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What to wear to an event with family drama likely?

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 06:19

So this is a bit of an odd one. I have to go to a family will reading. I have no idea what to wear as I’ve never had to do this kind of thing before. It’s a solicitors office and it’s followed by a tea (as there wasn’t a funeral for various reasons).

I suppose the thing is partly the occasion and partly about who else will be there.

There are some older fairly judgemental family going to be there, who disapprove of my life choices. I think my main thing really is being able to feel confident whilst also feeling like myself. Wouldn’t rule out the possibility of high drama given some of the personalities involved. So I am looking for something between armpit and a safety blanket.

I am late forties, size 16 bust, size 14 hips. Long dark hair and suit warm, bright colours or black and white at a push. Knee length or long skirts/dresses, midi looks awful on me and not a big fan of trousers.

My best thought so far is something like a bias cut dress with a nice cropped cardigan but I have no idea really.

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quirkychick · 05/05/2024 17:03

Op, it sounds as if your family are something like my dp's. I struggle with formal clothes and always try to go on the extravagant, rich bohemian side for "occasions". Purple is a good option, power and half mourning. For late mil's funeral/memorial I wore a black, bias-cut silk chiffon skirt and purple linen cardigan.

Coldupnorth87 · 05/05/2024 17:12

The thing is that if you grow up in a drama-loving family, you do get conditioned that way and even if you do all of the things (step away from the drama, therapy, ego mgt, Buddism), there's a part of you that still plays the games!

KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:15

Coldupnorth87 · 05/05/2024 17:12

The thing is that if you grow up in a drama-loving family, you do get conditioned that way and even if you do all of the things (step away from the drama, therapy, ego mgt, Buddism), there's a part of you that still plays the games!

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That’s a so true. It all comes flooding back like second nature.

I very rarely think about clothes now. My family are so much about power dressing and the language of clothes.

These days I have a pretty casual uniform that I update every year or two.

I still have a bit of fun with things like shoes and make up and colours, but it’s very much about fun and functionality for me now. I really prefer that.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:16

quirkychick · 05/05/2024 17:03

Op, it sounds as if your family are something like my dp's. I struggle with formal clothes and always try to go on the extravagant, rich bohemian side for "occasions". Purple is a good option, power and half mourning. For late mil's funeral/memorial I wore a black, bias-cut silk chiffon skirt and purple linen cardigan.

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Thank you, it’s so good that someone else recognises that type of dynamic. That outfit sounds great btw, very much my type of thing.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:17

Missingthesea · 05/05/2024 15:21

You might consider wearing purple, OP - the colour of power. I have a lovely purple overshirt I used to wear whenever I was going to have to deal with a couple of difficult relatives - it always made me feel able to tell them where to get off 😁

Purple is a good shout. Bright purple suits me and aubergine is ok.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:18

grinandslothit · 05/05/2024 16:07

I think you're overthinking things. just wear a simple pant suit and be done with it. You'll never see these people again, so I'm not sure why you're all worried about what you should wear and being judged because...who cares.

Thing is, if I bought a trouser suit I’d really never get any wear from it again. A dress I might.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:20

grinandslothit · 05/05/2024 16:01

Yes I mean really this is completely overthinking things.

Yes, “you’re overthinking it” is something I’ve heard quite often. It’s a common way to shut down neurodivergent people.

I see more detail to life than many people and I’m actually pretty proud of that rather than ashamed.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:21

singswithitsfingers · 05/05/2024 16:07

I obviously missed the book in which she went to prison.

scurries off to investigate

OP there is lots of good advice on here. Think job interview. Smart bag and shoes - maybe to add a bit of colour to a neutral dress? And well accessorised.

And please report back. I hope it goes well and has a good outcome.

Thank you. I think job interview maybe makes it too much like I’m trying to fit in though, and that’s definitely not the message I want to send.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:23

PiggieWig · 05/05/2024 16:28

Something like this maybe?

The Italian widow look has been somewhat overdone in my family, amazing though it is as aesthetic.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:27

Giggorata · 05/05/2024 16:25

You might just as well go for it. Maybe something like this, with, of course, the addition of a veil.

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I’m not the other woman!

At my father’s funeral, apparently his eulogy contained a thank you to his (female) “long-term bridge partner”.

I suspect his wife was somewhat affronted by that, as she was by mention of me and my mum (his first wife). But he wrote his own eulogy and told his brother to read it verbatim.

I didn’t attend as I wasn’t invited but a transcript of the eulogy popped up on Ancestry about a year later.

My father’s side of the family is a whole other story.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:27

therealcookiemonster · 05/05/2024 15:09

something subtle like this?

