WWW's 10 year younger bootcamp, Oct 08, all welcome

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Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

Marina, lol at your dh and coarse fishing bait. Sorry the tripto stuff didn't work, we're all knackered enough, surely, without needing anything to make us sleepier than usual!

Ts, sorry you're worried about ds, I hope everyone's words have been reassuring.

FIS, glad your insides have sorted themselves.

I have had a very tough week. What passes for my family (2 sisters and my mum, my lovely dad is dead, sadly) chose this week to tell me what they think of me and let's just say that what they think is hurtful and horrible and (imo, obv) unkind and unfair. I temporarily stopped posting as I don't know if they read mumsnet and I don't want them to read anything I post as I don't want them involved in any aspect of my life (and have told them so, can't think my life will be anything other than nicer without them in it) but the pull of this thread was too much so here I am.

So on top of the 11+ and ds's birthday and dh being on a course (meaning I had to pick up childcare/domestic stuff that we normally share), it's been a tough, tough week. But I am pleased with myself, I didn't drink all week and I walked on several days including 6 miles yesterday and nearly 5 miles today, alone in the drizzle and the wonderful countryside around us, it's been lovely, very therapeutic and cheering. And lots of people who know me well have been very kind to me and agreed that bitch sisters are a) out of order and b) bitches and it's helped.

Also, I had an interview on Friday which I am hopeful about, it's six months work so I wouldn't get my 2 months off but it would give us a nice cash cushion and I could probably take a month or two off next summer plus it would mean we could afford a great holiday next year, which we all need tbh. And maybe a weekend in swanky hotel with dh for my birthday

Sorry, that's enough moaning from me. On the food front I have eaten party food (choc spread sandwiches, jammie dodgers, pink wafers,) and lovely Chinese meal last night with dh, ds, dd, ex dh and me for ds's birthday, it was a lovely evening. And bacon sandwiches. And mucho Chablis and Pinot Grigio. Ex mil and sil are here today and are cooking chickpea and spinach curry for supper, yum! I will drink some wine I think as there's an open bottle in the fridge but then will be my usual abstemious self this week.

I hope everyone has a good week.

Hey www, swinging through at top speed as am having Weekend of Moving Doom (my sister, back into her flat after refurb), but just wanted to send good wishes. Sounds like a tough tough week. And so sorry your family are being hard work. Go for the wine (it's an order). And job stuff sounds encouraging

And bootcamping for me - swings and roundabouts - much lugging of things up and down stairs; much eating of sausage rolls. Plus I have a cold. And haven't washed since saturday morning. Hmmn. Suspect I am not exactly a vision of loveliness. Hey ho - off to make beef stew.

Hello, just marking the thread, will post properly later.

Hi www,

Why do people feel the need to tell other people "what they think of them"

As if any of it could ever be anything other than
A) an opinion, and therefore NOT "fact"
or
B) an attempt to get attention onto themselves

In any event, never necessary and never kind.

We went en famille to the cinema today to see The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas.
it made dd cry, definitely not a film for anyone who is younger than nearly 12. Very sobering, a brilliant film, should probably be compulsory viewing for the 12+

Year 8 at dd's school were taken to see it on a school outing.

Hello Issy. Welcome (back) Well done on the running - it you're looking for weight loss you need to go for a bit longer than 20 minutes. Try to work up to 40 minutes even if you have to cut back on the speed.

Eemie - moving house vibes heading your way.

Moonshine - well done on your run. 4 miles in 40 minutes is fab

www - poor you. Bloody families. Nice to have you back. Hope the job works out, even if you do have to forgoe the two months off. Some time off in the summer will be something to look forward too.

Things not so bad here; except ds1 has lost the plot with his finances again. I really shouldn't have to be confiscatinh his card and drip feeding him his wages every week should I? Mind you, I pretty much have to do that with dh so I can see where this spending genes come from I do have to give dh some credit though today as he's spent most of it with his arm up to the elbow in sewerage and has finally sorted the drain problem. He cooked dinner too - obviously after much washing of hands with industrial strength disinfectant.

dd was fab during her MRI - 1 hour 50 she only panicked the once and managed to control it before they had to pull her out. Three week wait for the results now

Hello everyone.

