I feel like a shitty mother.
Especially when I can read other's posts and I can see my problems are tiny in comparison.
Roll on tomorrow I suppose for round 2.

girlandboy · 18/05/2016 21:03

And thank you everyone for your supportive comments. I appreciate it very much.

Peebles1 · 18/05/2016 21:25

You're not a failure or a shitty mother. It's just a bad day - Monday was a good day, and there will be more good days. Everything just seems horrible when you're in the middle of a bad one. Been there!

You do seem extremely upset though - to the point of vomiting. Do you have a DD too (just coz of your username)? How does she fit into the family dynamics? Does she help at all? It's maybe the DH/DS relationship that makes you so upset, going on stuff you've said but I might be wrong.

And your problems aren't pathetic, it's obviously very upsetting for you. Try and relax and look after yourself. Sounds like your DH dealt with the snack business ok.

girlandboy · 18/05/2016 21:52

Yes you're right, there'll be better days (I hope)

I do have a DD. She's 20. She went through a bit of a difficult phase, but nothing in comparison to what her brother is like. She's got a lovely boyfriend, she's out with him tonight, but will be back later. She's actually looking at moving out in the next few months with her boyfriend, but this situation is pushing her out sooner than originally planned. I can't say I blame her - I wouldn't mind going too! The relationship between DD and DS can be sweet sometimes but volatile at others - so fairly normal I'd say.
The relationship between DH and DS can be truly awful at times, but great at others. Probably pretty normal again.

I do have other worries that make me stressed, but that's nothing to do with teenagers, so that's not for this thread. But it's to do with going NC with my mother, fielding screaming phone calls from her, insults etc. And having my DF in end stage Alzheimer's and living in a home. It's all a bit much. I get a bit vomity before visiting Dad too as it's so awful.

I think today's nosebleed was purely down to blood pressure.

And thank you for replying.

Peebles1 · 18/05/2016 22:34

Ahhhh I wondered if there were other things going on. You poor thing, what an awful lot to deal with. Glad your DD is a good 'un, and I'm sure DS is too (and DH!). Hope tomorrow is a better day for you Flowers

Plainflour · 18/05/2016 23:25

Girlandboy and everyone else - Flowers.

Ledkr · 19/05/2016 07:15

Have has a hideous few days with dd. She has her period but seems to get "during menstrual tension" rather than just pmt.
she is more airy and forgetful than usual and can only communicate rudely and by shouting.
Dd2 is only 5 and has been off school poorly and I felt really bad for her having to put up with a shouty house.
Dd seems to have become obsessed with going out after school and cannot think about anything else.
Yesterday she announced she had to take cookery ingredients for school today but DONT KNJW WVAT THEY ARE, IVE LOST THE BOOK FGS, I NEED TO GONOUT MY FREINDS ARE WAIITING.Hmm
I told her I was popping to the shop so she needed to tell me what to buy or she'd have nothing. Eventually she called a friend.
She also seems unable to go to sleep at night. Up and down mooching about, constantly dropping stuff on the floor. In and out of the bathroom. I block her phone so it's not that.
So then st 11 I say will you just go to sleep which is met by shouting.
Then dh sees a light on and realises she has her I pad so calmly asks for it, again she screams at him. This is all taking place next to my 5yr olds bedroom who had a temp of 39 earlier Confused I told her to stop shouting so she shouted louder, I told her to give over her I pad, she shouted even louder.
Dh took the pad and I have told her ages but going to her friends on Friday.
She screamed at me like a maniac then howled loudly for about 20 mins regardless of neighbors or her poorly sister.

I'm done!

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girlandboy · 19/05/2016 08:47

Ledkr I'm so sorry you're going through such a hard time. Especially with your little one so poorly as well. I hope she improves soon.
Do you think that in years to come these teenagers will look back on their behaviour and feel ashamed of what they were like? Or are they just too thick skinned?

