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Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: Ce n'est pas bon de faire du lèche-vitrines avec de l'argent en poche

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botemp · 19/02/2020 19:34

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botemp · 21/04/2020 12:26

I think Bani is referring to the rather mundane parking threads (with diagrams) on here that are ridiculously popular for reasons I'll never understand, then again, I never clicked on one.

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Redandblue11 · 21/04/2020 13:46

That is hilarious Bo, I had no idea !!
I am obviously missing a whole new side of mn out there!

botemp · 21/04/2020 15:04

I dunno Red, I've always assumed it's cul de sac curtain twitching woes of she put her wheelie bin next to my car! Maybe we're missing out on all sorts of other excitement.

Right another day, another granny, another bargain. Bought this Cefinn shirt for €4.78 including shipping and costs, it's still retailing at £170 Shock It has quite an interesting detail at the back with the zipper. It'll be good for video calls, roll necks tend to be.

I'm beginning to feel a bit like a carpet bagger now though. Or is it pandemic profiteer. Meh, could be worse, I could be a flash trader.

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ToEllewithIt · 21/04/2020 17:59

Where are you finding all these bo? Back later / tomorrow with some more considered comments!

botemp · 21/04/2020 18:31

Vinted, Elle, it's currently blocked off from the other European markets so my algorithm is very different than usual. The Dutch market is very much trying for quick sales for low prices while the other markets tend to be much more about negotiating and higher priced items. I'm a bit baffled though, for a couple of euros I'm not sure I'd be bothered with photographing (and it has to be photographed on otherwise they're inundated with requests for such pics) and then uploading, managing questions and packaging and posting when it finally sells.

Vestiaire is apparently making record sales at the moment in contrast, it's an interesting read as it touches upon the consumer shift surrounding the notion of value and I was somewhat under the impression it wasn't doing that well. Maybe that's just my experience of how crap the app can be for periods of time Confused

Not of similar discount calibre but Humanoid is currently having a flash sale and the prices are quite good except on the one barely a dress I'm liking. You have to sign up here and then they'll send you a link and a login. It's a good brand for basics with a flattering drape but they do really have a Northern European woman in mind when designing, tall and sizing is generous.

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banivani · 21/04/2020 18:44

YES PLEASE I’ll be back with more later

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botemp · 21/04/2020 18:58

All these be 'back laters' is giving me flashbacks to nights out with flakey friends...

Here is the 'barely a dress' dress I'm coveting but I'm not too fond of the opening at the front for wearing it out of the house, could never bike with it and apparently the fabric is slightly transparent too Confused Still want it.

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ToEllewithIt · 21/04/2020 19:22

I got a pair of Humanoid trousers in Envoy. Sadly it was directly post partum and I was thinner than I am now so a sort of loose ease has been replaced with more of a sexy jogger vibe in the bum. It’s not really the look I’m after though!

That not a dress is truly lovely, properly pope scandalising though.

We have no Vinted here. I checked the UK one and Equipment stuff is ambitiously priced. There’s 40% off on the official US site so I may but the bullet and replace my cream having it sent to my sister. There are some new pocketless cuts I’m not familiar with.

I’m not surprised Vestiaire is doing well. I’ve just attained proffered seller status preens. I usually use my consignment store to skip the hassle of photographing etc, but with lockdown have been listing myself. I used the proceeds for the green linen trousers. That’s kind of recycling, right?

How was the honey and co sea breed? I keep meaning to try. I’m impressed that you make arancini from scratch botemp. I only bother when I have leftovers. It sounds delicious. I’m trying to think of something impressive that can be BBQd for the weekend.

botemp · 21/04/2020 19:42

I can't make up my mind if I like 'barely a dress' or the one from Gimaguas better, they're sort of the same thing.

Arancini is in the freezer made from leftovers a while back, hence pumpkin. It's actually from barley rather than rice, it goes quite nicely with the pumpkin as it's a bit nuttier.

We haven't had the sea bream yet but I can't seem to source seam bream atm. Closest thing was red mullet but I wasn't sure how well that would marry together. I've ordered sea bass instead but won't get it until the weekend. A whole sea bass is quite nice on a BBQ and I will do shameful things for a well grilled lobster with preserved lemon mayo on the side. Weather looks crap for the weekend here though.

I have a few of the pocketless cuts they fit the same as the slim signature, I prefer the ones with interesting double cuffs but they can get in the way. Yoox and the Outnet sometimes have good prices on Equipment but not as useful if you're looking for something specific. I actually ordered an Equipment shirt from Yoox pre non-essential lockdown in Italy but they were running behind so I'm still waiting on it for really long now. I keep forgetting I bought it 🤦

Ooh excited about green linen trousers, the Lou Lou ones right?

