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This is why people are creeped out by Snag Tights

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WowStarsWow · 13/05/2022 09:30

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This is why people are creeped out by Snag Tights
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HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:35

I mean, who is calling who a fascist here? I don't read the daily mail and have no idea what they have to say about mumsnet. Never used the terms 'middle aged' or 'pearl clutching' either. I don't even think I've resorted to personal insults.

JanisMoplin · 13/05/2022 15:38

hellrabbitishere · 13/05/2022 15:32

but then are most middle aged mothers that work in an office really going to be buying this particular pair of tights ? when the marketing and advert was done i guessing they knew bloody well that they werent trying to attract that particular market and they are going for the younger teenage , twentysomethings who would be more than happy to buy a pair of carebear tights or whatever they are and wont give a shit about the advert .

its amusing to see everyone get all worked up about the advert and the oh well they obviously arent catering to me , well no when it comes to this particular pair of tights no they arent , why is that a big deal ? 🙄

im sure they do plenty of plain black or discreet colours that many people would buy or is it that old shit about well i dont like this advert so im never going to buy another one of their products again ,

is it the same as all those people who spout that crap about not shopping from lush because they object to the odd advertising campaign and the fact that lush are apparently really tough or have unreaching high standards of their staff ?

which again i find laughable as im in retail and have been for literally all my working life and i can tell you there are many companies that treat their staff like shit including the one i work for , i also have known at least 3 people that have or do work at tesco and they also do not treat their staff great , but im betting thats not going to lead everyone to stop doing the weekly shop there to make a stand , anymore than it would stop women buying perfume and shampoo , makeup from the company i work for if they knew how we are treated .

i find all it all a load of santimonous crap really

No not this particular one, but in the past have bought fun colours like teal, maroon and mustard for myself and DD. However increasingly I can't figure out how they will look on this boring middle aged mum who works hard in an office to pay the bills, so I guess I will move on to Better Tights or whatever was listed upthread.

Pennox · 13/05/2022 15:38

I don't hate anyone and don't have any phobias. I am GC though and don't believe people can change sex and don't want men in women's spaces. I do believe that the trans agenda promotes harmful gender stereotypes that damage everyone, particularly lesbians and that children under 18 should be left the fuck out of it. Outside that I'd like consenting adult to crack on with whatever they're into as long as it's not hurting anyone else. No hatred there I'm afraid. I just don't want other people's interests and agendas rammed down my throat, especially when they damage mine.

GoldenOmber · 13/05/2022 15:39

im sure they do plenty of plain black or discreet colours that many people would buy

They probably (still) do, but it’s frequently hard to find out with Snag since their advertising is always like this. “Tights that fit! For everyone!” advertised with a photo of a large beardy bloke in fishnets squatting seductively on a bed, etc etc.

hellrabbitishere · 13/05/2022 15:40

RampantIvy · 13/05/2022 15:28

Was that to me @JaneJeffer?
Why? The picture quality on my laptop isn't great so it is difficult to tell.

And why do they only ever feature very curvaceous women on their web page? Women come in all shapes and sizes. I know they are inclusive, but It took me a while for me to realise that they don't only sell plus sized tights.

And lastly, why do Snag imagine that grown women want to wear My Little Pony tights?

but the point your missing is that just because some grown women might not want to there are lots of others who will , lets face it if they only sold a couple of pairs of these things then they wouldnt bother making any more in different styles and going to the bother of the cost of an advert for them .

some grown women must be buying the bloody things , its obviously not just maybe you and deffo not me , but then why do people make bunny tops and fake fur bunny rucksacks with huge ears , what market is there in that ? well i happen to be the grown woman who would buy them , theres always someone who wants to buy it or they wouldnt bother to make them

HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:40

Adults wearing clothes with 'children's' characters on isn't a new thing anyway.

This is why people are creeped out by Snag Tights
HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:45

I am GC though and don't believe people can change sex and don't want men in women's spaces.

Which I completely agree with. I don't feel that that is a transphobic view at all though, others might disagree. But I can't see this ad as anything deeper than alternative fashion.

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 15:47

@Butteryflakycrust83 - you said "Their custom will come from mainly fat, young women with alternative fashion style who will be much more liberal in their political views".

From that I infer that if you are older or slimmer, you views will be less liberal.

Not such a reach is it????

Butteryflakycrust83 · 13/05/2022 15:49

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 15:47

@Butteryflakycrust83 - you said "Their custom will come from mainly fat, young women with alternative fashion style who will be much more liberal in their political views".

From that I infer that if you are older or slimmer, you views will be less liberal.

Not such a reach is it????

No, that's absolutely a reach.

Pennox · 13/05/2022 15:50

So why are you saying people are being transphobic when critiscing an advert with a man in tights that no one knows whether he identifies as trans or not? They aren't expressing negativity about his possible trans status, or not, but about the fetishistic elements of the marketing.

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 15:50

@Butteryflakycrust83 - spell it out for me?

HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:50

On a somewhat related note, I didn't realise tights were such a problem for people. I just buy them from primark.

pointythings · 13/05/2022 15:51

HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:45

I am GC though and don't believe people can change sex and don't want men in women's spaces.

Which I completely agree with. I don't feel that that is a transphobic view at all though, others might disagree. But I can't see this ad as anything deeper than alternative fashion.

I agree, and what I find really disturbing is this instant association of someone who looks a certain way with paedophilia. That's quite a shocking leap/assumption to make. I ran into a group of Broneys in 2016 - or strictly speaking, adult My Little Pony fans, because some were female. They were definitely pretty out there, but they were completely harmless and unthreatening. And would definitely have been up for the eponymous tights.