DS has just got up with 10 minutes to spare to get the school bus. I left out a couple of cereal bars (not ideal, but at least he could eat them on the bus) but he wouldn't take them. His reason? Because apparently he's not allowed to eat now! And all because I wouldn't let him take his dinner to his bedroom. So therefore I'm obviously banning him from eating food!! WTAF!!
I told him that was not the case, and that I hoped he would come home with a different frame of mind. What's he going to do? Starve himself?

This is exactly NOT the type of thing I can cope with while he's in the midst of his exams. I feel so angry/sad/sick/trembly and yet I'm trying to appear totally reasonable in front of him.

I'm sick of him. I actually feel sick and faint. And I'm crying again.
DD has gone to work. DH has gone to work. They'd both gone before DS got up. I feel utterly wretched. And my heart is pounding.

Moetandchandon · 19/05/2016 16:08

Oh dear Girlandboy. I hope you are feeling a bit better now and I hope your ds comes home in a better mood. I have felt how you are feeling with my dd at times and I'm the same in that our problems are not serious but it does get you down when you have other issues to deal with, and you certainly have, and you are more sensitive as a result. It doesn't take much these days to set me off crying I can tell you, so I understand.
Is there anyone outside of your family you can talk to, have a good moan to? It always makes me feel better and puts things into perspective. If not just keep posting on here.
Hope you have a better night.

Ledkr · 19/05/2016 22:54

Dd was so annoyed that I'm sticking to my guns about not going to her mates, sge rang her deadbeat dad who picked her up. She then asked him and his dp if she could go and they said no too!
So that told her!

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RaptorInaPorkPieHat · 20/05/2016 16:38

I hope everyone's having a nice uneventful time Wink

DD is once again the subject of "unkind" rumours at school (I'm not repeating them but they are utter bollocks - and even if they weren't it not the type of thing to be gossiped about). This time, I've emailed straight away, I'm not waiting to see if it dies down on it's own (which it didn't last time). The head of year is the same person who dealt with the last set of rumours (also bollocks) and he was very good so I'm hoping he'll kick the little shit into next week give the pupil involved a robust telling off and that will be that.

I am so sick of teenagers!

mumeemoo · 20/05/2016 16:57

Hello please can I join this group?.not sure where to begin so apologies if this turns into a.long vent. I have 3 teens -1dss (16) 1ds (15) and 1dd 13 next month. Dss lives with us every other week. He suffers from uclerative colitis and is currently having a particularly nasty flare up. He can be argumentative and stubborn about food (he won't eat - didn't before the colitis but he is now more fussy and we are worried because he is underweight). Dss is very introverted at school, was bullied at primary school. He has been very wary of.making friends and has not participated much in school life. The colitis over the last two years hasn't helped.

Ds2 is the vvv stroppy teenager. Rude, unsympathetic. Sense of entitlement, doesn't care how.much he upsets everyone so long as he can do what he wants at anyone time. He has a very engaging personality - he is popular at school with students and teachers alike..although teachers are frustrated by his lack of focus (as are we). However he rarely bothers to turn on the charm at home either with us or his dad and sm.

My dh is at the end of his tether. He is fairly old fashioned. He sets very tight boundaries, which worked when they were younger especially as all 3 had not had an easy time because of our failed marriages (both my xh and his xw walked and we met some time later to give you some context). We recognise that so called blended families (or liquidised may be a better term sometimes) have their own challenges. However I don't think we factored exactly what living with teenagers would be like. Dh cannot let a single rude comment, gesture or smirk go by without chastising the "perpetrator" - usually Ds2. I am more of the pick your battle school of thought and try and ignore the low level rude mumbling. I also tell myself it's perfectly okay to have to ask five times before anyone designs to get up off their arse and do a basic chore Angry

But dh doesn't so we get to the point where dh and Ds2 are having a stand off where they are as rude as each other and I am telling dh off as much as Ds2 and I end up retreating to my room. This cannot be good for our marriage.