Bit scratchy for me. But thanks anyway.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:28

FrogTheWarrior · 05/05/2024 15:57

In that case, a cloche hat and a slick of red lippy.

Again, that was my late grandma’s wheelhouse and would be seen as having been overdone.

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Daisygrass · 05/05/2024 17:46

Brilliant op. Clothes are important at a tricky family event like this and I absolutely admire the level of thought you are giving it. I would be doing the exact same to get me through it. My thinking is demure, demure, demure topped off (or bottomed off rather) with fishnets to cause the scandalised raised eyebrows. And I would absolutely be showing up.

KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 17:48

Daisygrass · 05/05/2024 17:46

Brilliant op. Clothes are important at a tricky family event like this and I absolutely admire the level of thought you are giving it. I would be doing the exact same to get me through it. My thinking is demure, demure, demure topped off (or bottomed off rather) with fishnets to cause the scandalised raised eyebrows. And I would absolutely be showing up.

Thank you. I like the idea of demure with a flash of something salacious.

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DietrichandDiMaggio · 05/05/2024 17:49

The person who died was your uncle by marriage, so married to your mother's sister (assuming on your mother's side, but your posts are quite confusing as you mention different sides of the family), so not a close relative and you don't expect to have been left anything, so why are you even involved in any of this?
Also, why don't you just say who the family members are that you don't get on, with instead of all the dramatic language and use of they?

quirkychick · 05/05/2024 18:24

I love the demure with a hint of salacious, perfect! I think you need to feel like you but in a confident, fuck you manner.

KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 18:56

DietrichandDiMaggio · 05/05/2024 17:49

The person who died was your uncle by marriage, so married to your mother's sister (assuming on your mother's side, but your posts are quite confusing as you mention different sides of the family), so not a close relative and you don't expect to have been left anything, so why are you even involved in any of this?
Also, why don't you just say who the family members are that you don't get on, with instead of all the dramatic language and use of they?

Interesting question. Primarily my aunt. My aunt and uncle never had children. At various times I have been asked to be executor, told I was to be sole heir and also told I was completely disinherited. I’ve lost track of the entire sequence.

My aunt and mother had a somewhat complicated relationship. This stems from my grandmother being rather narcissistic. My mum was the black sheep and my aunt the golden child.

I tried to distance myself from my aunt/grandma fairly early but my mum wanted me to maintain a relationship with them for her sake. This unfortunately led to them trying to use me to get to her repeatedly.

When my mum died, I was grandfathered in to the position of black sheep. I did try to establish a different relationship with them around the time my mum was terminally ill and I was looking after her, primarily so they would visit her. My aunt hadn’t seen my mum for about a decade at that point, despite them living about a fifteen minute walk apart.

My mum tried to go and see her once on her birthday and brought a cake she had made. My aunt opened the door, took the cake and shut the door in my mum’s face. My mum wasn’t perfect but she was bullied by them (my aunt and grandma) all her life. Now I come to think about it, I probably say ‘them’ to reflect the fact that even though my grandma is dead, her presence still looms large and how she pitted her daughters against one another still affects a lot of the family dynamic. It’s a bit like seeing the generational cascade and personalities involved beyond just the present. A bit like magical realism.

Anyway, after my mum died I tried to put some distance into to the relationship between my aunt and grandma and me.

Low contact went relatively well at first, but I got some nasty communications from them around the time I met my now husband. My husband has only met my aunt a couple of times. The first time was fine and the second was horrendous.
My aunt had a real go at both me and him at a wider family event. The basic motive there was I suspect to scare my husband off. My aunt also tried to tell me not to throw my life away on someone so unexciting because he’s an accountant, which I think was possibly projecting about how she felt about her own marriage.

The wider family in that side is pretty much as gone now, bar a few second and third cousins a few times removed, most of whom now live in Europe and they are on my maternal grandfather’s side rather than my maternal grandmother’s. A few still live fairly locally to the hometown and I don’t know how involved they are.

So I suspect I am being involved for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, there is probably a fairly small gift in my uncles will, more likely a thing than money.

Secondly, apparently my grandma left me some money which has never yet been passed on to me (my aunt was executor). This is very much being dangled as a carrot to get me involved again. The reason behind this would be I think that my aunt is now on her own and is realising I am her only living blood relation, and she may need some help at some point. There may be some other dangling of carrots like hints of money passing to me eventually.

