WWW's 10 year younger bootcamp, June 2008

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Hello everyone, well it's officially summer.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times - REALLY mean this now summer is here.

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

Marina

Had I forgotten, or never knew, that your ds and my dd1 were born just a year and a day apart? ie she's 8 tomorrow...

lol @ your dad/mum (even though it's not funny arf)

batters you don't need another mulberry bag

tomorrow producing phone in on diets etc - had chat with guest who says that
a) atkin-alike diets only work because they're cutting calories
b) slimey world/wheatwatchers still work best in long term
c) we really shouldn't beat ourselves up so much about food/weight

LOL Marina . The case is solved! You need to hot foot it straight back over to the thread.

ketosis = starvation mode, whether you are carb free or not

Nice to see such a busy thread!

Happy birthday to Bundle and Marina's dc's and I cannot believe Archie is a month old already.

What is the deal with the bull? I feel I've missed something vital. Much lol at biting horses and rabbits though. I was once dragged across the road by our dog but more interestingly our rabbit once ran away from the village with our cat. They were brought back by the milkman in the back of a Maxi.

Arfishy - glad the crime scene has revealed it's secret! Where do you go for your facials - I'm starting to compile my list of things to do in Sydney...

I wonder how Prufrocks new norks are??

Marina - hope the SS being involved with your dad helps the situation, despite your mothers protestations.

Well it's been a day of two halves for me bootcamp wise. As I suspected I started well on Monday, slipped a little yesterday with three smallish bottles of Coopers Pale Ale and then crashed not only into a raspberry and chocolate muffin with coffee this morning but a plum doughnut with lunch. Will be wailing with despair by Friday if all goes as usual. I will then spend the weekend promising myself I'll do better next week before the whole sorry cycle starts again.

however yesterday I walked 10k and did an exercise class and today I walked 17k and ran 5k so theoretically the cake/exercise balance should be restored.

Today I worked out that I have realistically eaten over 300 cakes whilst we've been in Oz. That just can't be good for you?

A light on my horizon is that the philosophers have been postponed - they have made plans to shuffle off elsewhere much in the style of a Monty Python animation. That should make for a drier Friday!

Bama - I go to Ella Bache. The treatment I have is 'The Revival'. It's amazing.

BUNDLE>>> la la la la not listening

(have been thinking about it since you posted it and am trying to banish it from my mind since this IS workng for me, sob, I think and I can't bear to think it's hocus pocus)

I missed the bull thing too, someone tell?

Feeling bored at work today
went to bed at 9.30 last night
woke at 5.30am but feel good

2 sausage and egg muffins
spinach salad, green beans, tuna, anchovies, quails eggs, cucumber, vinaigrette
salami
cheese
prob too much of the latter 2 as I thought I was staying at work til 6pm so packed more to compensate and mtg cancelled but have eaten it anyway.
Oh well

Batters, lol at dodgy women

Happy birthday to your ds Marina!

noooo

tis not hocus pocus

it's just you're not eating as much and if it's working, then that's great*

(i was quite surprised too, as i had previously thought there was some evidence for low carbs/high protein. Indeed the said GP's dh has lost 2 stone by doing this - fishing out filling from sandwich and chucking out the bread type stuff..)

There is a fair amount of evidence for low carb diets - Gary Taubes published a very well researched book on it last year (which I still have not read as it's very dry). It's called "Bad Calories Good Calories" I think in the US; not sure what the title is here.

Now that I've lost weight - although not as much as batters, she is my inspiration (mean that seriously not facetiously) - I'm more interested in these things. I count calories and do / feel best when it's lower carb. (When I say "I count calories" I don't mean it at the moment when I've just sampled a variety of lovely things from the new bakery.)

Am sorry to have not kept up with this thread and feel quite guilty about it. But wanted to ask when the program is on tomorrow - Bundle could you possibly email me the details? You can use [email protected] and I'll check it.

Happy Birthday to the 2 June children

Ds has so provoked normally v calm dh that he (dh) shouted very loudly and went outside. I poured him a large glass of cold (leftover) Chablis and didn't have any . Was v tempting, ds is being VILE.

He thumped me too (ds, not dh) and knows I am furious with him.

Having sirloin steak with black pepper and garlic butter with spinach for supper
dh having mash (also made by me, am verily a saint) on the side.

I REALLY REALLY FKING WANT A GLASS OF WINE. IT was a horrible thing to come in to.

