WWW's 10 year younger more chat and confession thread, June 2008

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All welcome

Veils drawn over last week...especially as it was half term.

The rules (anyone can join):

This is about feeling better about yourself...not necessarily a diet per se etc etc

• Sunscreen at all times
• No or little booze. Wine at the weekend is allowed if you want it
• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can
• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day
• Apply body cream as often as possible
• Use hand cream
• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos
• Eat healthily
• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

duchess: am v impressed with your busy day! It sounded lovely and is NOT helping with the broodiness . Relax today please

www: I daren't click on the champagne link...am mentally gearing up for starting on Sunday instead of Monday...WHY can you not have milk in your redbush tea or decaf? Seems illogical if you are allowed cream and cheese...

batters: lolol at your dd and you fitting into a skirt and lolol at 'compliments from MEN' [holy grail emoticon]. Your day sounds lovely. Have a good evening.

had TOAST this morning in a last ditch carb blow out

having thai curry tonight with RICE and out to dinner tomorrow with a great friend (of noisy sex discussion fame) so will get royally drunk and eat loads

Hi everyone

Enjoying reading everyones comments - this is a very witty diet thread! Feel I cant compete so will just chuckle along with you and announce that I HEART my wiifit because it is nice to me - got on it today and its says ANOTHER pound off

Yesterday

SPF
Not enough water
Not enough creaming of skin
Breakfast : fruit Lunch: Noodles and veg Dinner: Jacket potato, beans, sweetcorn, homemade tasteless coleslaw and salad. Mullerlight and bananas for pud.

Today havent actually eaten anything yet, which is probably not good but just got baby down for nap so going to make some poached eggs on toast.

Having a chinese tonight woohoo - sticking to veg chow mein but still woohoo. Going to try very hard for no wine.

pecka is it good? the wii fit?

JJ - glad it's gone well. And yay for the epidural! Hope he can muster a smile over the next few days - and a poo Don't underestimate how low just having the GA can make him feel; I'm sure that will have a prt to play in his mental fragility. Xx

How old is dd batters? Mine doesn't sleep well - we are doing Boots sleepy balm and relaxation music at the moment to little effect.

Have done the gym this morning. I'm quite enjoying it which I didn't think I would TBH. Running hopefully tomorrow and on Sunday it's our local half marathon which I won't be taking part in but I will go along to give them a cheer.

No time as at work but have read you all and reply later.

JJ, poor love, I hope he's on the up soon, I'm glad your mum is helpful.

Enid, milk has lactose in it, which is sugar. Anything with -ose at the end of it is evil and to be avoided. Cream doesn't ahve lactose so is ok.

The Champagne was £30 a bottle I know, I know, outrageous but oh well. I bought six bottles plus some Claret and stuff for dh. He will be allowdd the odd sip of Champagne as well I suppose.

Oh JJ, keep your chin up,

right, showing off about my food intake today
2 rashers of unctuous bacon including the rind and melting fat
omellete with spinach and blue cheese
cheddar chunk for snack
pork chop panfried with ghee, wilted spinach, mashed cauliflower and cream and mustard to de-glaze.

also, made fried noodes, chocolate cookies, chicken rice and opened numerous bags of crisps and was not tempted ONCE

it really is the easiest diet imaginable
come and join us

JJ - hope DS is improving today (and has soft poo). DH & I stayed a week in hospital with our DD1 and it is incredibly draining. Hope he's home soon so you can all recover.

batters - why is DD not sleeping? Wishing you a restful weekend.

suzy - was the bacon rind really crispy? Mmm. I can't eat rind that still bends!

I have had a restful day. And I feel even more tired than usual. That can't be right?! I'm about to take DS1 swimming after which we will be eating pizza and ice cream but otherwise food today has been good.

Hand, face & body done. Will try and remember to do feet later. Sleeping reasonably well given the circs.

it was a sensuous kaleidoscope of all textures, Duchess

fanfeckintastic

JJ - hope ds is feeling better today, and hope you got have managed to catch up on some sleep.

Hope you're feel better as well Yoyo. And all others who feel crap (quite a few of us for one reason or another atm )

WWW - didn't realise you were on the champagne diet - now that sounds more doable to me! (I can't be trusted near a computer with a credit card either).