Both Ds2 and dss are doing their gcses. After years of bare minimum engagement Ds2 has realised he does care after all so is cramming like mad. Dss is more academic than ds2 but also not really focused very much. This may be down to his illness but getting him to do anything before he was ill was a battle. We have encouraged him to keep working as much as he could with his illness because there is nothing more stressful than having to do an exam you haven't prepares for. Anyway the upshot is that it is stress city in our house usually culminating in a screaming match almost every mealtime. I am exhausted by it and my dh and I are also snapping much more at each other.

On the upside our dd is lovely and is the peacemaker. My concerns about her are around her body image and her obsession that she is by far from perfect. She has yet again grown out of her clothes - she is tall and broad and a very different build to me. She takes after my mother's side of the family whereas my frame is much smaller, like my dad's side. She became very subdued earlier this week when I took one of the tops she has "grown out" of for myself. I have been kicking myself ever since at my thoughtlessness - it was a top from a high end high street store that she begged me to buy. I don't normally indulge her but I had had a little windfall that week and she had worked particularly hard on a project at school and cooked us dinner (yes teens can be lovely too!). Anyway she has only worn it once and I'm afraid my thrifty side took over and I thought I'll. Have that without thinking about her feelings at all. I haven't worn it and won't when she is around but I am now really worried she is going to develop a body image problem and worse. How do I help her recognise that it's okay to look like you do and be happy about it without overdoing it and making her more self conscious than she was in the first place.

God it's a.mindfield isn't it. Babies and toddlers were so much easier. Sorry this is so long. I know.others have.much more pressing issues with their teens than I do buts the relentlessness of their emotions and mini dramas that are wearing me down!

Peebles1 · 20/05/2016 18:33

Raptor, hope it gets dealt with effectively. Crap that's it's happened again. I don't remember/know the details of the first time. Is it the same perpetrators?

Mumeemoo that sounds so stressful! And with two of them doing GCSEs as well. Ugggghhhhhhh. I can relate to the DH bit as mine has been very old school in the past. He had to bend in the end as it's just not like that with teenagers, and it's been a learning curve for both of us. We still fall out sometimes though. I'd say our DD has put the biggest single strain on our marriage (I'm not blaming her in saying that, it's just a fact - we're the 'adults' so our fault if anyone is at fault). No magic answers, though I agree with you totally about picking your battles.
Sorry about your DD situation, too. Poor little thing. It's so hard with all these perfect bloody body images in the media. Maybe take her shopping for something she feels great in???

sn0wdr0p4 · 20/05/2016 19:43

Thank you for asking Peebles. DD has been pretty stressed all week, but has been more communicative. I took a step back, stopped asking how the exams were going etc. We had a good chat following the AQA Biology debacle, she actually found it easier than expected. She burst into tears a couple of times at school but luckily has some supportive friends.

Following a moment of weakness I currently have six sixteen year olds staying in my caravan on the drive! They are ordering a takeaway and relaxing. It won't be a late night as they have to be in school at 9am tomorrow for an English revision session.

This time next week we'll be halfway through everybody WineChocolateWineCakeWine

mumeemoo · 20/05/2016 20:51

Thank you peebles. Didn't know how stressful it was until in wrote it down. Good to know it is possible for an old school.dh to learn to bend. I hope mine does too. I agree it's not the dc's fault when we are making it up as we go along too!

Ds2 was in a good mood tonight as Spanish gcse went well until he remembered I wouldn't let him go to a party (he asked earlier in the week.as well as would I get him some beer as well. Err no. He is 15). He then asked if 2 friends could sleepover. We are so exhausted from the endless drama this week and our busy jobs. Not to mention dss is currently curled up in his bed with stomach and back pain. We may be back in hospital at some point this weekend. So I said no. I don't usually say no. Anything for a quiet. Life. But I have this time. He is kicking off. Hates us. This house. His life is shit blah blah blah. I am drowning him out writing this Cooking dinner and looking for some gin. He is taking the dog for a walk. Probably good for us all.

