Botox is it worth it?

[Touty]

Im 50 and all of a sudden I have wrinkles and lines which are really aging, I also look like I’m permanently scowling or growling with collapsed eye brows. Also hate my 11 lines.

I just want to look like a fresher version of my self. Anyone relate? Did Botox fix it for you?

Right @FireyNorthernBird so in your opinion there's two types of Botox. The pointless and invisible kind, and the too much oh my god what's stretched her face kind.

And anyone who opts for it obviously doesn't look after themselves in the correct ways, which you do.

Brilliant; thanks for your input.

The thing is, Ru Paul's drag race shows that with a bit of slap on, any man can look beautiful so it's all fake anyway. The beauty industry in general just contributes to overall depression in society and is on a par with the damage that social media does.

Still it's your kids dealing with the fallout in generations to come and feeling inadequate because of the so called beauty industry.

Just think in Elizabeth I's day they put lead on their faces to look very white. Nowadays it's a different poison injected into the skin. It doesn't just affect the person, it affects wider society.

Especially the people that care how they look.

Oh my cats tell me how young and smooth-looking I am every day 😂

Now you'll get the comments saying that you're single because of your extreme vanity and plastic face - oh yes I've had those before! 😂

Yea I'm definitely an attention-whore when it comes to my cat.

I'm shameless ! 🙀

The thing is, Ru Paul's drag race shows that with a bit of slap on, any man can look beautiful so it's all fake anyway.

You think drag queens look beautiful? Ru Paul himself says he doesn't dress as a woman, he dresses as a drag queen. You think that's intended as an aspirational look for women?

Give me one reason why I should read anything you have to say past this.

What the fuck has a man whose look is completely designed to be cartoonish and fake got to do with a woman who wants a slightly less wrinkled forehead?

a) Those who have had a low dose, perhaps baby botox. Honestly, I saw no difference. Why bother? They looked a bit refreshed. Honestly, a bottle of Charlotte Tilbury Glow would do that for you.

So you saw no difference except the subtle difference we've all been telling you that we're aiming for, and you could easily have believed it was just makeup. Great.

As to the Charlotte Tilbury, no, it wouldn't give you the same effect as Botox. But Botox can help stop the makeup from lining and caking on your face.

Not had Botox but have been trying Tret.

She is in the 'after' picture as well - that's the magic of botox 😉

Tret fucked my skin up something awful!

Tret doesn't work for everyone and there is a long period of adjustment. I began in the pandemic when we were all masked anyway.

At least you admit that you feel sine sort of resentment.

I think it's important to accept that everyone has the right to choose the lifestyle they want. It's really not something worth raging over. So you feel virtuous. But with that you are feeling angry, resentful and like somethings not fair. But you could make the sane choice. You just choose not to. It's kind of your issue You can't go around feeling such angry emotions because other people choose to do something you won't do. It sounds like you don't like he efffects anyway so why he resentment? Do you resent people choosing to get facial tattoos or extreme piercing? You don't want those I presume. Well you don't want Botox either so why rage at others who do want to

Of course they do - but talk about it less

As an adult you don't have to get anything done that you don't want to/don't like hun. It's really not compulsory x

FireyNorthernBird
I can’t see why you can’t train for a marathon, drink loads of water etc and have some Botox twice a year. Plenty people do both.
I am sure the ladies at the very expensive spa I’m a member have both both approaches to healthy and beauty going by their incredible well toned slender 50 year old bodies and fresh healthy looking faces.

Botox smooths out some lines. It doesn't make you slim, toned or give you the health benefits of healthy eating and exercise. If you're going to be resentful of people getting an "easy" result that you worked hard for, it makes far more sense to go at people who get liposuction or plastic surgery. And if you really could get the same results from a bottle of Charlotte Tilbury, well then, why not just use the Tilbury and enjoy the fact that you've paid so much less for the same outcome?

Resentment is what it comes down to and that's not a good enough reason. Some people will resent you having the time and money to go to the gym, train for marathons and buy all sorts of lotions and potions for your face. Does that make it somehow morally dubious and should you stop?

I think a lot of people would be far less resentful and angry about Botox if they knew what a minor thing it really is. If they truly believed it made everyone look so awful or made no worthwhile difference, they wouldn't be so pissed off about it.

I spend my money how I want, on what I want.

I do love myself, and thankfully my self esteem is robust enough that I am continue doing what I want to, and that includes getting Botox, without caring about what anyone else thinks I ‘should’ be doing ☺️

But @notlucreziaborgia if you embrace your wrinkles you end up 'richer in mind and body' apparently so...that's nice.

Do you think at some point we’ll get some new platitudes? Mix it up a bit, you know?

Nah. Botox brings out the 'enraged, superior, and slightly woo' crowd like nothing else.

Wait till they find out I also had pretty major cosmetic surgery and it's fucking AWESOME. I'll be counting my fucks until- oh no wait, I don't have a single one.

Are you me 😂As well as the Botox I've had a non-surgical nose job and a breast uplift and implants - and they are absolutely AMAZING

I also get weekly blow dries, lashes topped up every fortnight, brows waxed and tinted every 3 weeks, nails/toes with builder gel and regular bikini waxes. But of course I only do all of those things because I'm soooo vain and because society dictates to me that I should 😉

Oh see I don't do any of those regular maintenance things! Do my own nails and that's about it.

So I am ever so slightly superior to you and am sitting congratulating myself on my general highmindedness.

I posted a similar thread last year. I love it. Booked in for my third lot tomorrow. I have it on my forehead.

😂I shall defer to your superiority....

I agree, it's also used for medical issues such as bladder conditions, migraines, spasms, so many things.

I don't see why if it's used quite straightforwardly like that, people continue to get riled about cosmetic use.

And for the above, as for everything else, there's a subtle approach and ...Er , the complete opposite!

But again to each their own 👌🏻.