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For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

NEW SERIES:

So You Want To Buy A Retinoid - A Guide

JULY 2018: Sorry, terrible title, I haven't been keeping up but I assume Dr.Sam’s new cleanser will have some fans on here.

The SPF holiday collection . I bought the Vichy and LRP sprays (far right) here.

Also have my pink Biore here.

Unless there are other contenders, you win the shelf porn wars, methinks. I have but the one measly pic, but I did make it with Enid in mind (surely I get bonus points for that).

I did also pass by a shop that made custom skincare with a little lab you could see from the window. Didn't have a proper look inside as I feared being sold to and I'm not really in need of anything, but it was entertaining looking in and watching them work in their lab coats. Think that was on the Rue Madame IIRC, or near it anyhow.

Phwoar! Look at all the lovely bottles! I want everything! Fabulous pics Pups

I'm honoured bo

I'm feeling spendy so it's probably a good thing that I can't reach into the photos. My baskets would be full.

Great photo's Pupsie I recognise Payot and Galenic from TKMaxx.
I've seen Filorgia in M&S where it's quite expensive.
I actually have a wrinkle cream by Filorgia but I found it a bit too rich for me, I think it's probably for quite mature skin.

Great pictures pupsie I love a pharmacy when I’m on holiday. I too have had a filorgia moisturiser tant but didn’t finish it so can’t have been particularly impressed.

I have a style question. I’m after some navy shoes for work I quite like the style of these old shoes in the photo but they’re not quite right now. Has anyone got any ideas please 🤷‍♀️? I don’t want a heel as such but not a flat either.

JDSTER, I think I saw something similar at either Massimo Dutti or Uterque but it was in the sales and I can't see it on either website anymore.

Is it a summer wedge type you're looking for or just a court shoes that aren't too high as there are lots of mid heels out there at the moment?

I have a question for the Hourglass fans, long story short I've got some store credit at Cult Beauty burning a hole in my pocket and am looking at the Hourglass things (amount isn't high enough for free shipping threshold and Hourglass products have a free shipping promo currently). The mascara from the times article is, predictably, sold out so now I'm looking at the little travel size powders. Not really in the market for bronzer or blushes so am looking at the strobe powders, anyone tried any by any chance. The few YouTube videos I saw on it all had very screechy heavily contoured women saying it was sooo natural but it didn't look all that subtle to me... otherwise any other hourglass recs beyond the ambient lighting powders (I can't see myself finding use for those). I used to have their liquid lipstick but it wasn't all that comfy to wear despite the lovely colour.

Thanks bo we don’t have massimo dutti local to me. Maybe mid heel would be ok. If those pesky kids weren’t off school I could have a good shop!

I haven’t tried anything by hourglass so can’t help on that one.

But how many cleansing oils for the face do they have, Pupsie? - my pet peeve being how hard they are to find ;)

Dim light is a nice bronzer but the yellow one is nicest for a candlelit glow.
The key ingredient is fluorphlogopite which is synthetic mica and has a much finer texture to the mined stuff.
It is often in the first couple of ingredients and higher up the list than talc. It creates a smoother less chalky effect. Ysl also use it and I use the very pale ‘bronzing’ powder and it has a really nice blurring effect.

Banivani I didn't look for cleansing oils as I didn't like the couple I've tried. Sorry! There were lots and lots of SPF oils though. Not much help.

As an aside, why don't brands like Cosrx sell in the UK, on say Amazon?

Good question - but there are independent online k-beauty shops in Sweden that sell COSRX so not impossible to find.

CosRX used to be on Amazon and then in one fell swoop all the listings disappeared. But on the positive, Lookfantastic sell the
brand at reasonable prices and they always have 20% off promos going and free shipping. Don't know how quick the shipping is in the UK but they're very quick to get here.

The French don't really do cleansing oils for the face, there are a couple now but it's all very new. Generally, they're hydrophobic and cleansers are of the wipe off sort.

Thanks, Biologi, I'm probably in the minority with this, and perhaps in a few years I'll be more appreciative of it, but I'm not a fan of blurring products. I don't like that hyperreal look on my skin, it's not like with matte products that flatten out the features, it feels odd to me for whatever reason and downright disturbing in photographs.

Hmm maybe I should get myself those ridiculously pricey bath salts instead. Although I haven't dared taken a bath in a really long time. Never thought I'd have an issue finding something to buy at Cult Beauty

Jdster How about these

LF have always been good on delivery in the uk. (Unless they've changed to Hermes recently like so many other companies. They must be cheap.)

