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Oh my - I need to get married so I can wear this!

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Tocsin · 19/05/2026 06:10

It’s so gorgeous:

https://cawleystudio.com/collections/bridal-2/products/heidi-dress-porcelain-silk-taffeta?variant=52954038468874

For the reception I haven’t decided, but possibly a dress from here:

https://www.magdabutrym.com/gb-en

Ho hum - I’ll have to hit the apps. 😄

(Very sorry, I don’t have a question.)

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MorganaLeFey · 19/05/2026 21:55

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I am a big fan of 'Valerie and Her Week of Wonders' too ...

Thank you for a great thread @Tocsin!

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OhThePotential · 19/05/2026 22:02

Tocsin · 19/05/2026 21:49

You must have amazing dress memories, @OhThePotential. I think I recall the D&B clothes being quite beautifully constructed, with perfect seams on the inside. (Still something I care about as much as how clothes look on the outer side.)

Cecilie Bahnsen is another brand I cannot persuade S&B to like, despite my best efforts. My own several years long crush is possibly cooling a little - only because I become bored with anything after a while.

Almost anything - not the Fall 2006 AMcQ collection with all the tweeds. Never. Also hard to believe I had some of his black wool, low rise bell bottom trousers from 2000 and wore them to shreds. If I could go back in time …

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Not really, it was a pretty unpleasant place to work, and there was certainly no trying on of the clothes allowed. They were well made, individually in the first floor workshop at the bottom end of Stonegate.

My favourite pieces were the swallow tail waistcoats and ‘Manhattan’ suits. The ballgowns and big day dresses were never my thing. They might have been if I was not 4’ 11” !

I only discovered Cecilie Bahnsen a couple of years ago. Also Molly Goddard but she seems to have disappeared in recent years. Her Summer 2017 show is so lovely I still watch it regularly.

Tocsin · 19/05/2026 22:12

Oh no … that’s awful to hear. Were they actually cruel, or just, I dunno … exacting? (I never went to the York branch.)

I used to think of Molly Goddard as a cheaper version of Simone Rocha - but then the prices seemed to shoot up. Have never bought from either, though.

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EleanorMc67 · 19/05/2026 22:28

EnterQueene · 19/05/2026 12:25

I considered Droopy & Browns frump central when I was a young'un in Edinburgh in the 80s. For the older, wealthy woman, not the fun and fashion forward.

Funnily enough, that's what I thought of it too back then!

I moved to Edinburgh in 1987 to study landscape architecture at art college - so my friends were all fashion/jewellery/drawing & painting students. Droopy & Browns (& Laura Ashley etc) was thought of as rather prim & dull - worn by middle-class English girls studying history of art or similar at Edinburgh Uni* ... Meanwhile at the weekend we would dress up & head across to Nico's & The Sub Club in Glasgow - it felt like a truly innovative & stylish city, whereas Edinburgh seemed very conventional by comparison.

I loved & still love both cities, 40 years later - & have grown to appreciate the romantic aesthetic of the D&B label - but it was definitely NOT viewed as cool in the late 80s!

I just came across this article, where she is wearing a gorgeous green D&B dress - but even better, she describes it as having "pockets large enough to smuggle kittens"!! And now I want ALL my clothes to have pockets that will allow me to do just that ... 😸

https://vintagevixon.blogspot.com/2019/11/this-week-in-secondhand-finds.html

*Apologies to anyone middle-class & English who studied history of art at Edinburgh Uni!

Oh my - I need to get married so I can wear this!
PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 22:36

I can't believe EleanorMc67 said anything which needs MNHQ to have a look at it!

EleanorMc67 · 19/05/2026 22:37

MorganaLeFey · 19/05/2026 17:36

I look forward to that - great choice of actress too! I loved her in Possessor.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 22:41

PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 21:50

Has anyone ordered anything from Christi Anna Lomas yet

Yes, The Derry dress in navy silk taffetta. They sent a swatch and detailed measurements. It's beautiful but of course got torn to shreds on here by the flattering brigade. Also a Hettie jacket which I knew would be lovely as already have one.

got torn to shreds on here by the flattering brigade

Heaven forbid that I choose clothes to make my body look as good as possible.

OhThePotential · 19/05/2026 22:46

Tocsin · 19/05/2026 22:12

Oh no … that’s awful to hear. Were they actually cruel, or just, I dunno … exacting? (I never went to the York branch.)

I used to think of Molly Goddard as a cheaper version of Simone Rocha - but then the prices seemed to shoot up. Have never bought from either, though.

