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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Anyone want a mum of teenagers support thread

975 replies

Ledkr · 27/11/2015 09:01

Thought we could swap ideas, sound off and generally help each other through it.
Lots of you will know from here I'm no shrinking violet but my nearly 14 yr old dd is slowly breaking my spirit, home has become a miserable place to be and I know I'm messing this up.
I've had 3 teen boys and have worked all my life with various types of challenging young person and I'm pretty well respected but my own child is draining the life out of me.
The thing is, it's not huge behavioural stuff, it's probably very normal. I need to learn to pick my battles I know but I simply cannot ignore blatant rudeness or pick up someone's knickers often still containing a sanitary towell and not react.
Is this the answer? Compromise my integrity and become a skivvy just for a quiet life?
I could go on, but I'll see if anyone wants to listen first.
Thanks if you read so far Smile

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Curiousflannel · 13/01/2016 21:04

Yes dd16 here is the same. Does not want a Saturday job. Too much effort. She would rather spend the day horizontal, on her phone or out with her mates. She would rather have no money than actually have to do something. Its drives me nuts seeing her wasting her time doing nothing. But I am not allowed to comment on it!

The same reasoning seems to apply to college as well. Why would she want to leave and get a job where, although she would be earning, would mean she would have to work all day and get very little holidays. So she will stay at college, do next to no work and basically just socialise and doss around. Again no comment allowed as I am interfering!

BG2015 · 17/01/2016 09:13

Give me a toddler anyday! It was easier than this. I have 2 DS, one 16 & one nearly 13.

Moved house 7 months ago after living 9 miles away from school due to ex partners job. So boys are now close by to all their friends. It's been a steep learning curve.

My house often resembles the local youth club. Each son has had 7/8 kids in their rooms at one time or another. I'm often asking them all to leave and trying to limit to 2/3 friends.

I kicked 5 of my DS1 friends out at 3.15am the other Saturday, he had been told no one was allowed to stay (he conveniently didn't get my text though😡) they were making so much noise (we live in a 3 storey house with boys bedrooms on the top floor) I went up like a banshee in my dressing gown screaming for them to get out! I'm the talk of school for kicking them out!

They aren't bad kids but the messy rooms, plates, dishes with food still in them, clothes everywhere, toilets with pee/poo in them (unless cleaned by me) just disgust me.

pandora987 · 17/01/2016 16:53

can I join? My DD is 13 and worrying the hell out of me with mood swings, depressive thoughts, inappropriate on line stuff, panic attacks in school, refusing to get up at weekends until the afternoon, being referred to counsellor, etc. Worried how much is typical teen and how much I should be really worried about... Help!!

Curiousflannel · 18/01/2016 08:39

I'm back again and need support. Dd driving me nuts again. Apparently she shouldn't have a bed time as she is nearly 17! I can't sleep myself if I know dd is awake half the night. And then she has trouble getting up the next morning. I go out before her so can't make sure she is up and out on time.

I have read some similar stuff on here, and maybe have moaned about it myself but dd just thinks everything is a joke and i should just leave her alone. She is always late because she can't manage her time ( on her phone usually instead of getting ready) and thinks it does not matter.

This is not the only issue with her but thought I'd start with this. It just one of the things that stresses me out. Help. Am I being silly and what can I do?

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Peebles1 · 18/01/2016 10:21

Curious - yep, my DD exactly. Same age and everything. Gave up long ago on all you've mentioned. How crap am I? Sad

Curiousflannel · 18/01/2016 15:59

Yes but how do you give up on it Peebles? That's what you need to do for your own sanity but I struggle with it. I seem to give it much more importance than it really is. So what if she's late. Does it matter? Well yes if she's late and can't hold a job down. She'll never leave home and I'll be stuck with her forever! Ha only joking.

And let's not get started about the lack of study. But then again its her lookout if she wants to mess up at college. So why can't I let this go as well? I feel like a bad mother if I don't try and keep her on track but its not working and only causing friction

Grrrr. I'm like a broken record going on all the time but reading other posts and knowing there are others going through similar helps. And in real life people don't want to hear this all the time (especially my mum) so I tend to keep quiet.

I know what I have to do (step back) but can't do it Sad.

And you are not crap Peebles. We all just try and do our best.