WWW, sympathies for your horrid week and hope things pick up soon. Job sounds encouraging and the thought of a good holiday is always invigorating. Be kind to yourself over the next few days - sounds like you have a lot on. Hope DS is through the 11+ experience unscathed.

Saggars - sorry about the £££. It's not a forte in this house either. Fingers crossed for DD's MRI results.

L&S - your weekend sounds exhausting. Sausage rolls and lard generally always good at this time I find.

Hope everyone else is well.

Still a bit dodgy of tum, but farking enormous of bump still. Got 6 weeks at work left and am counting the days. DD2 very easy but still upset and poorly after MMR nearly 3 weeks ago. DD1 being a nightmare in the way that only 3 year olds know how. DH hardly ever here as always at work. Am comfort eating my way out, but good on exercise and handcream.

Hope we all have a good week .

Not in the league of others, but I've had a rather stressful week with the boys (DH on shift every evening which didn't help) ending up in a mini-meltdown (by me) today, and silly eating tonight but can I add a little bit of light relief:

yesterday we attended a service for pets at the church. DS3 was soooo excited to be able to take Craig . The vicar - unbeknown to us - has a fear of rodenty type pets and DS3 unwittingly sat closest to him, which filled the vicar's wife with mirth. Then as the first hymn was being sung, my friend's dog started howling so much that I was helpless with laughter, tears streaming, shoulders shaking, the works.

In addition to all this was the dear lady who bought a toy squirrel along - as a symbol for all squirrels, and she took it to be blessed amongst the real furballs. It was rather sweet, but we did wonder why she was sat there with a cuddly toy (the pet-blessing was right at the end of the service).

hello all - I am a bit embarrassed to show my (un-sunscreened) face in here as I have been so fickle in my attendance!

Sorry everyone whgo is having a bit of a tough time...WWW your family sound like a cosy bunch - what brought all that on? But your relationship with exdh and ILs is very enviable - thank heavens for some friendly female family companionship, eh?

I have had a pretty awful week, really. Underpinned by a nasty cold - has anyone escaped the nasty cold? Nights at work, nights broken with DS waking in discomfort, nights broken by me panicking that he has scepticaemia as he has had a temperature for 3 days and have foolishly googled 'pin-site-infections', and had nightmares every time I dropped off last night. The dark circles under my eyes are now sunken trenches, and on Friday I got in late from work and realised that I had not eaten a proper meal - nor even nutritious snacks - all day, but had subsisted on huge slabs of cake (Konditor and Cook - so GOOD cake), crisps, a moscow mule and some brie.

It's got to change. I will not last until DS's fixator comes off if I carry on like this. It's the hardest time to find any corner for myself, but the most crucial. I need someone to be tough with me - please tell me to get a gripand apply some self-dicscipline and find time t walk / go to gym.

Bumped into Bossykate at a local event on Saturday, and had a chat and catch up - that was nice.

What kind of week does everyone have ahead? It's POURING with rain here - total pathetic fallacy - which reminds me - I cannot bear to watch Tess of the d'Urbervilles tonight, too depressing.

Off back to the old thread to catch up on what the 11 plus experiences have been.....

Thinking of everyone.

I am giggling like mad at the stuffd squirrel being blessed

L&S, good luck with the move, is this you and ds moving in with your sister? I hope it goes well. Now Go and SHOWER!

Cam, thank you for those thoughts. I haven't heard of that film but will look it up.

Oh Saggars, poor love with her MRI, bless her, well done her. And grr at ds and his fiscal ineptitude! Eww at sewage/cooking dinner combo though...