Batters - I am the same with clothes! I have bought a fair few things, recently, some of which are now too big and others which I will 'look good' in and which will not cut me in half be far more comfortable when I am x pounds smaller (and I am x amount braver). I am v bad about weighing myself obsessively - so obsessive that I could chart a large part of my life through knowing exactly what I weighed and how it affected me [saddo emoticon].

Today the bloody gates opened and have released some of the crappy hormones. Maybe we will eventually all sync like they do in girls' schools? Hope to get back to gym next week when I finally get an hour or so to myself when not doing my impression of the Incredible Hulk.

And I shall have a guilt-free glass or 2 tonight. Sadly not a lovely Veuve Cliquot but I can live with that.

Happy weekend start all.

unknown, will be interested to hear what you make of the book. Hope you manage to make sense of the chaos, can you cancel even more things?

DofN, you've just had a baby, no wonder you're knackered. I'm v impressed at everyone being everywhere on time too! Hope today was more relaxing.

Arfy lol at drinking and then going on Wiifit, will you abuse it in turn do you think?

JJ, I'm wishing for soft poo for jjjr too. And some sleep and feelings of relief for you.

Batters, blimey at 20 skirts! But hey at you and dd fitting into one skirt, well done you, fantastic achievement I haven't tried on any La Redoute as I have PMT and therefore feel like a balloon about to pop so have decided not to try on clothes OR weigh myself until my stomach's gone down a bit. VERY impressed at compliments from MEN too! What's up with dd? Anything we can help with?

Enid, welcome to IandN from Sunday when we will have a new shiny thread. Enjoy your night out. I went to Pizza Express 2 days before I started and had garlic bread AND pizza AND caesar salad with croutons AND loads of wine. Then ate carbs the next day but since then (May 5th) ne'er a carb has passed my lips and I honestly don't mind so far.

Pecka, you;re allowed wine at the weekend, definitely! WEll done ona good day.

Saggars, imppressed at gym.

Suzy, sounds lovely, I'm also finding I'm not tempted by carbs, I just have a switch in my head which says "nah, don't eat 'em". So far, I mustn't get smug.

lol Moonshine at Incredible Hulk, glad you're feeling a bit better, enjoy the wine. I have Cava in the freezer as Champagne not being delivered til Monday, dahling!

Today

vitamins galore
2 sausage and egg muffins
some salami and cheese
salad with lettuce, parma ham, eggs, anchovies, vinaigrette
2 more sausage and egg muffins, warm, for supper
more cheese and salami
loads of water
sunscreen
that's five nights witohut booze, I do not drink in the week, no siree and have found it v easy this week
but will have cava tonight
and bound to be a reasonably early night as I'm knackered
But happy as I can be with pmt

happy weekend everyone!

Evening all, just back from a rainwashed few days at Center Puddles in Elveden Swamp. Could almost hear the banjos as we crossed into Suffolk and the water dripped down from the trees...
Actually, especially considering that people have been incarcerated in hospitals with their children and long-life NHS cookies on here, I have little to complain about - we had a fantastic time
So I too am hopeful for a recap JJ but what little I have seen is that Nigella showed her chops by managing not to insult AW-T in public (some feat, he is such a vile gnome), yoyo and batters' dds are currently not their usual blithe and sunny selves , JJJr is doing well on the whole, enif is broody and the Talk of Darzet after her snug revelations, Archard is gorgeous, prufrock is as yet unreconstructed and www went tonto with the old CC while premenstrual. We all seem to have survived halvo OK I think. Am LOLing about which is nastier, a piece of upstart plastic or an Australian gym bunny.
Duchess, I hope you have had a rest, and L&S, any news on the job?

Can recommend CP. OK, felt like a beached whale when spotted self in cruel mirrors hidden in swimming "paradise" foliage but did spend at least an hour every day wading around with dd screeching on my back/fishing half-dead but grinning ds out of flume outfalls, not to mention 15,000 steps minimum hoofing it off to various healthful activities such as table tennis
Sending warm sympathies especially to all glum about their girths. Totally feel your pain. We will get there though ladies and lots of love to you all JJ especially JJJr and JJJrJr XXX

ooh, Marina, someone wants some reassurance about Elvedon CP. Glad you had a good time.