Bani are you familiar with Sissel Edelbo? It's all upcycled silk saris for not crazy money if I'm getting my DKK conversion right from memory, especially the sale section with an extra 20% off.

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botemp · 21/04/2020 19:47

Haha autocorrect really doesn't like sea bream, I had a bit of trouble figuring out what Elle meant initially (I was wondering what sea bread she was on about) and now my AC is obsessed with seams Grin

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banivani · 21/04/2020 22:22

I can’t believe Red
has never read
a parking thread.

(I am ridiculously pleased with the above.)

Look, it’s not as entertaining as people claim, but it’s not as boring as you’d think. It’s an insight into British culture. It’s an insight into the entitlement of car owners.

Bo I’m loving your takedown of Rosamen B but I have to say recommending Sissel Edelbo in the next breath is verging on hypocrisy 😉 Did you read the description of the Sissel fashionista? But thank you all the same, I’ll keep them on my watch list, some of the fabrics were gorgeous and I’m always up for wafting in a kimono. And I am astounded at your current shopping finds 😮 Oh to be a size 34 (and Dutch)! The Cefinn is lovely, so versatile. And I loved Humanoid but I could never afford it 😢😢😢

Buy the barely there dress, go on. I’ll be over here buying shares in safety pins 😚

botemp · 22/04/2020 06:49

You're going to have to expand what exactly is so entertaining in these parking threads Bani, they still sound terribly mundane, diagram or no diagram. And how is it an insight into British society, IME car owners are entitled assholes the world over. Kudos on the rhyming though, it's excellent.

for the record I didn't recommend Sissel E, I was just wondering if you were familiar with them since all you Scandis know each other Wink they'd just popped into my inbox as a local boutique is selling them. I've now read their description of the Sissel fashionista... Ehm let's not cackle too loudly because we'll draw the attention of the MN SPAG police and they'll work themselves up too much frothing over the technicalities of that statement and laughing at people whose first language isn't English isn't very nice but at the very least they should know how to use a spacing tool. It's been a while since I've read dross of that fanciful calibre. And it just continued on and on 😱

Yes, safety pins might be in order. I don't know, it seems like a monumentally ill advised thing to consider but it's not like I'm leaving the house much and if I do it's not like there's many people out. Actually that's a lie, it's getting busier on the streets again. Children are going back to primary school in May (an audible collective sound of relief was heard when that was announced yesterday). Also the dentists are resuming normal service again, I'm somehow weirdly looking forward to a dentist's appointment now Confused

I've been nosing on Cos again, I'm expecting they'll open up their shops again soon-ish here so I'll hold off ordering anything but I really like these trousers to go with my new Ceffinn shirt. I'm hit and more miss with trousers at Cos so I'm anticipating a terrible fit but I'm just enjoying dreaming of said outfit combo. These silk trousers look like something you'd like Bani, though now knowing the price of silk I'm curious how Cos is keeping prices so low. Also saw this dress but it pales in comparison to the 'barely a dress' with it being all appropriate and modest, has an interesting back though and had me wondering if it would look good back to front too.

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botemp · 22/04/2020 06:50

And the back.

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banivani · 22/04/2020 08:38

I am very put off by frothy nonsense like that from a shop, so while the prices are fair (esp on sale! with extra offer!) I may not be buying from Sissel, poor woman. Unfortunately the French are terrible for it but if it's in French it's sort of bearable.

Car owners are indeed entitled arses the world over (I am one nowadays so I'm getting there), but there is something extra entertaining when you get that combined with the uniquely British (more specifically English I think really) idea that they are conflict-avoiders - mates, you have no idea - and a whole country designed based on everyone driving but no houses built with parking spaces.

I really like that Cos dress, it's very wearable. Since I am much older than you and have bigger breasts I appreciate that. The not-there-dress is lovely but it's more art and show. I've seen those trousers and they're both nice, but I've gone off Cos trousers. You're right, they never fit me properly. I'm not going to look at them any more. I have more luck with Arket or bog standard H&M even.

In my town two big clothes shops have filed for bankruptcy and one local shoe shop that has been in business since the 19th century. I won't miss the clothes shops (it was inevitable, they had no market niche at all any more). The shoe shop is a shame, but they didn't market themselves well either tbh. :/

botemp · 22/04/2020 08:53

^Breast stealth boaster HmmWink

True, modern urban planning in the UK is especially shit. I've always thought the conflict avoiding in the UK/England is a class thing rather than a national characteristic. The better you are at restraining, the better off you are until it reaches the extremes (on both sides) and they just don't give a shit and get on with it and piss everyone off, but they'll never say a word about it.

