Les Parisiennes des Mamansnet: Too much good taste can be very boring. Independent style, on the other hand, can be very inspiring.

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Lovers of Parisian style and fashion with a conscious mindset and lots of chatter in between.

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Favoured Parisian addresses:

Second Hand Shops

Outlets

Favoured London addresses:

Charity Shops, Dress Agencies, and Outlets

Favoured NYC addresses:

Consignment shops, Vintage, and Restaurants

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Plumo you say? I've got their catalogue in the bathroom I think...

Liking the fishermen trousers, and somewhat in awe of your hair, quirky.

I get trousers taken in quite often. I actually often prefer it to finding something fitting in my size as I like the little extra room in the lower stomach. It's cheaper where I am €4 if they can do it on the centre back, €6 if it's two back seams/darts. It only ever gets more expensive if there's lining involved/a zipper needs to be moved.

I see your 30°, quirky and raise you 36° last night, it dropped to about 33° around midnight 🥵 never thought I'd be so excited about perpetual rain (and cooler temps) coming this weekend.

4 Euros? I'm been had aren't I? That's another incentive to start learning to sew.

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flo these are a few years ago, but irrc they had them this year in black and blue, I think they were under £30.

bo, thank you, my hair is still wet from the shower there, before the humidity frizz!

bo, the heat is grim, isn't. At least it was 26° on the beach yesterday, but rose steadily as we drove inland, the car registered 43° at one point, but it does tend to exaggerate!

Quirky, yes, I'd assumed it was still wet. The colour is very striking, I'd caught bits of it in other photos of you but hadn't seen it in full before. I have to say I quite like the humidity frizz when it's this hot. I find it completely unnatural for anyone to have unaffected hair in this weather and assume they sold their soul to the devil for it. It always goes quite wispy on me, which I quite like as I usually wear it up.

I always get mine shortened at the same time so that may make it cheaper, Flo? Apparently it's quite an easy and quick job so they don't charge much for it. Taking a trouser in for length usually ranges from €6-10 so they're generally quite cheap, I feel.

There's almost no wind so it just feels so much hotter, quirky. Even near the water it's scorching. Yesterday I escaped to a blissfully cool museum after my dermatology appointment in the morning. I think I might seek out something similar again today although I'm embracing being lethargic so the idea of moving from my spot isn't all that appealing. Thankfully tonight should be a little cooler so less chance of broken sleep.

Well, I'm no Aunt Larry, but I went to Lviv, and completely fell in love with it.

Off to catch up...

bo my hair is definitely a humidity barometer (if that makes sense)! It used to be extremely dark and now has lots of white/silver, but thank you.

Today, I escaped into an air conditioned shopping centre with some chores to do. The heat really hit me when we came out. A museum would have been nicer.

I see we are talking frizzy hair now, mine has gone crazy , not lovely like *quirky”’s .
The Chloe trousers bo I am only looking at them in small phone screen but it looks out of proportion, cannot put my finger on what but as I said I am trying to make up the real fit in my tiny phone scren.
Oh, we were in Venice not Rome. We have Rome in our horizon though, for spring hopefully.
We had the loveliest time in Venice of course very touristy but so charming. The city is deteriorating and you see it in places like inside San Marco Basilica and my ds kept asking me how long it will last before is under water.
Now we are in the Adriatic in a charming place outside Trieste. We are mainly spending our days in the water , snorkelling hours and hours.
Yesterday in Trieste the locals seek refuge under the pedestrian areas with lined trees and cafes.
Here a photo of my cover up from 120 lino. I had it for years, I would love to find another reasonable priced linen cover up while here.

red that is my hair before the frizz . It's now in a very messy bun, as it's so hot. We went to Venice pre dc in October and the mosaic floor of the basilica was under a lot of water then, but Venice was very beautiful.

Red, feel free to give the deets on the place you’re staying at. My ideal travelling is by personal recommendation so I never get it wrong.

Well getting off the plane in Sweden was like going on holiday - this is where the heatwave was. 🙄 I’m glad we missed the 40 degrees Paris was hit by after we left but some more heat while we were in Sopot would’ve been nice.

Tevas look good! Maybe I should peek at them. 🤔 for next year.

I too feel the proportions on the photo with the Chloé trousers looks off somehow- is it just the photo angle or the I’ll fitting shirt?

Mirror over camera every time.

Just realised I brought sunscreen on the plane without putting it in the little plastic baggie - security my arse.

Speaking of arse I didn’t get the trousers. Went back and tried them on - spoke loads of the fifty words of Polish I know [preens] - but the fit was more off than just adjusting one seam so I didn’t love them enough. But I love the shape, and luckily it’s one Cos tends to stock so sooner or later they will be mine. I need pockets as well for my phone to count my steps now that I’m “reducing” as they said in the early 1900s.

Such a shame all photos are so small on mumsnet, so hard to see what you’re wearing properly. I obv love the Thai trousers. Something I saw three times in Paris and once in Sopot actually (but hideous colour and pattern) was trousers that are like the silk Toteme ones Bo got before. No side seams done up so the trousers flap open on the legs naturally? I quite fancy a pair now.

In Sopot I wandered into an expensive boutique selling clothes in Italian silk. I saw a lovely pair f paisley patterned trousers, looked at the price tag and pondered 1290 złoty as if I would for a brief moment. Then i sauntered out in my Mango dress , fooling nobody.

quirky, you should offer your humidity detection services to a local museum. Will save them a bob and leave you nice and cool. It's thankfully cooled down a bit, and none of the promised rain.

