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I’m broke, what can take the place of Botox?

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FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 27/06/2026 21:07

I’ve been getting my 11s, forehead, and crows feet done for about 3/4 years, usually every 7-8 months.

But now I’m broke, and my crows feet in particular are beginning to bother me, and my left eyelid feels a bit droopy and uncomfortable.

Is there anything that remotely compares? I can’t use tret, i have eczema and my skin can’t take it.

Does anyone have any ideas? Please?

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Toveylove · 28/06/2026 16:29

Omg. The tedium. The intrusive irrelevant tedium. Stop preaching.

Honeyhonay · 28/06/2026 16:31

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Women are free to make whatever choices they want. You hold no higher value than someone who chooses to use Botox, dye their hair or wear makeup.
You are judgmental and narrow minded. You don’t care about women and girls, you care about controlling them.

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 16:37

Honeyhonay · 28/06/2026 16:31

Women are free to make whatever choices they want. You hold no higher value than someone who chooses to use Botox, dye their hair or wear makeup.
You are judgmental and narrow minded. You don’t care about women and girls, you care about controlling them.

I disagree. I am speaking up against a society that has controlled women and girls for decades by attributing too much value to their physical appearance and youth. The only reason women choose to inject Botox into their faces is because they have been brainwashed by society into believing looks and youth are valued highly. I want to set women free.

Honeyhonay · 28/06/2026 16:38

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 16:37

I disagree. I am speaking up against a society that has controlled women and girls for decades by attributing too much value to their physical appearance and youth. The only reason women choose to inject Botox into their faces is because they have been brainwashed by society into believing looks and youth are valued highly. I want to set women free.

Dictating what women can and can’t do isn’t setting them free. Control your own life and avoid telling adult women what they should do ✌️

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 16:40

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 16:13

That’s EXACTLY my point. It’s become normalised because many women are doing it and it’s plastered across social media as a result. Every woman, of all ages, needs to stop promoting it. Whether via social media or directly to friends and family they know or live with.

No woman NEEDS to do anything 🙄

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AwwShucksOhWell · 28/06/2026 16:41

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 16:18

Haha @AwwShucksOhWell maybe I will pretend to be 56 instead 🤣

My grandma's wonderfully eccentric friend advised it when I was in my early teens and I never forgot it!

She was old money rich and batty in the most lovely way, so really did live her life exactly as she chose. She surprised many people by dying in her 70s. Most people thought she'd been 70 quite some time ago... 😂She also taught me how to make mess look tidy without the need to actually tidy it up. Brilliant woman.

Wishing you well with your new life OP. I hope you find a solution that works for you, even if you don't go with my more unusual method.

bafta16 · 28/06/2026 16:44

lovecotswoldsliving · 28/06/2026 16:16

The best thing you can teach a daughter is to think for herself, be her own person and do what she feels is right for her.
i have just had my first Botox at 60.
it made me look fresher and I haven’t told my daughters! This is about me and no one else.

Was thinking of giving it a whirl at 70.

BrentfordForever · 28/06/2026 16:47

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 16:40

No woman NEEDS to do anything 🙄

@FloodlightsOnTheSquare I love your thread but I also LOOOOVE your commentary to weirdest responses ever!!!!

I’m 50, look much younger and I swear by
-face exercices (EVA Frazer’s main ones) plus 2 accounts I follow on YouTube
-cheap mouth device (facial flex)
-kinesiology tape

I do Botox for my 11s but not as often anymore due to the above

Roughly where do you live? There is an academy in Hounslow that need models for Botox training … you still pay but much much less

xx

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 16:50

Honeyhonay · 28/06/2026 16:38

Dictating what women can and can’t do isn’t setting them free. Control your own life and avoid telling adult women what they should do ✌️

I can’t control the society I live in when it relentlessly promotes the idea that I have less value if 1. I am older with some wrinkles 2. I am not beautiful. Many people campaign for change on issues they feel are damaging to a section of society. There is freedom of speech in this country. When I am subjected to constant social media reels, advertisements, tv ads, telling me to improve my looks with Botox, I have as much right to speak up against it, as the people who actively promote it and shove it down my throat when I didn’t ask for it. So I can’t ’control my own life’ in terms of the pressure from society to bend and adhere to the expectation of eternal youth and beauty. Society makes sure I am reminded of my lack of value every day through the aforementioned channels. So I have as much right to speak up as the people lecturing me to improve myself by getting Botox.

lightreflectingonwater · 28/06/2026 16:55

Toveylove · 28/06/2026 16:29

Omg. The tedium. The intrusive irrelevant tedium. Stop preaching.

Everyone is allowed to express opinions on here.

It's baffling how much people have normalised injecting shite into their faces

lightreflectingonwater · 28/06/2026 16:56

AwwShucksOhWell · 28/06/2026 16:41

My grandma's wonderfully eccentric friend advised it when I was in my early teens and I never forgot it!

She was old money rich and batty in the most lovely way, so really did live her life exactly as she chose. She surprised many people by dying in her 70s. Most people thought she'd been 70 quite some time ago... 😂She also taught me how to make mess look tidy without the need to actually tidy it up. Brilliant woman.

Wishing you well with your new life OP. I hope you find a solution that works for you, even if you don't go with my more unusual method.

She sounds fabulous Grin

BrentfordForever · 28/06/2026 16:59

lightreflectingonwater · 28/06/2026 16:55

Everyone is allowed to express opinions on here.