Not cruel, just very unpleasant at Director level. I was in marketing/accounts and stepped over Angela’s dogs (Water Hounds) to get to my desk every day but as a junior member of staff I was not allowed to speak to her. There was a lot of strange hierarchical stuff like that. The last couple of years were of course very difficult for everyone, with Angela’s illness and death at just fifty.

Is Molly Goddard still going at all? There have been no fashion shows for a few years now.

I don’t like everything Simone Rocha has done, just the really flouncy romantic stuff.

EleanorMc67 · 19/05/2026 22:47

PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 22:36

I can't believe EleanorMc67 said anything which needs MNHQ to have a look at it!

Me neither! Do I get a badge?

Calliopespa · 19/05/2026 22:53

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 22:41

got torn to shreds on here by the flattering brigade

Heaven forbid that I choose clothes to make my body look as good as possible.

Yes, I don't understand the issue with demanding clothes be flattering - albeit sometimes comfort wins out.

Tbh anything besides looking on you and feeling good shouts contrivance to me ...

OhThePotential · 19/05/2026 22:58

PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 21:50

Has anyone ordered anything from Christi Anna Lomas yet

Yes, The Derry dress in navy silk taffetta. They sent a swatch and detailed measurements. It's beautiful but of course got torn to shreds on here by the flattering brigade. Also a Hettie jacket which I knew would be lovely as already have one.

Thanks for that. I got as far as the swatch for a corduroy Kilty coat but then backed off, I’ve been collecting C&R like a mad woman for years but it somehow felt too ‘serious’ to actually commission a piece.

I make ‘unflattering’ clothes too and said to my DH last night that if I ever got to the point of putting a brand label in them it would be ‘Take Up Space’.

PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 23:00

I think it's a restrictive and negative way of choosing clothes. It starts from the assumption that there are parts of your body you [general you] want to hide or minimise and parts you want to accentuate. Clothes are chosen to show off your curves/ show off your lovely figure /hide your arms/ make you look thinner /smaller.

Clothes are chosen to suit your body type and then if you add in your "colours" it becomes even more restrictive.

I'm with the OP when she said

I don’t give a fig for clothes being ‘flattering’ in the MN sense. I don’t choose them to ‘show off my figure’. Purely to express my delight in the craft and design and beauty of the thing. Unless it’s Zara - where I just think it’s cute

RobertJohnsonsShoes · 19/05/2026 23:13

That model has had enough of this shit

EleanorMc67 · 19/05/2026 23:14

MorganaLeFey · 19/05/2026 21:55

@OVienna
@RegularFrankieFan

I am a big fan of 'Valerie and Her Week of Wonders' too ...

Thank you for a great thread @Tocsin!

It's wonderful, isn't it? One of those films where I think drugs may have been involved ...

There are many films that I adore visually because of the costumes/clothing. Maybe I should start a thread on that very topic ...

(Like this one - the white skin & auburn hair, the vivid green cushiony carpet of moss, the pooling blood-red satin ... Tale of Tales, a really fabulous film.)

Oh my - I need to get married so I can wear this!
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 23:28

PhaedraTwo · 19/05/2026 23:00

I think it's a restrictive and negative way of choosing clothes. It starts from the assumption that there are parts of your body you [general you] want to hide or minimise and parts you want to accentuate. Clothes are chosen to show off your curves/ show off your lovely figure /hide your arms/ make you look thinner /smaller.

Clothes are chosen to suit your body type and then if you add in your "colours" it becomes even more restrictive.

I'm with the OP when she said

I don’t give a fig for clothes being ‘flattering’ in the MN sense. I don’t choose them to ‘show off my figure’. Purely to express my delight in the craft and design and beauty of the thing. Unless it’s Zara - where I just think it’s cute

Thing is, we all have to look in the full-length mirror and like what we see, or at least not be horrified by it. For some people, that can look like being a living mannequin for something sculptural that could be on a catwalk at Paris fashion week. They want people to see the clothes first. For others, "does this make me look my best self?" is the key question. They want people to see them, not their clothes.

I suspect that a person's figure has a lot to do with it too. Someone who needs to go to Bravissimo for bras and has problems keeping weight off is likely to struggle to pull off an "art piece" dress designed for someone flat-chested and slim, even if it's made in measurements that ought to go around her. It's going to hang wrong, pull across the bust, crease under the arms because of a lack of bust darts and princess seams, and be too big on the waist and hips.