Glad the op went well JJ, and JJjr is soon feeling better in himself.

Glad you've taken it easy(er) today Duchess. I often find I'm more tired when I think I shouldn't be iykwim (like I'm always blardy ill come half-term).

Lol Pecka, I never feel witty either.

That is very impressive batters, you and DD getting into one skirt. Another obsessive weigher here too.

Saggars, used to love watching the Marathon (DH has run it a couple of times). I think it's a shame it's only 'arf these days.

www, I could cancel stuff, it's just unfortunate that everything is clashing over the next few weekends. They're in very active scouting groups, DS1 said a while ago he wanted to do the Duke of Ed stuff a while ago, and bingo the first event is in the middle of everything else. Throw in the sport (only one at the moment) and school stuff... all three of them would do loads more stuff if they could! We'll see how it goes. Some plans have changed tonight, which is one clash less, although it may also mean we don't get to sneak away for our weekend . We'll see.

• Sunscreen at all times yy
• No booze.
• 2 mile hike, plus the twister.
• Lots of water/weak tea.
• Apply body cream no.
• Use hand cream, yy
• Go to bed early, stupid o'clock.
• Eat healthily, slipped a bit tonight, but content because I've been sensible all week.
• Be happy. Yay, tis leweekend. DH and DS2 are off to Silverstone tomorrow, DS3 is on camp, so a noiseless, if busy, weekend for myself and DS1.

DS3 informs me I must have Durecell Plus batteries inserted because I walk too fast . If only.....

Busy day yesterday but a reasonable one. Something came up in work so that I didn't get to the gym but may try today ahead of the morning's session with trainer.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who finds DDs difficult. DD1 is only 12 so we haven't even got into a lot of it yet. I suppose she had quite a protected life until we moved but now she is able to be out with friends and so tries to push the boundaries at every opportunity. We have a lot to do this weekend and it could be fun for everyone but "the best laid plans, etc". Who else has the pre-teen/teen difficulties at the moment? Anyone know what happened to Winnie?

Ah well. It is lovely and sunny so I'm going to put last week to the back of my mind and look ahead to next week. It can only be better!!

Have a great weekend everyone.

Moonshine - I loved Butlins and yes, I do have very happy memories of it. It has been a long time but it will have improved since then in lots of ways. I think you have to be very open minded about the entertainment (don't think I'd enjoy the things my parents enjoyed) but that has probably moved on too. Which one are you visiting?
Gordon Ramsey's children go with his mother every year apparently (useless bit of info from Sunday supplements).
As a child there was always something to do and I don't recall being bored. We had quite a few holidays which were very wet but even then I enjoyed it. As a teenager I have to say that a lot of my focus was on a holiday romance. Fond memories indeed.

I have 3 enormous spots right in the middle of my forehead. Why?

I am scared

(re diet)

I know I will manage the two weeks but will then eat carbs

maybe not for me

Enid - that is exactly how I felt about it. I know that I could not do it long term and would be so depressed to put all that weight back on in a short space of time. It is so tempting but I simply know that I couldn't make it work.

I agree, anyone who wants to eat carbs again as a matter of course shouldn't do India and Neris or Atkins. They do say once you're in phase 3, maintaining the same weight, then you can have pasta and bread sometimes but not routinely. I think I can go without carbs from now on and I think they could be at the root of my problem. If I think about it I LOVE

bacon, crispy
chicken with the skin on
beef, pork with crackling
fish, all kinds, especially prawns and lobster and crab with garlic mayonnaise
salamis
cheese, most kinds, inc blue cheese
dressings, sauces especially with garlic
eggs
vegetables, some kinds
garlic and spices and hot things

all of which I CAN have on I& N. What I also used to eat but now don't:

bread
lentils
chickpeas
granola
fruit
things with sugar in them

and if I think about it sometimes I'd have had in the past:

BREAKFAST: granola (carbs) or toast (carbs) or bacon sandwich (fat and carbs)
LUNCH: lentils (carbs) with feta (fat)
SUPPER: meat and potatoes/starchy veg (fat + carbs)
plus additional things containing fat or sugar and alcohol

which was all bound to be a recipe for weight gain for me.