Peebles1 · 18/01/2016 17:56

Thanks curious. I know exactly what you mean. I vow to step back, and try and stick to it, but keep getting drawn in again. Made her a doc's appt for this afternoon (as agreed with her) to change antidepressants coz they're making her sleepy. She's just come in - missed the appointment. I feel like screaming at her! She's supposed to be catching up on work ( missed college again today) but guess what. She's ill. Again! She's ALWAYS ill! She probably is, but it's yet another day/week/month going by with no work. So when she's not ill she should make the most of it and DO SOME BLOODY WORK!! Then I take myself back full circle and think: well who cares, doesn't matter if she fails bla bla bla just like you. Think she's a year above your DD actually. 18 in a few months. Doing A-levels (allegedly!). Why can't we just chill and back off? She'd clearly hate uni anyway - it's just three more years of hated study! Think all this might be more my problem not hers!!! Wish I was as chilled as her!! And she's dropped her iPhone in water. ARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Curiousflannel · 18/01/2016 18:44

The only thing chilled about me is the copious amounts of white wine I consume to calm my nerves Grin.

Yes I go round and round in circles as well , telling myself it doesn't matter then not being able to stop myself interfering.

Its utter shite!

Peebles1 · 18/01/2016 19:17

I know. Wish the whole lot of us on this thread could just meet up and get pissed. That would be great. I don't meet many (if any) similar IRL. Have a good set of friends and lovely family, but they haven't 'been there' iyswim. Here, have some Wine DD's asleep now, so I've calmed down, haha!

BG2015 · 18/01/2016 22:03

I think sometimes these kids have got to mess it up themselves (sadly at our expense) before they get it! My friends DS went to the wrong uni and course, twice, before he found his way.

I don't set a bedtime for my 16 DS but I know he turns his light out at 11. Ds2 at 12, can't quite regulate his bedtime so needs reminding.

Wine would be good! I'm doing Dryathlon and the 1st Feb seems a loooong way away!

stablemabel · 19/01/2016 15:29

Wish the whole lot of us on this thread could just meet up and get pissed oh that has made me Smile Peebles can you imagine the scene Shock?

Virtually no one at work has teens, neither do any family or friends, the people know have either younger or grown up children. Andif I do know anyone with teens then they are the perfect teen...fuck me does such a thing exist?

Wine Chocolate Wine Chocolate repeat to fade...........

Acatcalledfluffy · 19/01/2016 15:39

Yes. Surrounded by perfect teens here, who all get on fabulously with their parents and study so so hard at school Envy.

BikerDad177 · 19/01/2016 21:46

I am at my wits end with my DS2 who is 12 & just started secondary school in Year 7. He is so lazy, spoilt, dirty, rude, unmotivated, argumentative & basically anti- everything!!

Constant arguments at home especially to do with homework. In his first term I had to practically do his homework for him!! Bad move which I now regret.

Now into his second term & he is now refusing to do his homework. Have spoken to his head of year teacher & was told to step back & let him face the consequences at school. Only problem is that if he has not done his homework due in that day then he will refuse to go into school. Clearly he does not want to get told off by the teachers & yet still refuses do the homework!!

Please help with some valuable advice... Don't know what else to do.

stablemabel · 19/01/2016 22:04

Hi Biker, welcome to the happy (not) crowd of stressed parents, hope we can help. As you say Only problem is that if he has not done his homework due in that day then he will refuse to go into school. Clearly he does not want to get told off by the teachers & yet still refuses do the homework!! So tell the school all this, as it is school setting the homework then I think it is up to them to deal with it (of course with your input). Does he struggle with the work, what do you think his reason not to do it is? And does he have a future job in mind (I know it's early days but some kids do) and if he does he should understand the need to put some effort in at school.

I would maybe put it in the plainest terms possible to him, something along the lines of:-

Homework done = life is easier all round at home and school

Homework not done = grief from school, grief at home, school work becomes tougher and tougher, life gets more difficult

Or something like that, no need for big long lectures. Good luck.

BikerDad177 · 19/01/2016 23:06

Hi Stable. Thanks for the advice.

My DS2 is within top percentile in his class based on last term's exams, so he is by no means incapable. Simply lazy/unmotivated to a fault!!!

I think once he gets home from school he just wants to slouch out & do no more school-related work. To him, homework is simply more work & more thinking required!! And he does not want to give up his "quality slouch time" for it. I think this is what he is thinking... I mean, I have tried to calmly discuss it with him but usually end up with a torrent of verbal abuse!!

I did ask him what he wanted to do when he grows up but he has no idea yet. That may explain the lack of motivation!!

It is quickly becoming an issue now. If he refuses to go into school tomorrow, I just don't know what to do. I am reluctant to get the school involved but I am running out of options.

What I would really like to know is whether he is behaving like a typical teen or is there something deeper that may require counselling??