"If you like the embellishment on that boxy evening jacket, wear it" doesn't solve the fact that I can have a size 18 or even 20 to go around my boobs, too wide on the shoulders and the sleeves coming down below my thumbs, or a 14 that fits my shoulders and arms but I cannot fasten up. Likewise empire line anything, the waist seam runs across my nipples and I have to upsize so I look like a parachute. For anyone who isn't slim and small-busted, cut and fit absolutely will affect how we see ourselves in our clothes. It's not restrictive to say this, if anything, it's empowering because I can save so much time when clothes shopping by disregarding anything that I know doesn't have a prayer of working on my body. The Trinny and Susannah books were like someone handed me the cheat codes for buying clothes that I would look in the mirror and say "OK with that" about.

MorganaLeFey · 19/05/2026 23:47

EleanorMc67 · 19/05/2026 23:14

It's wonderful, isn't it? One of those films where I think drugs may have been involved ...

There are many films that I adore visually because of the costumes/clothing. Maybe I should start a thread on that very topic ...

(Like this one - the white skin & auburn hair, the vivid green cushiony carpet of moss, the pooling blood-red satin ... Tale of Tales, a really fabulous film.)

YES! YES! YES!

Please start a thread on this ...

ALICE
COMPANY OF WOLVES
DAISIES
DONKEY SKIN
EXCALIBUR
PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK
THE LOVE WITCH
THE RED SHOES
VALERIE AND HER WEEK OF WONDERS

Just for starters ...

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PhaedraTwo · 20/05/2026 00:08

Barry Lyndon - costumes and all those painterly sets.

In the Mood for Love (as much for Tony Leung’s suits as Maggie Cheung's cheongsams)

Not a film but BBC mini series The English - the costumes - Emily Blunt's changing as the story progressed and Chaske Spencer's mixed Army and native clothing was integral to the drama.

MorganaLeFey · 20/05/2026 00:19

BARRY LYNDON ... ahhhhhh ... was not in full mode ... YES!

One of the greatest films ever!

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PhaedraTwo · 20/05/2026 00:31

MorganaLeFey · 20/05/2026 00:19

BARRY LYNDON ... ahhhhhh ... was not in full mode ... YES!

One of the greatest films ever!

It's interesting, well interesting to me, that despite not really being that great an actress, Marisa Berenson was perfectly cast and excellent in 2 exceptionally good films, Cabaret being the other.

EleanorMc67 · 20/05/2026 00:31

I might do just that, otherwise this thread may veer seriously off topic ...

Btw, @Tocsin , though I don't especially care for your dream wedding dress, I do really love many other pieces on the website. I also applaud their use of an older model.

Calliopespa · 20/05/2026 00:41

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/05/2026 23:28

Thing is, we all have to look in the full-length mirror and like what we see, or at least not be horrified by it. For some people, that can look like being a living mannequin for something sculptural that could be on a catwalk at Paris fashion week. They want people to see the clothes first. For others, "does this make me look my best self?" is the key question. They want people to see them, not their clothes.

I suspect that a person's figure has a lot to do with it too. Someone who needs to go to Bravissimo for bras and has problems keeping weight off is likely to struggle to pull off an "art piece" dress designed for someone flat-chested and slim, even if it's made in measurements that ought to go around her. It's going to hang wrong, pull across the bust, crease under the arms because of a lack of bust darts and princess seams, and be too big on the waist and hips.

"If you like the embellishment on that boxy evening jacket, wear it" doesn't solve the fact that I can have a size 18 or even 20 to go around my boobs, too wide on the shoulders and the sleeves coming down below my thumbs, or a 14 that fits my shoulders and arms but I cannot fasten up. Likewise empire line anything, the waist seam runs across my nipples and I have to upsize so I look like a parachute. For anyone who isn't slim and small-busted, cut and fit absolutely will affect how we see ourselves in our clothes. It's not restrictive to say this, if anything, it's empowering because I can save so much time when clothes shopping by disregarding anything that I know doesn't have a prayer of working on my body. The Trinny and Susannah books were like someone handed me the cheat codes for buying clothes that I would look in the mirror and say "OK with that" about.

Edited

I agree. There are times when neither wearer nor clothes are doing any favours to each other.

There is no point extolling the virtues of "the craft" then putting them on someone who doesn't allow it to look the way it was designed to look. Anyone can have interesting clothes, but to me there is an art in knowing what suits whom.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 20/05/2026 01:01

EleanorMc67 · 20/05/2026 00:31

I might do just that, otherwise this thread may veer seriously off topic ...

Btw, @Tocsin , though I don't especially care for your dream wedding dress, I do really love many other pieces on the website. I also applaud their use of an older model.

I also applaud their use of an older model.

I concur, and particularly as this collection is not the "grandma" stuff (Chums catalogue, Damart) that older models are usually sidelined into.