🐌 Fantastic Skincare: Tiny Lovely People who Live in your Phone and Tell You to Buy Frezyderm Velvet Face SPF50

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For those who are taking a peek and wondering what this all about, we mostly discuss a bit of advanced skincare here with a perspective of seeking out the right ingredients (rather than the latest new shiny product and all its empty promises) for our particular skin needs. Distinguishing the acid toners from the actives whilst avoiding the truly unimpressive and harmful ingredients with a hope to achieve a bit of anti-ageing, alleviate irritation and sensitivities with some idle chat in between. Newcomers are always welcome but please note the following:

Questions and asking for help on this thread is encouraged, however, we can’t give you a specific routine to follow and hope it works out for the best. There are no overnight miracles in skincare whether it be in the form of products or techniques. It’s about perseverance, understanding your skin, assessing its needs and responding to that in a diligent manner.

These threads were created to help those who want to learn for themselves. We’re a group of interested and invested skincare nuts happy to offer tea and sympathy and dole out advice. Everyone’s journey with skincare is different, what is universal and binds us is that through actually learning about the different active ingredients it helps us get to know our skin and help us adapt as it will change many times throughout our lives - with seasons, hormonal changes, ageing, genetics etc. It's in everyone's best interests to get to know their skin and to keep reviewing those changes with the confidence that comes from the gathered knowledge here. We really encourage you to spend the time reading through previous threads and linked info sheets that the many contributors have taken the trouble to share.

By no means are we experts, we're only a bunch of amateurs that can only respond by suggesting what we would do in your place, for any severe conditions please seek out professional help.

Ahem, and finally a little note on spending. I'm well aware these threads cause many to reach for their wallets and spend with wild abandon. There can sometimes be a bit of a frenzy surrounding the excitement around a newly discovered product or on the back of great improvements when someone reports back. This is all great, it doesn't however, mean everything that's a sudden miracle for one will be it for you. Usually, it's a light bulb moment for connecting the right skincare ingredient with an individual experiencing a specific problem. Take your time to mull over decisions and question whether it's right for you too. Skincare is highly individual, it's a slow game that should cost mostly in patience, input, education, and perseverance. Please don't make it cost you financially needlessly.

I am very slowly working on consolidating the gathered information from previous threads into easier to read formats but it’s slow going. I would suggest reading thread 1 and at the very least the following info sheets (provided they apply to you):

Where to Start

Basics of an Actives Routine

Skin Types vs. Skin Conditions Info Sheet

Anti-Ageing Info sheet

Adult Acne Info Sheet

Understanding Which Sunscreen(s) to Buy

Do I Really Need to Wear Sunscreen Every Single Day of the Year?

A Damaged Skin Barrier - Now What?

MAY 2018: We’re in the midst of the Frezyderm Frenzy, for the MN bottom line:

www.amazon.co.uk/FREZYDERM-SPF-Velvet-Face-Sunscreen/dp/B007TSU0E2/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?keywords=frezyderm+velvet+suncream&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1526062070&sr=8-1

thisisbeautymart.com/shop/sun-screen-velvet-face-spf50/

Thoughts as always Enid, an absolutely awful waiting game.

mint I’m enjoying beetroot (vacuum packed, pre cooked ones) and feta with salad leaves and a few walnuts thrown on with a bit of balsamic vinegar.
I had a bowl of pasta tonight with salad and avocado and I couldn’t finish the pasta (it was buckwheat if that makes any difference). Since I’ve reduced wheat, a carby type meal like that just makes me feel bloated.

sallie out of interest, how many days do you do IF in a week?

Totally off topic but did anyone watch the programme on BBC 2 last night on heart/lung transplants?

Thanks Olli and JDSTER so do you have the same thing every day??

Absolutely not mint. I eat a lot of houmous with raw veggies on work days. I like scrambled eggs or smoked salmon and a bagel on days off. I will be having beetroot and feta salad tomorrow at work though

enid another hug from another tiny person with a big ❤️ in your phone

I used my TO vit c powder today in the am mixed in with my sea kelp coral under my LRP spf under my Nars TM. Very happy as no oxidisation or weirdness, so thats my new am step.

Lunch today was a very healthy salad of lettuce, tomatoes and chicken. When I got home at 5pm I ate a chunk of baguette and humous followed by a giant waitrose cookie I havent eaten anything since though.

JDSTER I am doing the 16:8 version of IF which is 16 hours fasting and an 8 hour 'window' for eating. I power right through the day fasting and then eat an evening meal followed by a small supper (I'm a night owl so not in bed or asleep early). I aim for 4 days a week as I find it very easy not to eat in work as I'm busy and don't have much time to think about food. But I'm absolutely fine with not eating for longish periods as long as I keep myself well hydrated, but it doesn't suit everyone as can cause shakiness/dizziness and I definitely wouldn't recommend it for anyone with any health issues unless they'd consulted a doctor.

It's popular with the low carb/Keto crowd but I don't low carb, I eat more or less what I want in the evenings just reasonable portions with lots of veg and try to avoid processed stuff. It does actually work really well for me and I find it easy, the trouble is I get out of the habit when I'm travelling/working away (too much unhealthy snacking & eating out) and my weekends are a bit too indulgent as well, so I'm really trying to tighten up and be consistent with it.

Finally caught up. Sorry to hear you're having problems Enid I wish you the best.