From what I've read from other posters on this thread, it does feel like teen symptoms. If so, god help me!!!

Herrerarerra · 20/01/2016 01:00

Hi, I'm going to join you all if you don't mind Flowers

I have two teenage sons. One is 18 and the other is 15. My 15 year old has GCSEs this year and it's a struggle to get him to focus on his school work. He's turned a corner from last year though and at least he's now doing some.

The 18 year old is driving me crazy though. Those of you with boys, are they bad at communicating? I mean by phone or email? He's away at uni, although his uni is less than 10 miles away but he wanted the whole experience. Fair enough, it's doing him good as he's never really been one to mix and he's made a lot of really nice friends from his halls. Anyway, occasionally we - either my husband or myself - will text or email him if we need to ask him something, or just to say hi how are you. He never fucking replies. Unless he wants something that is. Take this week for instance, I texted him to let him know that one of his favourite bands are playing near our home. Me and his Dad will hopefully be getting tickets and it crossed my mind to treat him too but nearly 48 hours later he's not replied. I texted him a week ago to ask what time he was working on Sunday (that is, Sunday last weekend now) as he'd probably need a lift back to the halls afterwards as there are no buses after a certain time. No reply.

It's so fucking ignorant and rude of him. It's not as if we're bombarding him with messages, just a few each week, but he chooses to ignore them and I know he's the same with his girlfriend as she resorts to sending messages to me or my husband to ask him to contact her or simply read his texts if she knows he's with us. His phone contract is in my name and we're paying it while he's at uni, we said we'd do that so that he'd have a way of keeping in touch. I have his bank details and half of me wants to change the payment details but then the contract is in my name and if he defaults then it'll affect me.

AvengingGerbil · 20/01/2016 09:04

biker, my DS has rigid mental boundaries between work and school, which mean he refuses to do any work at home. He does it in the lunch hour, and stays after classes finish in the afternoon to get it done, and then home is pure slouch time. Would that be possible for your DS?

stablemabel · 20/01/2016 16:17

I am reluctant to get the school involved but I am running out of options. Biker if he is refusing to go to school because of the school rules i.e. the homework, then I don't think you have much choice.

Someone (senior) there needs to sit him down for a good chat about homework, he needs to see it as a POSITIVE thing not a negative thing, which he is obviously doing at the moment, that would be a good start. I take the approach of 'ok once you've put the effort in and got the work done your slobbing out time seems more enjoyable, you've earnt it, if you do nothing but slob out you don't notice it' (does that make sense?)

stablemabel · 20/01/2016 16:23

Hi Herr, hmm this sounds pretty typical and my DS 16 yr is not great at communicating (the spoken variety as he is still at home). I believe my niece has been similar to this with my bro and dsil since she went to uni. They find mates and hey ho they suddenly don't need you....until they need you.

I think he has found independence, to him that's what it is but to you it just seems hurtful and rude. Obviously it is hurtful and rude and a quiet word might be needed just to say this is how you feel. Just ask him how he feels when he is trying to communicate with someone and he is ignored, I doubt it makes him feel great. But he might not realise all this until someone spells it out.

BikerDad177 · 20/01/2016 19:12

hi guys. Thanks for all the advice.

First off, apologies for the size of this post.

As I had feared, he refused to go into school today. So I rang up the head of his year and told her the truth. She was sympathetic & listened supportively which helped me a lot coz I was feeling very exasperated by that time.

Later, when I finally told him that I had spoken to his head of year, he basically flipped out on me!! Lots of cursing & "Oh no, now the whole school will know what I am like!" & "they will keep on checking up on me all the time. You've had it!"... followed by "I'm not going to school anymore. I quit!" & "you've really done it this time! you've ruined my life!", etc. etc. intermittently interspersed with the most foul language known to humankind!!

Under normal circumstances, in that scenario, I would also have flipped out & we would have ended up having a massive argument he would be simultaneously destroying the furniture/walls/utensils/house, etc. But fortunately for me, I scoured the internet late last night for some teen advice & came across this clip on YouTube:

And it really saved me/us. Might not work on every child but I include the link in case it might help some of us on this very difficult journey.

Throughout his angry outbursts, I remained calm & explained to him why I had little choice but to talk to the school and that it will be awful if this issue ends up tarnishing his reputation at school. That I really love/cared for him & wanted him to be happy. Then I asked him about school & his friends, while all the time trying to remain calm (which was incredibly hard coz all I wanted to do right then was to grab him by shoulders & shout,"Pull yourself together, boy, and stop behaving like this a spoilt brat!"). Instead I tried to apply the technique of mirroring as prescribed in that youtube clip together with some ruthless compassion.