Think I Might take dd shopping tomorrow. Great idea and takes me away from this madhouseSad

Peebles1 · 20/05/2016 21:57

Sounds good snowdrop. Glad things have improved. DD doing A-levels so she hasn't actually started yet. I'll be left alone moaning on here while you're all relaxing, haha! Anyone else's DCs doing A2?

Mumeemoo I was reading your post thinking 'oh good, DS happier' etc, but then I read on! Hope the dog walk helped clear his anger a bit. Great idea to look for gin!! Hope DSS is ok, poor thing. Don't suppose exam stress helps his condition.

mumeemoo · 20/05/2016 22:29

Thanks peebles. Gin is definitely the way to go sometimes! Ds back from walk. Getting a dog has been a brilliant way of detracting rows. He is much calmer now. He is also happy because some of his old school friends (we moved town 3 years ago) have face timed him. Dss also seems a bit better after eating a cheese sandwich. He couldn't face eating a meal But that's a whole other thread...

All in bed. Dh and I have had 10 minutes for a chat/debrief and a hug. I had a bit of a cry. It's been a looooong week. He is now kindly sorting the washing so I can relax a bit. All is now calm in the mumeemoo household. Long may it last... thanks for listening

Ledkr · 22/05/2016 09:01

Glad things are calmer for people.

Does anyone have trouble with teens literally eating everything they see?
Dd seems to go on a grazing frenzy as soon as she's left alone.
Sge will literally eat abythjng.
Yesterday she had eaten porridge, yogurt, crisps and biscuits while we were out. Then she had some pizza and a plate of chilli, tacos and rice.
Dh abd I popped to the pub for two hours after dinner and I've just realised that she's opened both packs of ham I'd bought for lunches (so annoying as I've got to use them both up now) scoffed loads of dd2 littke tube yogurts and opened and eaten most of the pack of littke snacks I'd bought for a picnic today Shock and that's just what I can see!
She ate a few if dd2s Easter eggs and hid the boxes and also her truck or treat sweets.
She's a good weight and doesn't vomit or anything it's just pure greed and it's driving me mad.
I dint have the time or money to be replacing it all!

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mumeemoo · 22/05/2016 14:16

We have this too. Then to make things worse they leave empty packets and boxes in fridge and cupboard so you think there is some left until you go to use it. And what is it with opening up new stuff before the older but perfectly fine one is finished? Confused.

It sort of goes in fits and starts in our house so I have put it down to growth spurts and try not to get too cross. My attitude is I have bought the food to be eaten so I try not to lose it when they do. When I do notice they are on an eating binge i stock up on things that are easy and quick to eat like uncle Ben rice pots etc. The boys have also taken to cooking pasta if I buy some sauces (did count 4 opened jars in the fridge last week though Confused) . I found out dd had being cooking pasta and/or pancakes for her dbs so shamed them into cooking for themselves - I am not bringing up lazy boys who leave it to the girls to feed them. But my food bill is definitely getting bigger!

RaptorInaPorkPieHat · 22/05/2016 15:30

Thanks Peebles It's a different pupil from last time (relatively small school though) although the rumour does involve the same friend as last time. The HoY emailed back within the hour (he is generally really good) and said he would deal with it first thing on Monday and will email me again once it's done. So hopefully that will be that.

Yes, Ledkr we have this, DD can get through mountains of crisps/coke/chocolate etc, but as she's gone through several periods of hardly eating I'm happy to let her get on with it. Grin

I'm more concerned about the floordrobe that has appeared in her bedroom (half clean, half dirty and there's no telling the two apart) Wink

Peebles1 · 22/05/2016 15:57

DD not too bad, but when two DSs are home from uni the food bill shoots up. YY to empty packages - so annoying.

Have any of you read 'The Teenager Who Came To Tea' (spoof of 'The Tiger Who Came To Tea')? It made me laugh.