It's the ill fitting shirt. It's very boxy and turning boobs stomach into a little box. The trouser proportions are fine in RL. If they weren't I wouldn't have expressed I was pleased with them. I am also getting used to my new phone camera as it does seem to go a bit wide upwards and it shows a lot in cramped dressing rooms.

Lviv sounds positively exotic, Catherine, well exotic to me anyhow, I've been almost everywhere but have always avoided Eastern Europe for unknown reasons. Though did go to Tbilisi at the end of last year and that was really lovely. Although not sure if that's still considered EE.

Ah Venice is indeed great. Much nicer than Rome IMO and I love the Veneto region in general. Much prefer it in the off season, my favourite time of year is February when it's all misty and gloomy. Heading there in a few weeks as well to see the Biennale. I would have told you to get a Scartosso at a fritolin instead, a paper cone filled with deliciously light fried fish that somehow doesn't go soggy even when you get to the last bit.

How much is a zloty?

A złoty times 2.7 gives you a Swedish crown, and theres 11 crowns to a euro

Around €300 then? Welcome to the 'pining for expensive silk trousers you will hardly ever wear' gang then. Our watch begins and all that

I did see a similar pair to my Toteme trousers at one of the Zara brands. Possibly Pull and Bear, in a linen/cotton mix. Didn't have time to view it properly and it was gone when I next passed the shop. But they are really nice and breezy you can just can't bike for shit with them unless you have elastic hairbands at the ankles.

I knooooow. I really love wearing my Arket silk trousers but the pattern is difficult ... I should pop by Hennes and see if they reduced the ones they had any. And thanks for bringing me to my senses - trousers you can’t cycle in are perhaps not the best choice for my lifestyle 😇 (I will still look - Pull and Bear you say?)

I don't know if I can describe Lviv well but it was magic and charming - lots of different influences all coming together in one very beautiful city and not too many tourists. I was there for work so was shown around by colleagues who live there. Lots of lovely coffee, food, and cakes. Surprisingly I managed to lose two kg while I was there...The colleagues laughed and said it was the grechka. Workplace turned out to be very casual and the weather was not too hot so mainly I just wore variations on jeans/T-shirts, dressed up or down with boots/necklace as appropriate.

There is definitely a lot of interest in fashion but few brands; most of the brands start up in Kyiv which is obviously miles away, and the brands that are in Lviv are apparently expensive, and sometimes use cheaper materials than they would for stock in other countries. Some of my colleagues would go to Poland for shopping purposes. Makes for a lot of individuality and personal style.

Interesting, when I googled Lviv it reminded me faintly of Vienna, so funny to hear it's all cakes and coffee too. Hmm, I eat buckwheat for breakfast every morning and I don't think it's the secret to weight loss. Don't eat it as porridge though, more like overnight oats. Do they make it with a whisked egg or is it just like porridge oats?

Kiev has been on my list of places to visit for a while, I've heard the fashion scene is quite interesting there too. I also want one of those traditional Ukrainian dresses like Vita Kin does (but without the VK price tag) to swan around in. They'd make for good beach coverups too.

Well thanks to Bani I went snooping on the P&B site and found the trouser I had seen. I think, it was quite a while ago and they seem to have several versions of them but I remember it being black and a linen mix. I've put in an order for two sizes as they indicated I needed an S even though I'm usually an XS at Zara. Considering Zara sizes aren't all that consistent I figured best try both. I think these will actually be cycle friendly as they look to be open up to knee level. Also tossed in an interesting looking maxi dress but I'm somewhat convinced it all can't be that great considering how low the prices are. Got 10% off with newsletter sign up too. Should be here Wednesday. Site is very different in look and feel to the shop, I'm not quite sure who their target audience is.

I do not have a lot of time for a catch up as we are off to Miramare Castle as today has cooled down allowing us to leave the water.

But could not go without mentioning that the maxi dress is hitting the spot for me Bo . Is Zara?
Reminiscent for me of Mexican, Bolivian , Russian , Mongolian type cultures... off I go dreaming away.
Chao for now.

Ciao I should have said
Chau is Argentinean

I tried on a dress a bit like that in an upmarket hippy shop a few months ago, when I was looking for wedding guest outfits. The main difference was that most of the embroidery was on the bodice rather than the sleeves. It was beautiful but I felt like an elderly Heidi and, while I have little truck with age appropriate dressing, I do draw the line at children's fictional characters.

And now you've got me thinking about it all over again....

Lviv (or Lwów as i think it’d still be styled in this house 😉 ) looks very beautiful and interesting! And interesting to hear about personal style. I am very sweeping in my generalisations now, but my opinion on for example polish style is that it tends to be quite samey. Lots of pressure on women to not let themselves go and to look slim and attractive, but a hardness about the finish, very blunt fringes and sharp hair dyes for example.

I’ve been in Pull and Bear twice I think, trailing after my daughters. Nothing in the shop looked like it would fit me and it just wasn’t appealing. I agree the website gives different impression! Checked the size guide and I will not be ordering, seems dicey for my squidgy body haha. Also found the attached trousers which is more Thai fishing trousers and a shape I’m drawn to. Thinking about whether it’d be easy to knock up a pair like the black ones you attached...

More like cooked wholegrains but with butter, every time I ate it. I really like it.