WWW's 10 year younger bootcamp, Oct 08, all welcome

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Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

I would log achievements, but there haven't been many,and I'm not logging all my weekend misdemeanours. I did go swimming, though as I only managed one length (and that was accompanying dd, who swam 25m front crawl with me, despite struggling to do 5m in her lessons - but it was a huge confidence boost for her) I don't think I can count it as exercise.

But I went to the gym this am for 30 minutes, and did a long dog walk (listening to the news quiz podcast - fellow walkers must have thought I was mad as I kept laughing) and spent an hour in the garden sowing my green manures.

Fab list Pru. I think I'll take some of those tips on board.

Doc looked up my nose and shook his head. Not sure what's going on so have to have a blood test tomorrow to check on my clotting and have a prescription for a steroid nasal spray. I'm hoping it's not a precursor to it bleeding excessively very suddenly - this happened in my teens and I ended up in A&E for 4 hours with a tampon stuffed up my nostril shock]

On the up side my BP is a fabbo 120/70.

Good luck with the job hunting batters.

Hey Pru, that really is a good and useful list - thanks for posting. I would add 'making lists' to that - a balm for anxiety. And batters, am v much in agreement v herbal tea (though as we all know in our heart of hearts, chamomile is the devil's drink - I go for peppermint instead ). Cup last thing at night is the way to restful sleep (6mo DS is the way to rest-free early mornings, but that's a whole other thing). And bad luck on needing to move jobs ... you're in broadcasting, yes? A growth market, at least, with all the podcasting these days (the Guardian, my own parish, is doing loads of it) (they're even making me do it, which is terrifying - I have a voice for print ).

Decent day's bootcamping. Lots of walking, two lunches but only ate at one (second was with newly-affianced friend, who spent the whole thing wailing 'DON'T call me engaged! I HATE that word!' which amused me deeply. She is splendid feminist who mistrusts the concept of weddings, but has been seduced by deep and abiding love for, and desire to be married to, her swain. All v heartwarming ). About to go and cook plaice for DS's lunch tomorrow and spanish omelette for me to use up leftovers. Minor crisis: just realised I have no tomato ketchup in the house. Spanish omelette without tomato ketchup is barely worth eating (omelette merely a carrier for the ketchup, in all honesty). Perhaps there is mayonnaise?

Hello all and sorry to hear of L&S's panic attack too and of Batters search for ft work and Saggars nose.

Today

walked 2 miles, it was lovely
chorizo and some cheese for breakfast
spinach salad with tuna, anchovies, tomatoes, vinaigrette
chicken wrapped in proscuitto with green beans and peas
no wine
plenty of water

and going to bed soon, feel knackered

Adding sympathy for ts's panic attack - had lots when I was learning to drive. Knowing what they are is more than half the battle.

If they're happening at night would strongly suggest
getting up and going to a different room, reading to block the thoughts until you feel your eyelids droop, and

• only then going back to bed.

Must go and put dd to bed

Oh sympathies from me for the panic attacks, they sound scary.

And what the bejeezers has been happening on MN over the weekend . I have been trying to skim read several threads and have got a flavour of, it seems, personal rl threats, trolls and the hunting of, and much sharpening of pitchforks.

And I was feeling ok but dh has just informed me before disappearing sharpish that he is thinking of volunteering to work over Christmas (that includes Xmas Eve, Xmas Day and god knows what other days) under some misguided loyalty to his work (as opposed to his family ). I am speechless with rage.

The world has gone mad - please someone tell me it is a full moon.

It IS a full moon, tomorrow.

How annoying Moonshine, I'd be cross too. HUGE amounts of cash and TOIL, maybe, if you really needed the money but loyalty? Nah.

Sympathy TS, L&S and Saggars, and Batters I hope dd is better.

I'd be cross too Moonshine. DH has had to work over Christmas/New Year before now, had no choice, but I'd go maaaad at him if he chose to work them.

Great news about the job Arfishy.

Am loving No 8 on Claudia's list...if I heeded that I'd never eat!

Am very at 120/70 saggars. The only time my BP has ever been that low (and lower) was when I had an epi (prior to the section with DS3) and I felt sooooo ill.

Had been doing ok, generally, until I spotted the Silent Assassin (diabetes) posters whilst out and about over the weekend. Am now feeling vulnerable and quite low, and they've not helped my anxiety levels at all.

Dh took dog out last night just as I was going up to bed. A whiff of chill air made me go back down and check. He'd left the back door wide open and set off round the block.

When he came back I ranted a bit but he was impervious. Didn't seem concerned, just annoyed at the rant. Nothing to say.