I have a very very pale brown small, slightly raised smooth mark on my wrist at the side. It wasn't there a month ago. Asked DH and he doesn't think it's anything to worry about but the words 'age spot' were casually thrown in. He then said it wasn't that but... I beg your bloody pardon?! I'm only 37 ffs. Anyway It's curious so noting it here for possible future reference.

I feel very dried out today. I'm going to use the shower oil and lots of moisturisers now. Also doing footner again later as having bare feet and wearing canvas shoes or sandals hasn't been good for my soles. Roll on Autumn.

I've only recently heard about FootnerEnid -because I've been living under a rock-. I thought I'd do one a week ago, seemed like a good idea to get rid of some dead skin.

Didn't quite realise what the result would be!

How long before I can stop wearing socks with my sandals ?!

Welcome to the footner cult Pickled If you soak your feet in warm/hot water for half an hour each night whilst rubbing them (no peeling anything that doesn't fall off easily.) and don't use any moisturising things on them including shower gels, it should be finished in 1-2 weeks from when it started. Mine is a lot quicker now but I think that's because I've done it a few times. You might only need a few days. Soaking really speeds it up.

About sunscreens: I read this today and it was very interesting. Spoiler alert - it probably isn't, not as much as climate change etc, but those are big problems that are harder to touch.

labmuffin.com/is-your-sunscreen-killing-coral-the-science-with-video/

Is it ok for me to continue posting on this thread? I miss it but unsure if bo's return was because I left or just a coincidence. I don't want to cause an atmosphere so please say if you just want me to sod off...

Lurker, delurking briefly, to ask if any of you have tried other DHC products apart from the Cleansing oil? Specifically the neck essence (mine could use more elasticity) and the collagen boosting ampoules. Both get rave reviews, but none is particularly recent. I'm 62, good skin thanks to my parents, but the clock is ticking and I'd like to slow it down if possible.

Xing, is the Nuface no good on the neck? I'm generally in the camp of supplements are expensive piss and neck creams are unlikely to ever work so I may be a bit coloured on those products. Saying that, the placenta pills and collagen drinks from DHC are very popular in Japan. I'm not sure it's the secret to their eternal youth but at worst you get in a bit of extra protein (with collagen) and I recently smeared amniotic fluid on my face to astonishing results so perhaps ingesting placenta works too

You could have a dig through cosme.net with Google translate to get more recent Japanese reviews for those specific products. Only other DHC product I've used are the cotton buds with olive oil infused in them to touch up eye makeup on the go and they are brilliant (if a little environmentally unfriendly as they're individually wrapped). The blotting papers have their fans too, and the tubing mascara but beyond that I'm not aware of any standout products. They are always eager to sell to you on the brand, so if you contact them through the UK website they may offer you some free samples.

Though realistically for the neck I think clinical treatments may be the most likely to be effective if we're talking non-invasive. Sorry, I've forgotten who the poster on here is and what combination of treatments they were doing (I think the Nuface was part of it to maintain results between treatments) but they were getting good results on the neck. Would be helpful if they chimed in again, otherwise I'll go digging through the thread. Think it was thermage, mesotherapy, full on micro current therapy, or something along those lines.

Hi Xing,I'm not sure if you mean you drink the ampules or spread them on your neck and face but once asked my derm about a collagen drink/supplement they had in the pharmacies here and she said really not worth the money. Might as well eat a steak (or I guess other food to get the protein). The brand here wasn't DHC though.

Bo, amniotic fluid?!!! Where did you get that from? Is it a product that you bought? (Or were you following around heavily pregnant women waiting for their waters to break?! )

LOL Sophie, what would they call that, baby showers are already taken to mean something else, so Vajacials?

No, I had samples from Biologique Recherche for their Vernix Creme/Mask, which is one of two products on the market with amniotic fluid in it, for my own sanity I didn't ask where it came from but I don't believe it's human. It also has a load of other barrier restoring ingredients (ceramides, lipids, etc.) to stimulate Vernix wax to form (that lovely sheen babies are born with) and it did give me lovely baby skin but I'm not 100% convinced it's down to the amniotic fluid just that it gets you into the best barrier health situation possible. I liked it for incidental use, especially if the upcoming winter is going to be arctic, as a mask but it only comes in a giant expensive jar so I'll just be pretending to be really interested in the product and asking them for samples whenever I'm there

amniotic fluid I've found the place where I draw my line when it comes to skincare. Fine with wee (urea) but apparently that's a step too far for me.

Mint Eveyone can post wherever they like. Don't worry about it.