Re intermittent fasting, I've started doing 16/8 the last while which as I can't stomach breakfast is relatively easy for me. I'm also low carb which makes it easier meaning I sometimes do 18/6.

I have to send out huge thanks to all of you who've recommended CeraVe on the other thread. I've lost weight recently and my face became much slimmer but all my lines got deeper a lot deeper. All I've added into my routine is CeraVe and I can't believe how smooth it is. Can't wait now to try the Pm one whenever it comes to Boots.

I find breakfast easy, I usually have a plain granola mixed with branflakes or granola with yogurt and fruit, ocassionally it changes. Dinners are fine too, I always cook a balanced meal with the odd naughty dinner. But lunches are a nightmare! I like eating healthy but think if I have salad every day it's just too much of the same thing?!

Lunch for me is usually:-

A ton of chopped mixed peppers, cucumbers and (10, lol) grapes
Either cold chicken, cold beef, or 2-3 hard boiled eggs
Brown bagel with a scraping of Anchor butter (sometimes half a bagel)
A Freddo chocolate frog

It's all easy for work, and the kids take the chopped veggies/grapes combo to school as part of their packed lunch so I/they chop a huge amount every few days as they keep well in the fridge for 2 to 3 days.

Those on IG I really recommend meowmeix. She does all sorts of salads in mason jars, and posts about easy swaps etc.

Lone I'm not a breakfast eater either and quite often end up doing an 18:6 too. Is it the cerave pm that you're using and if so where did you get it as I am desperate to get my mitts on it!

Enid

Mint For lunch, I used to have either soup or salad with protein (cottage cheese, cold meat, fish) and maybe some crackers but since starting to gain weight (intentionally :) ) I need something more calorific and carbalicious. Today was leftover roast chicken, basmati rice, coleslaw and mixed salad. I'm eating much more than I used to, it's been an interesting process!

No sallie it's just the moisturizing CeraVe for dry skin with hylauronic acid and ceramids I really like it. I'm dying to get my hands on the Pm one too heard so much good about it.

tbh mint my usual lunch is usually a ham or chicken sandwich with lettuce, tomato and mustard on multigrain bread with a piece of fruit usually an apple or a pear and always a coffee. My snack a few hours later is usually an apple or pear or if I'm feeling tired then a banana.

I have just had a chicken sandwich on multigrain bread with lettuce, clearly my lunch today was somewhat lacking

Thank you darlings ❤️ All appreciated very much.

MrsD That's exactly what it feels like. It's surreal.

Just found this thread and not sure if this is the right place to ask..

I'm blessed with generally good skin. I'm mid 50s, almost wrinkle free. I have never been a sun worshipper but too careless to put sunscreen on when gardening, dog walking, just out and about etc. My problem is hyper pigmentation. I have several large age spots that have surfaced over the past few years. Two are particularly annoying - one looks like a bruise in photographs, and one on my upper lip looks like I've been drinking hot chocolate. (I know that because several people have pointed it out!). I've tried all sorts of cosmetics but nothing covers them up.

Any advice?

PS I've bought the Frezyderm on the back of your recommendations here

Olly I'm no expert but you could try and incorporate Vit C into your routine in the mornings. As for covering up Dermabland is good for this kind of cover up which you buy from Boots as is K Von D makeup which you can get from Debenhams, people use the latter to cover tattoos.

*Kat Von D

*dermablend

and still the Frezyderm has not been featured as a MN Swears By despite my active shilling of it. What's it going to take MNHQ? probably a favourable sound bite by JDSTR

Ollly, hyperpigmentation is really difficult to tackle. Realistically, if you're in a stage where makeup struggles to cover it up I think the best way forward is with a dermatologist. Daily SPF as a baseline but the blanket answers of high % Vit C and retinoids can be helpful but since they also make you more sun sensitive they could equally put you at risk of more pigmentation. Melasma specifically needs careful management so I think a consultation with a dermatologist/gp is the best route to take, even just to get a basic understanding and rule out anything that OTC cosmetics simply wouldn't touch, if it's mild pigmentation prescription Tretinoin is usually adviced so you'd need a dermatologist for that anyhow.

Some more for you today, Enid, hope you managed a bit of quality sleep last night.

bo Kept waking up sweating which I never do and I can't eat today. Can try to sleep a bit today. Thank you.

I had those too, unfortunately, it's like a physical form of anxiety. If you can do a bit of exercise or a long walk before bed that can help a bit. Don't worry about food, eat when you can and eat more then than you would otherwise.

Bo am I right in thinking you use an overseas shopper? I want some Hush Puppies sandals but they no longer have a UK website and very poor stockists. I'm a size 9. Shoe shopping is hard enough as it is. I have found some on the US website. I thought I could get them sent to a friend who agreed to ship them to me. But it seems that I can't do that with a UK credit card, or even with Paypal. So I'm now thinking of paying someone to buy them for me and ship them. Any tips for finding such people?

I only use personal shoppers in Asia. Think for the US you can purchase prepaid online credit cards (paid with an international credit card or PayPal) to purchase things in the US which are recognised as US credit cards. The big credit card companies sell them so I guess you could try that?

Can you link the shoes? They're quite a popular brand here and big feet are not unusual either.

Tell me about Footner, other tiny people in my laptop... I've bought some but have been feeling a little trepidatious! How long after using does the peeling begin?!