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banivani · 22/04/2020 12:52

I'll let the Brits comment on that Grin.

By the way, I was thinking about Stuff Dutch People Like a while ago and while trying to remember the name of it I found this:
www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/dutch-culture-brutally-honest-people

Comments? Wink Grin

XingMing · 22/04/2020 15:44

Modern urban planning in the UK is indeed shit. Older towns and terraces were built before families could afford one car, let alone one per resident: that's our problem in a small village built higgledy-piggledy, and no garages.

Modern estate housing is a crime to be laid squarely at the door of the big residential developers who prefer to roll property out as cheaply as possible with a cookie cutter model owing only the faintest debt to any local vernacular, using flat land even land in flood plains and have vast landbanks which they hold and dole out in niggardly tranches to maximise profit.

Urban planning is either car-centric, so the traffic flow is decent, but pedestrians risk their lives to cross roads or, increasingly, car-phobic but focused on out of town development with inadequate transport provision. And most town centres take an absolutely craven approach to big brand retailers allowing their brand/marque identity to ride roughshod over the historic fabric of the original buildings. My DM lives in Banbury which was, only 25 years ago, a charming ancient Oxfordshire market town. Since she moved there, the centre has been submerged in shopping centres, housing developments, industrial parks and the motorways and ringroads to support a vast surge of economic progress. The population has doubled, and it's not until you lift your eyes above street level that you see what it once looked like. There are hundreds of handsome, elegant and faintly eccentric buildings above the acres of plate glass and plastic fascias.

I don't know the Netherlands very well so will refrain from comment on brutal honesty. On my sporadic visits, I have observed that customer service can be fairly brusque, even offhand.

botemp · 22/04/2020 16:37

Hmm, I'm hardly an unbiased observer but that thrillist article doesn't ring very true to me. Yes we're forthright and don't tolerate things being dressed up well and appreciate honesty over platitudes but it's not as extreme as made out to be. What I do think happens is that it amplifies in translation because (I think I've mentioned this previously) our grasp of English isn't really that great the language is just familiar. Since everyone tells us it is so good we're never encouraged to improve it, so it's a combination of forthright in a limited word capacity that's utilising words that resemble Dutch ones that don't necessarily have the same meaning in English = blunt or rude depending on delivery.

Customer service was pretty bad here for some time on par with what I experienced in London the last time I was there (just uninterested or dismissive) but it's improved here at least in the last 10-15 yrs mostly due to foreign investment in retail but most people are horrified by it and really look aghast if there's someone greeting you at the door like in most American shops.

We also don't wish death by cancer on everyone, we just add (although it's hardly done and no longer considered ok) it to swearwords to amplify them eg. cancer cunt (except we pretty much use male genital bits for swearing exclusively). Typhoid is still considered ok to amplify as it's no longer a common deadly disease, so that gets used mostly, albeit rarely, it really is reserved for extreme anger. Swearing generally not done very much, I never swear in Dutch but have no issue doing it in English Confused

There is a contingent of (mostly white youngish men, socially conservative and economically liberal) who are very cultish about saying it like it is, but you have those everywhere now with the rise of populist politics. Boris Johnson calling veiled women postboxes is an example of that. We think they're just dickheads too and it's nothing to do with the Dutch identity but it does seem to get conflated by those people which feeds into nationalism.

I do feel we're encouraged from a young age to disassociate criticism from ourselves, so if someone is saying you look fat in something it means they're blaming the item of clothing, they're not insinuating you're fat, they're mad on your behalf at the item of clothing. It is a sort of care, at work it's an acknowledgement that the person making the criticism is trying to examine their part in something not going right, it's a form of forensics and assessing where they went wrong. We're also taught from a young age that what someone says about you is usually nothing to do with you but a reflection of themselves, it is an odd form of exposure/sharing and we're generally not voluntarily forthcoming on that front.

I do think it is mostly about not encouraging untruths though, we're not that old of a society and we don't have a resonance of mythicism and esotericism stemming from an ancient culture like other European nations and treat it with a heavy dose of scepticism. Religion has been dogmatic whenever it's had any hold but merchants have mostly ruled the roost and left their marks subsequently.