In the last month he's several times left back door unlocked, front door open (not just unlocked, open) and once left his keys in front door (on the outside, that is) all night.

The burglary seems to have made no impression on him. The only thing of his stolen was his watch (which was a spare - I bought it for him when he lost the one I gave him as a wedding present, then I found the 'lost' one) and his mobile, which I replaced the next day and which he rarely uses anyway.

Aaargh .

Walking +++
Healthy eating ++
No alcohol
Sun screen +++
Early night, but no or little sleep (mutter, mutter, seethe)
Water, weak tea ++

Keep typing regrettable things then deleting them. Better get away from the keyboard...

Oh eemie I'd be irate too. Letting in the cold air is bad enough but such poor security so soon after your burglary? Gah!

I did swim yesterday afternoon, quite a few lengths too. Have been heavy on moisturiser use. Water & food good. Bed before midnight.

DD1 is home with tummy bug today and DH is in town tomorrow so dog walking is the only exercise I'm going to get. New resolve scuppered after one day.

Eemie, how infuriating, I'd be cross too.

Ureb, sorry to hear of anxiety but those posters are aimed at people who aren't diagnosed, and you are and are treating it. Sorry if that's not any consolation, sympathy anyway.

I am proud of myself, this morning I forgot to bring my sausages for breakfast to eat in the car so instead I bought a bacon baguette and THREW AWAY THE BAGUETTE. I had an internal wrestle with myself on the platform as I ate the bacon, the baguette looked so inviting but no, I resisted and threw it in the bin as soon as I got on the train.

But I look terrible, despite goign to bed at 10 last night - both children slept in with me and dh slept in ds's bed so I think I probably had a terrible night sleep. Ds was tearful though and tbh they needed some comfort, I think he is just exhausted after the past few months of 11+ effort. And he didn't only re take the 11+ yesterday, he had SATS too! And SATS again today. Poor love. Rightly or wrongly, I've told him I don't give a toss about the SATS.

On the job front have made it clear I will only go for testing IF they pay my full daily rate. And I think they will baulk at that but why should I be prepared to take the cost of it? I am hoping I don't get it tbh, it was HARD getting up this morning and I'm not sure I want another six months of the same. I am going to chase the MK job today though, that I DO want.

How is it ONLY Tuesday?

ureb - yes those posters are a bit of an eyeopener. dd commented on one yesterday.

moonshine - my dh is working over Christmas this year; Christmas Eve, Day, Boxing Day night too. He doesn't have a lot of choice and the extra cash will be a bonus. We're having pressie opening on the day and our dinner on Boxing Day. Enough of this Christmas talk though tis only October !

eemie - yes I'd be a tad annoyed. Grr.

Hope dd is better soon Norks.

Ureb - much sympathies but WWW is right, you/the professionals are dealing with your diabetes so you are hopefully in a much better place than not so long ago.

Eemie - my dh has left the key on the outside of the front door overnight more than once. Grrr.

WWW - I don't understand why you are considering going to an interview where you really don't sound as if you want it and it does not sound good for your work/home life balance. Do you feel obliged to keep your agency sweet?

Saggars - does your dh work alot over holiday periods? I have calmed down and shouldn't really complain about dh working but he has worked either Christmas or Christmas Eve or Boxing Day loads in the past and I kind of hoped we might have gone past that stage. I think he will volunteer to do a day or 2 in the holiday period to avoid the 'biggies'. But knowing our luck the Queen or another of similar status will die and he will be called into work (not to help bury her I hasten to add - he's a journo!).

I went to the gym but shouldn't have as have strained my leg and should be resting it but really don't want to lose the fitness levels I'm building up.

SIL was on a diet so we all decided not to drink on Sunday (I am weak willed and would have if everyone else had) so was partially saved from total bootcamp-collapse.

I really really need to 'up' my game for the next few weeks - I have a real sense atm of my youth slipping away and me still being on a diet and not being able to wear the clothes I want/have and getting to a New Year again and not having achieved any of my aims [drama queen emoticon].

okaaaayyy......it is ONLY Tuesday (as I think www said) BUT I am drinking wine.....reason being it was my last day at work today and my colleagues gave me 2 bottles of decent red wine, 3 bunches of tasteful flowers and a box of "nice" chocolates..and a card saying very nice things.

How lovely is that?

Pru is so right re the p/t work thing, its good for work/life balance but bad for stress/pay balance.

Batters, excellent decision re dd imo. My motto tends to be make the decision and then you will find a way for it to work
You never replied to my email of ages ago btw

Film we went to see was "Taken" Liam Neeson was very good, the film was rather rubbish but quite entertaining none the less. It was the only thing on nearby that wasn't a pg or U

I am intending to bootcamp like there's no tomorrow starting tomorrow.