Happy Birthdays to DCs
Boo to www's DS (DD1 is driving me mad atm)
wow to bama's exercise
at all these bull stories!

I had a long brisk walk with the dog this morning but forgot Omron - I'm completely out of the habit. I also shovelled a ton of ash from next to a collapsing wall and bunged it in the chicken pen instead - they seemed to like it. So exericse today is good.

Have eaten cereal, cheese scone, peach, raw carrots, cheese salad & breadsticks, apple, chicken in tarragon sauce, new pots & green beans. Another apple. Another raw carrot. Lots of water.

Moisturised face and used handcream but neglected everything else.

Ahem
I am drinking wine
it is lovely
this is the first time since May 5th I have broken my no drinking in week rule

ah anniemac, sympathy. Wheatgrass isn't bad honest, I had it in my fridge til 2 months ago. I am drinking lots of wine

• agree with bundle re the Atkins thing really being just reduced calories. There was a Horizon programme where they tried to test it. I think the summary was that more protein fills you up and keeps you feeling fuller longer therefore you just eat fewer calories after all. Transcript here There was another thing last week about eating large breakfasts (including carbs) being teh key to losing weight. here on BBC

I tried Atkins for a few weeks as an experiment about 5 years ago - felt horrible on it, never seemed to have anything fresh.

Sympathies Anniemac. A friend had a baby just a month ago via IVF. Positive vibes for you.

Sympathies also www. I know the boys have gone too far when DH shouts. (I'm afraid I'm a bit of a barker ).

Happy birthday minimrmarina, and minibundle.

Batters - the optician was concerned that it was early days yet (relatively speaking) and no one knew what the long-term effects might be. I also heard this from a gp (albeit third-hand.)

The bull, well...

Happy birthday little-marina-boy! Or not so little!

Www - enjoy the wine, definitely justified!

I have been rubbish today, not going to detail the day as will be too depressed. But have been looking at new chicken houses....and maybe a new chicken? So that's why (lame excuse I know).

Evening all - who let the incredibly slim and glamorous Tinker in pray
So sorry about ds again www, I can hear whiny yelps from downstairs as the bloody Wii is "set up" and am hiding. Year Six in the offing is hard on their equilibrium I think.
Lost half a pound this week, am a bit , but resolved to do better next week, and it is a loss.
Anniemac, I am so very sorry you had that bad news at the GP's today. Best of luck with the wheatgrass regimen - and have you been in touch with Foresight to check out their fertility screening programme?
Batters, I am sure some dodgy women will want to see that bag in action, excellent!
Good to see you back in ash-shovelling mode again duchess
Not much walking today, work work work, and cake and pasta for ds tonight. I had virtuous and pungent mackerel in tomato sauce and a carrier-bagful of watercress instead, yum. Lots of water though.
Hope dd1 has a lovely day tomorrow bundy and now we have DAB in the kitchen I am listening to more Radio 4.
Am still LOLing at bama's husband and how hacked off his local colleagues must get with "and Bruce here is charge of logical positivism" etc

A few years ago, a bull went on the rampage, having escaped from the abattoir. It eventually (after several hours) got cornered on Sainsbury's carpark, causing mayhem and damage. As well as wrecking several cars, it was threatening to ram one of the supermarket windows blah blah blah.

In conjunction with the abattoir, vets, RSPCA etc etc, it was agreed that the only way to solve the issue, without someone getting seriously hurt/killed, was to shoot it. DH was the officer in charge at the scene, iirc, and told them to shoot it.

DH had members of the public telling him - whilst trying to deal with the situation - that it was not right to kill it it.

Folk were rather upset about the situation.
They said the abattoir shouldn't be where it was (erm, the abattoir was there before the shops built up around it); it should be let go, oh yes of course - carnage in the city centre; sedate it rather than shoot it (erm, it had escaped from the abattoir, it was going to die anyway) blah blah blah.

There was quite a fuss at the time.

Well done Marina - it's still a loss.

• Sunscreen at all times yy
• No booze.
• 2 mile hike + twister.
• Lots of water - am positively waterlogged.
• Apply body cream - lax.
• Use hand cream - lax.
• Go to bed early, stupid o'clock.
• Eat healthily - excellent, until I devoured the fudge
• Be happy. The blardy computers went down on today, grrr.

DS2 is on the mend. He's running riot again, with a side sprinkling of venom because he's still not quite right, iykwim.

And DH has a late meeting with the Head and the Vicar at the vicarage....what's the betting they've adjourned to the pub?