Chutneymary, anything we can help with on the 3yo front? tough age imo. 6 weeks isn't long, hang in there

ureb, sorry to hear of meltdown, I read a Grumpy Old Woman book a while ago and there was a bit that made me laugh about wanting to throw oneself on the floor like a toddler and wail 'it's NOT FAIR, WAAAH' lol at squirrel, ha ha

Blu, right, I reckon you need to prioritise you. It's so easy to slip down the list (said she, sounding like shite womens mag) but honestly, I have found this week that it REALLY helped to think about what would make ME feel better. Dh said "stop putting so much pressure on yourself" and so I did on some things, eg on my days at home I often end up doing LOADS of chores which means I get less work done and then panic about that etc etc and it becomes a vicious circle. Can you think about planning meals ahead this week so you at least know what you're going to eat and when? And stop googling stuff, I order you to stop! Is there any walking you can fit in, eg on the way to / from work? I am finding it's helping me ENORMOUSLY, I'd forgotten how much better it makes me feel tbh and now I've remembered it and have been doing it I must keep it up. Can you get up a bit earlier or finish work a bit earlier to walk part of the way home or something? Or can you use your lunch hour? Last year I managed to do half an hour every lunch time for ages and that helped. And I alway srecommend these but if you just need to get trhrough the week Benelyn day and night tableyts are fab and just keep you going at work and by the time you've taken them all your cold is over and you've got through it. Or can you just take to your bed for a bit to get better? Hope there's something in there that helped, consider yourself bossed!

Sympathies all round for crap families, disturbed sleep, nasty colds, moving house and anything I've forgotten. Thank goodness it's a new week.

ureb - arf @ toy squirrel. Classic. I once attended a pet service that was held in a little paddock behind the rectory (on account of it being horse & farming country and cowpats in church would cause mayhem). I went on my horse and he let out the most enormous fart that went on and on and completely drowned out the poor vicar. Fortunately it was a very bawdy crowd in that morning!

Lots of swimming this week but no running. Food quite good and water very good. Have moisturised everything lots and lots but winter dryness is creeping in - my hands are awful. My feet are now permanently in socks & boots so naturally I'm neglecting them.

Here's to a better week.

Thanks very much for the vibes everyone. Have done some straight talking with dh and got a few things off my chest. We'll be dropping the price on our old house again tomorrow (third time lucky?).

Rented house becoming a bit more like home and dd has had her first lot of Bromley nits (is that like naturalisation?).

Dd thrilled that her beloved babysitter and two kids came to spend the day. Guests make the place feel more like a home. I cooked successfully in new kitchen (as opposed to just heating stuff up/boiling veg).

And Her Puppyship is definitely a lot better.

Fingers crossed re scan for smbk - well done to your dd for tolerating MRI, the noise is like road works.

Www, what gives? Sorry to hear your news. I dread to think what I'd do if my Mum and two sisters weren't on my side. But then you were one of the people who comforted me about dd being an only child, weren't you? On the grounds that friends can be just as much family as relatives, or more so in many cases (like my dh's).

Sorry if I'm incoherent - need to go to bed.

Good wishes to all for Monday

www so sorry to hear about your family stuff, xxx

WWW - thank you.

You are right, and walking WILL make me feel better - it's about forcing ourselves onto the escalator - rather than spiralling down.

It's moderately sunny so I will be having a proper lunch hour and walking to a really nice sandwich bar rather than the nearest sordid caff.

It's sunny! (in London, anyway) let's WALK!

blu, hadn't read all of your post - agree totally re: pathetic fallacy, I always think of Tess too!

sorry about boyblu's troubles - it's been such a slog for you all, I really feel for you and wish there was something we could do for you (though moscow mules, brie and konditor/cook sounds like a start )

Hello everyone, have woken up from my serotonin-induced coma now. Anyone want a hardly used bottle of Solgar 5-LTP? Don't all rush at once.
In brief as busy at work and on all fronts really - walking, need to do more, happiness ditto, alcohol, very modest, eating, could do better.
Am under a mushroom cloud of worry for a third party at the mo and a difficult and upsetting situation over which I have no control whatsoever is preoccupying me a little
But good to read everyone's news and hear of happy times (awww, kitties), evil families vanquished, successful MRIs, puppy miracle comebacks etc
As well as those of us trudging through life a little right now
As Mandy "Flash Gordon", Savour of the Universe would have us all singing, Things Can Only Get Better. Can't they?

am in love with batters' kittens even though I haven't seen them!

sorry to hear you're having a tough one, marina, does this bring a smile to your face??