Hope you're ok now Batters?

Sympathy with all the anxiety attacks here, it can creep up on you when you're not looking.

Hello all

not a bad day

bacon (sans baguette)
cheese, chorizo
half an avocado with some crab mixed with mayo
some nuts
and about to have char grilled veg (from a bag, alas but they're quite nice) and organic burgers

REALLY want a glass of wine but am currently resisting.

Moonshine I am SO with you on the weight thing, I don't want to get to Jan and tihnk oh fuckity fuck either.

re the job, my thoughts are like this:

Oooh, if I get a job we can build up a nice cash cushion and I can take half term off as it wouldn't be my last week of guaranteed pay and it's only 6 months and it would be good to get this experience in a recession (it's an area that does well in a recession) and THEN I could take some time off OR get a perm role nearer home and the director is v impressive woman who I would learn a lot from and we could go away to nice hotel sometime WITH children and I can get a cleaner again...

VS

Fuck it, I don't want to get up at 6am any more and I don't care if we have no cash cushion, I want to go to school plays and walk in the drizzle every day and be around and see more of my children and husband and have a calmer life but NO MONEY and maybe I'LL NEVER GET A JOB AGAIN, aaah, the lament of the contractor/interim. And the daily headlines of "LOADS OF PEOPLE OUT OF WORK" are making me think I should make hay while the sun shines, eg take an offer if it's there.

They've come back today and tried to get my day rate down to which I've said no, so it's probably not going to happen and it'll be option b for me. Which won't be a bad thing, as dh keeps saying, it's a win/win. Hmm, sort of!

Camm, that sounds lovely, how nice and too that you've finished.

Batters, ds is ok today, how's your lovely dd? Have you started job huntng?

I have read all of you but must go and kiss children, back later!

I am knackered from the unaccustomed activity of GOING TO WORK

However it has had the unusual side effect of me losing weight - or maybe that is down to my dh being away for 3 weeks and not cooking his delicious, but fattening meals.

WWW - take the time off - go on go on go on

This weird, people who were going to work, aren't
And people who weren't , are

Its all a bit "Times they are-a-changing"

I know you're all too young to remember Bob Dylan, but I'm not.......ok (Cam gives death stare)

yes Cam - I noticed that you were giving up, just as I was starting again after 5 long years at home

I kinda liked being Iota the Lazy Arse SAHM though on the WOHM v SAHM threads

www - hope your dilemma reaches a conclusion soon and I wish your DS a more peaceful week, poor thing.

moonshine - easy on that strained leg you fitness fraek! You don't want to make it worse and have to rest for months.

What a waste of a day. Went to library straight after school to take back DVD (which they charge immediate £3 overdue fee) but it was shut so they could have staff meeting. Tut! I wish I could shut my business down at whim so I could have leisurely breakfast staff meeting with DH. Then I had opticians at 11am but he'd rung in sick and they hadn't thought to tell me - it's a 12 mile round trip and involved emergency child cover due to DD1 being ill. Snarl at it all.

I did manage to walk the dog but not for very long. Food has been reasonable though I had cherry pie & cream for pudding. Lots and lots of water. Hands are looking good - Neals Yard Baby Balm, I've been doing Archies dry face & cradle cap and it's done my hands the world of good! So I do recommend it but at £9 a pot you could get something for grown-ups!

The posters are indeed aimed at those who are undiagnosed, but pre-diagnosis I don't think I would have batted an eyelid at them, especially as I was asymptomatic (albeit being the typical "type").

I'm dreading the boys noticing them.

Part-time works for me/us in our circumstances (thank fk I'm not working full-time at the moment). There is a full-time job going at work, same grade, different location. I considered it for a nano-second, but tbh it just wouldn't be worth it.

Bootcamp ok, if morose. DH has had a particularly heavy few shifts, and I'm being rather ditzy (more so than usual, lol) which I think is the medication.

Oh and talking about lax DHs - mine, you know that copper of 29 1/2 years - left my car unlocked yesterday (he drove home and I walked) with the saxaphone, my workbag, plus my handbag etc all left in there).

And he forgot to pick DS3 up from a neighbour this afternoon, fgs.

lol at your security conscious dh ureb. You should see mine (experienced firefighter) at a bonfire party. Would make your hair curl. Nuff said.

Moonshine - don't start me on dh and work As far as Christmas goes it's the luck of the draw tbh but he has this knack of swapping shifts with colleagues to make life easier for them; but without thinking about the wider impact on the family

I was hoping to never have to return to full-time work but as the dc's uni funds have disappeared into the black hole of the credit crunch I may have to rethink that one.