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Floisme · 23/04/2020 08:26

Good Lord I'm away for a day and come back to poetry, urban planning and national characteristics. I see I will have to catch up. In the meantime, here's a Haiku (I think):

Red has never seen
A parking thread, which must give
Red the blues, surely?

I wanted n'est ce pas instead of surely but there were too many syllables.

Very quickly - one of my favourite local shops (and which I'm praying won't go under) stocks Humanoid. Really interesting stuff although it rarely comes down to my price level.

Back to work now. I hate, hate, hate working from home: all the tedium and stress of work and none of the fun. And I miss my coffee shop.

botemp · 23/04/2020 08:44

Sorry, Mistress Flo, we'll behave, promise 🤞🙈

Don't you have a private Slack channel set up with your coworkers for catch-ups and messing about? Give your OH a funny moustach, a beanie and an apron and rebrand him as a barista and put on some dodgy world music. If you squint it's almost like a coffee shop.

Céline culottes came in last night but unfortunately they went straight to the post office within an hour. They're more Bermuda short than culottes and they just made me look like a stumpy garden gnome... Cefinn shirt should be in today, the equipment shirt is taking her sweet time to post.

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XingMing · 23/04/2020 14:11

Very disappointing on the Celine culottes bo. Stumpy garden gnome Grin is not a Parisienne look.

The Saint & Sofia parcel arrived and is back out the door as soon as I have wheels to get it returned. The slouchy trousers are an okay shape (but don't thrill) and the fabric feels horrid against my skin. The red sweater is supple organic cotton and the colour makes my heart sing, but it is huge. Think tent. So that's an exchange for the same thing, but two sizes smaller. The finish on both is good.

Apologies for yesterday's rant on the urban landscape. It does make me cross though.

botemp · 23/04/2020 15:15

Well I've gone from stumpy garden gnome to Maleficent in Cefinn. It's coming up small for the size (it's a size up for me so fits just right), narrow in the body but broad on the shoulders. Not sure how that would work for most body types.

Bit of a strange fabric feel but I know the whole idea behind the brand was workwear that you could easily wash and doesn't crease/need ironing. Really like the shoulder detail and the swooping pine that leads to it, hadn't spotted that on the model images. It could have gone a bit Victoriana/modest with the mock neck but it feels sharper than that. I'm pleasantly surprised overall, I think it will go well with my Dior skirt as it has a similar feminine but sharp feel but it's already packed away with the winter stuff.

I very much appreciated the rant Xing, just form a professional POV. The UK is known as problematic when it comes to urban planning (not just the cars and vernacular but also the social distribution) but you rarely get the personal experience in more academic writings and I fear they'd construe your objections into a fear of glass buildings as if it's merely an aesthetic rejection rather than a rejection of what that aesthetic represents in that landscape.

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quirkychick · 23/04/2020 15:23

Oh, lots to catch up with.

Grin at wearing navy trousers topless, I have a teenager, I can only imagine the outrage!

You magazine have a whole lot of independent shops that would benefit from people shopping from them. So, I don't think we need worry about killing grannies yet.

I noticed today, several houses had boxes of things outside they were giving away. Maybe it's because previous days have been windy and today is just hot.

The thing about some nationalities appearing ruder in English is interesting. I think bo is right, it can just be poor translation, missing the nuances. Also, between English and American English this can happen too.

XingMing · 23/04/2020 16:55

The Cefinn blouse is gorgeous on you bo. It's done reasonably well as a workwear brand and is much-lauded by the fashion press.

Glad someone enjoyed my thoughts on retailers' urban vandalism desecration. I do love glass buildings where they have been thoughtfully integrated with their context, especially if the reflections created have been considered sensitively (doubling the delight of a handsome facade or lending a modern gloss to a borrowed view) and where the transparency is used to soften/disguise the bulk of an angular block.

Floisme · 24/04/2020 09:04

Oh I enjoyed your rant immensely Xing. When it's post-war/60s urban planning I'm sympathetic, monstrous as much of it was, because they had a massive rehousing and rebuilding job on their hands, and I can also understand the desire then to literally sweep away the old world and build a better one. Not sympathetic to the more recent stuff when people have had the time and the education to figure it out. And yes, building housing estates on flood plains - still going on for fucks fucking sake.

bo I think I have some Cos trousers like that or very similar. I was moaning about them at some point, but only because they're pure wool, so far too warm unless you can master the art of cropped trousers with boots and wear in winter. But the shape is great. Hope they fit.

I like the Cefinn shirt. They're always sending me catalogues, as are The Fold and Winser but I just have no call for that kind of workwear now, not even if I carry on working.

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