It's baffling how much people have normalised injecting shite into their faces

Yes as many as those normalising eating and drinking shite!

same or worse shite, different hole!

bafta16 · 28/06/2026 17:02

@lightreflectingonwater and/or taking weight loss drugs.

Gowlett · 28/06/2026 17:03

Get a fringe cut. Would one suit you?

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 17:07

BrentfordForever · 28/06/2026 16:59

Yes as many as those normalising eating and drinking shite!

same or worse shite, different hole!

But Botox and the pressure to remain looking younger is largely put on women, not men. I’m specifically talking about the WHY. Eating bad food has been normalised, but by as many men as women. And it is linked to health. There is a pressure to have Botox as a woman for the sole purpose to pretend to be younger than you are.

Honeyhonay · 28/06/2026 17:18

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 16:50

I can’t control the society I live in when it relentlessly promotes the idea that I have less value if 1. I am older with some wrinkles 2. I am not beautiful. Many people campaign for change on issues they feel are damaging to a section of society. There is freedom of speech in this country. When I am subjected to constant social media reels, advertisements, tv ads, telling me to improve my looks with Botox, I have as much right to speak up against it, as the people who actively promote it and shove it down my throat when I didn’t ask for it. So I can’t ’control my own life’ in terms of the pressure from society to bend and adhere to the expectation of eternal youth and beauty. Society makes sure I am reminded of my lack of value every day through the aforementioned channels. So I have as much right to speak up as the people lecturing me to improve myself by getting Botox.

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You’re not “speaking up” though, you’re specifically directing nasty comments at people due to their life choices for themselves.

BrentfordForever · 28/06/2026 17:26

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 17:07

But Botox and the pressure to remain looking younger is largely put on women, not men. I’m specifically talking about the WHY. Eating bad food has been normalised, but by as many men as women. And it is linked to health. There is a pressure to have Botox as a woman for the sole purpose to pretend to be younger than you are.

PPs called it either “shite” or “poison” hence my response

to your point yes ofc there is focus on looking good, not necessarily Botox though .. hence the million TikTok channels on face yoga and devices etc . Botox is a very small fraction to all these

and btw it’s not necessarily the pressure to look good, that’s not why OP or others do these stuff

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:32

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Oh good. How’s your efforts going?

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FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:34

BrentfordForever · 28/06/2026 16:47

@FloodlightsOnTheSquare I love your thread but I also LOOOOVE your commentary to weirdest responses ever!!!!

I’m 50, look much younger and I swear by
-face exercices (EVA Frazer’s main ones) plus 2 accounts I follow on YouTube
-cheap mouth device (facial flex)
-kinesiology tape

I do Botox for my 11s but not as often anymore due to the above

Roughly where do you live? There is an academy in Hounslow that need models for Botox training … you still pay but much much less

xx

Thank you so much. I will look into all of these things.

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Pennyfan · 28/06/2026 17:34

I’ll just say that I saw lots of women in late middle age and older in my job. It was seeing them which made me decide against injectables for myself. I think Botox looks fine on younger women-40s and early 50s as it still looks natural. Once you get above a certain age though, it looks really weird. No forehead movement and weird eyebrows which make you look ‘preserved’ rather than youthful. Especially combined with everything else. People don’t just look at your forehead. They look at all of you, so a smooth shiny forehead combined with an ageing body and face-and it happens to all of us- looks off.

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:35

lightreflectingonwater · 28/06/2026 16:55

Everyone is allowed to express opinions on here.

It's baffling how much people have normalised injecting shite into their faces

See, I think it’s baffling blundering into a thread about a specific topic to tell everyone they’re wrong and you’re better.

If you were with work colleagues or acquaintances you would likely be more polite in real life.

Guess it’s easy to be impolite when you’re anonymous 👍

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FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:36

Gowlett · 28/06/2026 17:03

Get a fringe cut. Would one suit you?

Noooo. Genuinely awful unfortunately. Never again 🤣

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corblimeygvnr · 28/06/2026 17:50

rapid3874greekyoghurt · 28/06/2026 17:07

But Botox and the pressure to remain looking younger is largely put on women, not men. I’m specifically talking about the WHY. Eating bad food has been normalised, but by as many men as women. And it is linked to health. There is a pressure to have Botox as a woman for the sole purpose to pretend to be younger than you are.

No it's not about pretending to be younger than you are! It's about being the best you can be for your age if you so choose that. Nobody is forced to dye their hair, wear make up etc but I prefer myself with it. My choice. I'm not saying what a wrinkly old bag you must look if you choose not to 🤷‍♀️ so live and let live.

lightreflectingonwater · 28/06/2026 17:51

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:35

See, I think it’s baffling blundering into a thread about a specific topic to tell everyone they’re wrong and you’re better.

If you were with work colleagues or acquaintances you would likely be more polite in real life.

Guess it’s easy to be impolite when you’re anonymous 👍

Indeed. In real life I keep quiet when I see people who have made a mess of their faces with Botox. That's why so many Botox users think they look amazing. Because people are too polite to tell them otherwise

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 28/06/2026 17:55

I don’t think I look amazing. I think I look a bit less tired.

The hyperbole when people argue against Botox is…just a bit silly.

Like I say, I had a tummy tuck - major plastic surgery - and not once on here has anyone judged it.

Guess I foolishly blasted the Botox siren though.

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