So this is the right diet for me, I don't like pasta, I can live without rice, I'm not bothered about brown bread, can live without sweet things and the only thing I will really, really miss is just baked white bread spread thickly with cold butter. But hey, I can have it once a blue moon, any more than that and I will get fat again. And once I'm slimmer I intend to stay that way. I accept that diets don't work IF you change your eating, lose weight and then go back to stuffing your face. Of COURSE you're going to put it back on again! Gosh, it's all so simple written down isn't it?

Sorry, feta and meat are protein and fat, obv!

Same here yoyo and enid and I think batters felt likewise. Truth to tell, www, I think this diet suits your preferred eating style v. well
Have to say that cutting carbs right down on SlimyWorld has made me feel annoyingly well. I heart my DeCecco wholewheat fusilli but I feel heaps more lively without wheat-based carbs, it's a huge surprise to me
Pecka, that probably means you are doing it more religiously than I am. Hope they fade soon.

hello all

Am still being a complete slacker, but am enjoying reading about the rest of you

I am expecting to be very inactive for the next few days as I have sprained my ankle and spent yesterday afternoon in A&E being x rayed and bandaged. Foot is very large and purple.

So nothing to do except lie on the sofa and stuff my face, whilst issuing orders to dh

WWW - it does sound like your kind of eating style, so that's fantastic. But, not wanting to be the 'Voice of Doom' for others who hesitate, I would just caution that I too went virtually carb-free for quite a while after Cambridge Diet as they seemed to be my nemesis but, not being a fully-committed low-carber, once I did have some it was like the fall of the Berlin Wall - unfortunately you don't really lose a taste for it. And then of course your weight goes up very very quickly and yo-yos around wildly. I'm sure a lot of it is to do with glycogen levels and how much extra water carbs attract (sorry I am not very hot on the science) but it was very very depressing and personally put me in that famine/feast (well mostly feast, truth be told) mode. Ok end of Voice of Doom warning.

Yoyo - sounds like you really do have fond memories of Butlins, which is lovely (I'm going to the Bognor one btw). And I know that we are doing this mostly because there are so many kid-friendly activities and if they are happy, then mine and dh's life is much better. But I am now covering my ears and eyes about pre-teens, in a kind of 'ignorance is bliss' manner. I have trouble enough with her 7- year-old-going-on-13-year-old-attitude. Do they really go out independently at 12 (quivers)?

I don't think I have seen Winnie around actually for a while (and I am a terrible lurker in some of the darkest recesses of MN).

Marina - I think the last time I went swimming was at Elvedon when I was 5 stones bigger than I am now! Snurk at paradise - I used to make a bolt for the water and stay well and truly submerged whilst pushing ds around in one of those baby rubber rings.

JJ - hope all is getting better for you.

Still not well enough to go to gym but I shall try and do some gardening. And I did resist the lush squidgey white loaf the rest of the family had for lunch (apologies to all the InN'ers among you).

But I am becoming quite obsessive about sunscreen because this sunlight is not good for my wrinkles - they seem to be deepening by the second atm.

Moonshine, can I ask out of interest, how many carbs did you go back to? I accept that I can't go back to them if I want to keep the weight off (once it's gorn, it's still very much on me atm!), I am v happy to hear the voice of doom on this and am hoping those kind of thoughts will be enough to keep me off them in the future. Tbh, I've got six more months of this (am 5 weeks in) so eating this way ought to be a habit by then.

Today
bacon and eggs
ordered a steak sandwich in a cafe and just ate the steak
then went to Waitrose and bought a crab, some tiger prawns and found aoili without sugar in it, hurrah so had prawns dipped in that plus the crab which was teeny, not much meat on it
not enough water today, must drink some more
used sunscreen
drank 3/4 of a bottle of Cava last night and went to bed at 10pm but was woken by dd in the night AND forgot to turn alarm off so it went off at 6am and I didn't get back to sleep, how irritating. Never mind.
As happy as I can be with pmt