Thirdly, some grandstanding. From what my aunt has said, my uncle is leaving around a million pounds and I think there is an element of showing off. This is where I suspect I am my mother’s proxy- my aunt wants to show off to my mum how well her husband did. My aunt had a very big chip on her shoulder about my mum for various reasons and became very underhand sly competitive about it, all of which was stoked by my grandma. I know that sounds weird but some of the things my aunt did at my mum’s funeral and afterwards make me think that she still wants to show my mum who’s come out on top.

Fourthly, and somewhat perversely, I am also to be there to represent my aunt’s side of the family against my uncle’s side of the family.

My uncle’s side of the family was basically two sisters. One died a while back ago and she left her money to her two siblings. She stipulated that if my uncle predeceased her nothing was to go to my aunt, but instead everything would go to her sister.

My aunt took great offence at that and wanted my uncle just to give his remaining sister all the money right away to show that they didn’t need money from anyone. This is because the remaining sister and her husband are very wealthy, multi-millionaires and that has always caused a bit of tension/resentment on that side.

Their money isn actually partly oil related so perhaps I should have referenced Dallas rather than Dynasty but I always preferred the clothes in Dynasty and who can resist Joan Collins?

Anyway, I suspect that my uncle has done some kind of thing referencing that. I think I am there to be my aunt’s witness for that, that somehow she has managed to “get back”
at my uncle’s sister. Or something. I have a hard time explaining that dynamic but I kind of feel it.

Funnily enough, the presence of my uncle’s family, even though I barely know them, is fairly reassuring to me and part of the reason I am countenancing going. My aunt would be less likely to embarrass herself in front of them by having an open go at me. She’s down that to my uncle’s sister before and so his sister wouldn’t fall for it and might even intervene. There would be passive aggressive digs but still. If they don’t turn up I would think about spinning on my heel and leaving.

I also don’t want my husband by my side but outside in the getaway car with the motor running. This is because I think she is more likely to have a go at me if he isn’t there. I could be wrong.

So I want to go I think partly as reminder to myself that even though I pine a bit for my family emotionally at times, I’m really better off out of it.

Anyway, just as you posted I was thinking of my great aunt Becky (my mum’s dad’s sister). She used to turn up to family occasions wearing a man’s three piece pinstripe suit, collar and tie at half mast, accessorized with a bowler hat, pocket watch and gold signet ring. Peaky Blinders meets Marlene Dietrich.

Right up til her seventies. Looked amazing. At that point she made off from my mother’s house with a meaningful china object that my mum inherited from her grandma. Great Aunt Becky invited us to stay, then came to stay with us (she lived in England). Walked out in the middle of the night with it before we were even awake. Never saw her again.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 18:56

quirkychick · 05/05/2024 18:24

I love the demure with a hint of salacious, perfect! I think you need to feel like you but in a confident, fuck you manner.

Thank you.

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DietrichandDiMaggio · 05/05/2024 19:07

This is all fucking nuts! 😂

quirkychick · 05/05/2024 19:08

@KatPurrsonwow, that's a whole lot going on. Dp's family are something like that, we leave them to it and you honestly couldn't make up some of the stuff that goes on. The bit about sole heir/disinherited sounds very like my great aunt and my dm. We only found out at her funeral the awful things she'd been saying about dm. Some people are all about the drama

KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 19:41

quirkychick · 05/05/2024 19:08

@KatPurrsonwow, that's a whole lot going on. Dp's family are something like that, we leave them to it and you honestly couldn't make up some of the stuff that goes on. The bit about sole heir/disinherited sounds very like my great aunt and my dm. We only found out at her funeral the awful things she'd been saying about dm. Some people are all about the drama

They absolutely just live for it. Sorry about your mum and great aunt. And yes, just leaving your do’s family to get on with it is the right move.

I live such a different life than that now.

But sometimes I miss the chaos a little bit, not in itself but it was what I grew up with IYSWIM? It’s so familiar.

I think this might give me the reason to just shut the door absolutely and not look back with rose tinted nostalgia glasses.

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KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 19:42

DietrichandDiMaggio · 05/05/2024 19:07

This is all fucking nuts! 😂

Absolute mind fuck. And extreme emotional damage.

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MrsPerfect12 · 05/05/2024 20:22

Were you liked by the person that has passed?
Are you sure this isn't going to be a humiliating event for you and they'll all laugh smugly in your face?

singswithitsfingers · 05/05/2024 20:23

Could you take your lovely tuxie cat in a harness?

KatPurrson · 05/05/2024 20:35

MrsPerfect12 · 05/05/2024 20:22

Were you liked by the person that has passed?
Are you sure this isn't going to be a humiliating event for you and they'll all laugh smugly in your face?

I think he did like me up to a point.

Thank you for the warning by the way. I’m not sure about that at all. It’s perfectly possible.

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