And not all Snag advertising is as extreme as the one posted - many are alternative fashion, but not nearly all.

Lastly, Better Tights don't have nearly the range of colours and prints that Snag do so I'll stick with Snag, thanks. While continuing to believe that there has to be a better way to manage the trans debate than the utterly polarised views that currently dominate.

lassof · 13/05/2022 15:52

Butteryflakycrust83 · 13/05/2022 15:28

Funnily enough, I don't know what a fetishised toddler looks like.

But again, cant see anyone else using pictures of women dressed up in similar clothing.

Or should I look at the below and shout that the ice cream is actually a penis?

no, it's clearly a muff-in

hellrabbitishere · 13/05/2022 15:53

HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:45

I am GC though and don't believe people can change sex and don't want men in women's spaces.

Which I completely agree with. I don't feel that that is a transphobic view at all though, others might disagree. But I can't see this ad as anything deeper than alternative fashion.

have to agree with this , its an ad thats it and its designed to get people to look at it , they are marketing a pair of rather wild tights and if the model was dressed in a black suit and wearing these wacky tights it would look odd at best ,
then everyone would be crying oh how can they say a business woman would ever buy and wear those tights to work ?!! 😂 its interesting how everyone looks for hidden meanings in every single thing these days

HailAdrian · 13/05/2022 15:57

Pennox · 13/05/2022 15:50

So why are you saying people are being transphobic when critiscing an advert with a man in tights that no one knows whether he identifies as trans or not? They aren't expressing negativity about his possible trans status, or not, but about the fetishistic elements of the marketing.

I truly believe that some of the posters on this thread have taken issue with the fact that the model is male and advertising 'female' clothing. And I've seen a lot of negativity expressed about transwomen on here that goes beyond 'it's impossible to change sex.'

The assumption that he or she is a transwoman was my mistake, for sure.

DomesticatedZombie · 13/05/2022 15:59

So, we need to talk about paraphilias.

A fetish is a paraphilia.

Almost all paraphiliacs are male.

Paraphilias are common - estimated around 1 in 20 males have them to a degree.

Fetishes/paraphilias tend to cluster - which is to say, people often present with several paraphilias. The factor they have in common is that they require the non-consensual participation of others, whether that be exhibitionism, voyeurism, etc.

lassof · 13/05/2022 16:00

pointythings · 13/05/2022 15:51

I agree, and what I find really disturbing is this instant association of someone who looks a certain way with paedophilia. That's quite a shocking leap/assumption to make. I ran into a group of Broneys in 2016 - or strictly speaking, adult My Little Pony fans, because some were female. They were definitely pretty out there, but they were completely harmless and unthreatening. And would definitely have been up for the eponymous tights.

And not all Snag advertising is as extreme as the one posted - many are alternative fashion, but not nearly all.

Lastly, Better Tights don't have nearly the range of colours and prints that Snag do so I'll stick with Snag, thanks. While continuing to believe that there has to be a better way to manage the trans debate than the utterly polarised views that currently dominate.

I find any sexualising of children, either directly via images of children themselves in sexualised positions and clothing, or adults dressed as children in a sexualised way, to be inappropriate and disturbing. How about we have some nice adverts of adults dressed in school uniforms? Oh no, we can't, because the Advertising Standards Authority doesn't allow symbols of youth to be used in a sexualised way. Boring old ASA spoiling everyone's sexy time.

Butteryflakycrust83 · 13/05/2022 16:02

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 15:50

@Butteryflakycrust83 - spell it out for me?

Would a comma help?

Their custom will come from mainly fat, young women with alternative fashion style, who will be much more liberal in their political views".

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I honestly think someone who comes online banging on about brainwashing and accusing strangers of paedophilia is quite unwell themselves. :(

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 16:09

@Butteryflakycrust83 - no not really.

DomesticatedZombie · 13/05/2022 16:10

Kink/fetish/paraphilias are all associated with each other. These can be relatively unproblematic, or they can be serious issues that interfere with a person's life and/or cross into illegal non-consensual activities.

We've seen a lot of talk over hte past couple of decades about kink-shaming, and 'pride' wrt fetishes, kink, etc. If within a safe/sane/consensual framework, some kinks/paraphilias can be contained and harm nobody.

However, there is a LOT of naivety about things like BDSM and kink, the idea that it is ALWAYS harmless is obviously fallacious. Predators and damaged and vulnerable people will all be attracted to this type of activity.

Of course, with sexual attraction to non-consensual activity, always going to be a drive to push boundaries and test limits. 'Queering' in recent years has come to mean deliberately removing and destabilising 'norms' and/or boundaries, which equates exactly to removing safeguarding and social conventions which tend to protect more vulnerable people.

When people are consistently attacked for asking questions, raising concerns, describing their own discomfort or anxiety, it's a good indication that we are in a dangerous place.

Within the BDSM scene there was a long tradition of respect for consent. This seems to be being eroded. This is dangerous.

This isn't to say that any one person wearing unicorn dungarees and cuddling soft toys is necessarily dangerous. But it's sensible to observe societal movements and tendencies and notice red flags. The red flags here aren't even the bloke in the romper. They're the people slagging off women for calling the alarm. And those people themselves aren't necessarily doing it deliberately or consciously.

But they are providing a useful service for people like Stephonknee Wolscht (take care if you google said person's name/website), just as Aimee Challenor provides a useful service for people like Aimee's husband.

Butteryflakycrust83 · 13/05/2022 16:10

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 16:09

@Butteryflakycrust83 - no not really.

Oh well.

Dianaofthelakeofshiningwaters · 13/05/2022 16:10

Still struggling to see the logic behind how being young and fat equates to having much more liberal views. Wasn't aware that your weight and age had any bearing on your political views.

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