Royal style: Monochrome Megs is back in town!

[QueenOfTheAndals]

new thread!

"You're blaming employees, not management" yes! And no one is obliged to stay in a job that is probably detrimental to their mental health. Just because he had the (mis)fortune to be born into the family, doesn't mean he needs to do what they want him to.

Only love can set you free.

"You're blaming employees, not management" grin yes! And no one is obliged to stay in a job that is probably detrimental to their mental health.

It all a bit six and two threes - generally speaking it's the done thing to notify your boss before you tell the world you've quit your job.

I don’t think the RF have been mean to both H&M , I think they’ve showed them support when needed, Charles and Kate specially always seemed engaged and pleasant to them both.

but what about both H&M? Can’t think of a single Show of support to any RF,
I knew something was wrong from the polo pictures , no interaction between both families.

I do think that they were both rebellious in a very traditional stuffy establishment and that is the root of the whole issue. They easily get hurt/offended and start imagining things.

I wonder if they will post a birthday message to the DoC on Instagram or Twitter today?

If there is anything to criticise here, the person coming off badly is QE.

I cannot believe anyone thinks this.

"t all a bit six and two threes - generally speaking it's the done thing to notify your boss before you tell the world you've quit your job."

Except there's no suggestion they didn't. The accusation is that the palace didn't know about the announcement, not that the Palace didn't know about what Harry and Meghan wanted to do .

And as someone who had agreed to leave a job due to a wanker boss but who then wasn't allowed to tell anyone I was leaving, potentially detrimentally to my own reputation, I have a lot of sympathy for M and H if they've been trying to get this sorted.

[having said that, I ALSO think their PR is aimed at people like them and not the average man in the street. And I'm not sure if that's a purposeful strategy because ultimately they want to be big in the USA or if it's a sign of their inability to understand the reality of the UK public and media]

And generally speaking, only poor management types get the problem of people notifying the world that they've quit instead of talking to management.

I was going to say it's pointless to debate how much the Court knew anyway, but of course it isn't pointless - it just doesn't belong on this thread. I am a hypocrite, I know.

Re your last paragraph @banivani, you and me both!

I have to agree with Bani - I don't think QE is doing so well currently. Andrew is floating around like nothing is wrong and being protected. Meanwhile Meghan and Harry are out in the wilderness. At the very least, even if Kate and William haven't been directing their staff to mess with them, it's clear that leaks within their court, and at BP have been actively briefing against meghan and harry and the queen has apparently had no ability or desire to stop that.

For me, the Andrew thing made me really question her. And this is just another element.

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It's all very war of the roses or something, but without the, you know, actual killing. The UK needs to work out what it wants.

The overall feeling is one of disappointment but perhaps not surprise. Discussing them in a positive way from now on is going to be a tad tricky. Always, their selfish behaviour is going to lingering in the back of people’s mind like a bad taste. And yes, the circumstances are different from those if the Duke of Windsor but there are strong parallels, too.

Bling do you think they will Lose their appeal after all this and just end up like like David and Wallis? Living off wealthy American friends?
Harry does seem very stingy , didn’t her refuse to pay for flight tickets for one of his girlfriends?

The overall feeling is one of disappointment but perhaps not surprise. Discussing them in a positive way from now on is going to be a tad tricky. Always, their selfish behaviour is going to be found lingering in the back of people’s minds like a bad taste. And yes, the circumstances are different from those of the Duke of Windsor but there are strong parallels, too.

Sooverthemill I’m not sure what else Edward does, but a couple of years ago he decided to visit all the real tennis clubs in the world in a year or something. #helpful

I think Edward actually does a fair bit judging by the Court Circular. He's long redeemed himself for the Royal Knockout!

I stand corrected then Queen!

@queenoffarles - no , I don't think they will. I think the point is that they're saying they don't care about public that are served by Royal Reporters. I suspect they'll move away from being funded by the Duchy of Cornwall, start a major charity with themselves as CEO and President, probably on a medium sized salary. On top of that one or both of them will accept paid work in the form of speaking roles etc. They'll fundraise massively for their foundation which they will then be very involved in how it puts out its funds (think Bill and Melinda Gates).

And throughout that, they'll have the support of most people in North America (USA and Canada) and a huge swathe of the UK population who have a more modern view. The old Royal Reporters and the forelock tugging types who are outraged that a 30 something grandson doesn't spend christmas with his Grandmother are not going to be in their sphere any more and their view, I think, will be that as those people aren't the ones who help them raise money and change the world, and as they're not accepting money from those people, they're not interested.

And I totally agree with Bani about poor management leads to this type of event. I've always been sympathetic to the queen not wanting to step down but I'm losing patience with her now.

Blimey, at this rate there'll be no need for a slimmed down RF - there won't be enough left to slim it down! 😆

I think @BlingLoving has got it spot on.

They want to be more effective than their current roles allow. Meghan has always been active and hardworking, Harry needs a purpose after life in the army.

There is nothing in a role like Bing envisions that doesn't mean they can't take some part in the royal family.

writeroyalty.com/2019-by-the-numbers-royal-work-round-up-part-1/

This shows that Edward is 4th hardest working royal. So he does a fair bit.

The Queen disappointed me with her reaction to Andrew. Putting him in the car with her.
Said shedloads without saying anything.
But her outfits are lovely.
It's a right Royal mess at the moment.
Q, PC, PW and PH need to get together and sort it.
I feel H is distancing himself from friends and family and that's not good.

Oops meant to add "What Megan wants, Megan gets." Is this quote fact or fiction ?

Wow well I've just had a read of some of the comments on the Instagram post and honestly they are repulsive. I'm not surprised they've made this decision when that's what they're faced with. Whatever your feeling about them, what has happened here to her is bullying, plain and simple and I can understand their want to step away from that.

I'm looking forward to having a look at her clothes ones she's wearing them free of the restrictions she has during Royal duties at the moment. I know she's not exactly going to be out and about dressed inappropriately but I bet we see a bit more fashion and glamour from her now!

I agree there is an element of bad management to all of this. Even if the Sussex's jumped the gun a bit the truth of which we will never no.

Surely letting on to the public you were caught unaware looks at best incompetent and at worst a bit like throwing someone under the bus!

Which is all only being compounded by the fact that the social media accounts are all starting up this morning by wishing Kate a happy birthday (fair enough) while there is complete silence towards the Sussex's. It only goes to fuel the rift rumours which reflects poorly on the 'royal family' brand which is bad all round.