WWW - glad you couldn't resist the urge of bootcamp - your family sounds a little mad, if you don't mind me saying. I decided a long time ago that there are certain members of mine I will not pander to save for polite occasional contact and my life has been no poorer.

Marina - thanks for info on the frankly faintly terrifying sounding supplement. I will stick to my Magnesium ok/eps combo for the moment methinks.

Saggars - nearly 2 hours for an MRI . My friend told me she felt claustrophic after 10 mins so your dd was a star. And my good run seems to have been the exception rather than the norm - I shall see if I can struggle through 3 miles tomorrow morning.

Lol at Squirrel but I would have had to bite my lip - the squirrels are arch destroyers in my garden (and have destroyed 10 beautiful sunflowers amongst other things this summer) and I would gladly shoot them all.

Oh lordy but the last episode of Tess was too turgid for me.

Dh not contrite even having lost 2 house keys and waking me up at 1am, drunk as the proverbial, spending all our money on booze, his mate ringing me early Sunday morning in drunken confusion and scaring me to death and not communicating with one single phone call to offer info/help/speak to dcs etc in the 2 days he was away. And he wonders why I am being frosty?

But have now had hair cut and grey covered and so feel more human and am enjoying wearing knee-length skirts because it is boot weather!

Good luck for the week all.

And Marina, I didn't mean to sound so callous or smug re the supplements - I'm sorry you are having such a tough time atm. Hope the cloud dissipates soon.

The siren call of you lot has become too much for me too - I've been off attempting to have a life, having realised that I was spending far too much time here and not necessarily getting anything good out of it. Not that I'm getting much out of RL atm either. Then I encountered a problem with dd, and realised that mumsnet was the place to go (though my thread has been ignored so I'll be going for shameless bumps later) and got tempted back here.

Bootcamp wise I haven't been too bad- though anything less than really good makes me feel crap about myself. I'm just hanging onto the fact that in 14 days I will be free of the pre-school, and so in the very enviable position of not actually having any outside responsibilities - I even said no to helping regularly in Reception - Pre-school has been a thankless, practically fulltime job (and I know many of you have full time jobs and still do all the things I do, but you aren't - apart from maybe www - quite so hard on yourself when you fail to do everything perfectly as I am) so I'm looking forward to having just a few months of nothing extra to attempt to get my head back in order.

I'm very sorry to come back and find so many of you suffering. I do think this is quite the worst time of year - I love cold and autumn leaves and warming stews and wood fires and walks in the woods wrapped up in scarves, but it takes a while to adjust ones mindset into appreciating cosiness.

Thank you for the e-mails as well. It reminded me that this might be a virtual world, but there is crossover into the real one.

pru - I've just stood down as pre-sch Chair and it's feels bloody marvellous! 3 years in the job was 2 years too long. I am already noticing how much more time I'm spending with DD2, who previously would get packed off to watch CBeebies whilst I did pre-sch work. Nice to see you back btw!

Eemie, I hope your house sells and glad you got some stuff off your chest. I went and looked up that old thread last night and I was actually about 2 minutes pregnant with dd when I posted it I think! But didn't know it

Bundle, thank you my love x to you too!

Batters, I am INORDINATELY ious of your kittens, how LOVELY, I want some but dh keeps saying nfw as he knows he will end up looking after them. How lovely, and lol at your dh looking after them!

Oh Marina, sorry to hear of worries. I thought of you today as I was reading Woman & Home as there was an article about natural ways of managing depression and anxiety, I'll see if it's on their site in a minute and will link to it if so.

Moonshine, yes, bet you are enjoying the weather, I LOVE it, really feel uplifted by all the drizzle and wind and rain. Thanks, yes, they are vair strange. Never mind, I have a counselling appt for next week so will work out how to deal with it I hope in the coming weeks.

Prufrock! We've been wondering where you were! Welcome back. Gosh, do you think I'm hard on myself? Oh how lovely to have no pre-school responsibilities. Enjoy! And welcome back to bootcamp.