And surprise, surprise, it worked. He slowly opened up to me & we ended up having a proper conversation about school life... And the furniture was still intact!! I couldn't believe how keen he was to tell me all about his life at school. We talked properly for at least an hour which was amazing in itself coz usually most times all I ever get from him is a monosyllabic grunt in response to most of my enquiries!! I can't remember the last time I ever had a "proper decent conversation" with my child!!

He finally admitted to me that homework was an issue for him. That he couldn't be bothered to do it because it took up too much of his "quality time" at home!! I chuckled inside myself upon hearing this. I never knew he saw

it that way. So we negotiated & agreed to spend an hour of undivided attention each evening straight after school to get his homework out of the way. It remains to be seen if this will last!! My fingers are tightly crossed.

So far, so good. He's done all his homework for tomorow so now he has my permission to vegetate during his "quality time"!! :)

Later this evening there was an incident which could have escalated into an all-out war except I found myself handling it differently. He was getting frustrated, angry & vocal about a game he was playing on the computer.
What normally happens in this situation is that I would get annoyed & go to him & tell him to stop playing or else or I might say it's only a game & not to get worked up about it. This usually infuriates him more & makes
matter worse so no one wins in the end. But instead, I went to him & sat with him & praised him for doing so well getting this far in the game and agreed with him how frustrating these games can be. The end result of this mirroring was that he ended up showing me, in a mature way, what he was trying to achieve & willingly sharing his frustration with me. In the end he told me to help him find out on the internet how to find the last clue in the game. I did this & averted what could have been another stressed out incident at home. It is true that this technique does feel very counter-intuitive but it is unbelievable how quick & effective it is!!

I cannot believe how chatty he is tonight. Frequently coming into the kitchen to chat & joke with me. It is like he is now feeling this connection with me all over again. As to how long this grace period will last, I honestly do not know. But I am guessing much of it will depend on me & how long I can maintain this connection with him by relating to him in the proper manner. I am only human.

I know some parents are instinctively wonderful at relating to their kids & I take my hat off to them. Sadly for me, I was never given a handbook on how to deal with these strange alien creatures!!

My journey is only just beginning.
Best of luck to those of us still on this journey.

singlemom2016 · 21/01/2016 05:07

My 12 year old daughter said she was going to her friends house that she goes to every day. I no girls parents so I don't have a problem with her going over there. But today she lied and I had to track her down. I called her girlfriends dad and he found her and took me to get her. I found her with high school boys house with lots of boys. Has anyone else had a issue like this yet? I'm a single mom of three girls. I need advice on how to handle this.

BitchyHen · 21/01/2016 05:50

Hi, any advice? My 15 yo ds is refusing to go to school. I'm sure he has ASD but is undiagnosed (not sure how to get a diagnosis.) His old school was amalgamated with ban other in a new building. With stricter rules, new staff and students to get used to and he's not coping. The refusals are getting worse. Last night I chatted to him again and he says he can't go to school as he's got no motivation to go. I don't know what I can do tohelp him.
He also has the typical ASD rage meltdowns where he shouts, swears and smashes things. There are holes in walls all over the house.
I'm a lone parent of three teenagers. He's the middle one, and the only boy, the girls are a doddle compared to him. The irony is that I work with teenagers who I have been excluded from school and yet I can't cope with my own.

singlemom2016 · 21/01/2016 06:33

I'm getting overwhelmed with my 12 year old daughter with boys, language and her behavior. I grounded her and took all electronics away from her. But I haven't talked to her about lying to me about where she was going. I found her with high school boys with no adult supervision around 7:30 tonight. I allowed her to have a boyfriend last year her own age. Myself and his parents communicated frequently. Most importantly she knows she can talk to me about boys. Right now I'm just trying to figure out the best way to take action before it's too late. Let me know if I'm using this right I just found this site tonight. Thanks

BikerDad177 · 21/01/2016 14:46

I am reluctant to put medical labels on my kids, whether it be ADD, ADHD or ODD, or whatever. From my own personal experience with my kids I have observed that the aggressive or destructive behaviours tend to come from their own inner frustrations - which they are only willing to reveal to me if we still have a strong bond together. So my child's frustration most frequently escalates to aggression. Sometimes it is plain boredom & sometimes it is the inability to rectify a situation or a problem. And as a parent I always seem to end up handling it the wrong way such as belittling their issues or talk in a condescending way. I can see now that my own handling of the situation has probably created more detachments rather than helping! Life sucks that way.