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Fantastic Skincare And Where To Find It

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Pupsiecola · 28/11/2016 23:37

In honour of bo who has been so helpful on the first thread, which can be found here...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/a2759152-Skincare-Ingredients

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yongnian · 12/12/2016 21:15

Er yes...hands up..that was indeed me with the konjac sponge bought in a mad shopping spree careful and considered targeted retail exercise.
Got it from cosnatural - they have a few types, geared towards different skin issues.It is very nice to use in the manner bo describes and seems to be effective.
Am trickling in TO caffeine eye serum into the routine...no ill effects so far....everything else settling alright....
Have used the PC Calm 1% BHA for just the second time. Again no ill effects yet...

yongnian · 12/12/2016 21:17

And would echo that skincare has become an everyday luxury/therapy/meditation moment in an otherwise stressful time.

yongnian · 12/12/2016 21:19

Oh yeah somerset that is quite the stash for a non-cleanser Grin

botemp · 12/12/2016 21:24

Flowers for you too Wendla, I'll get to you in a bit.

Haha Aurora, I keep x-posting. Yes, Somerset can get her one day cleanser chip, you'll get the next one in six weeks and we'll have a skincare party with crappy donuts and coffee Wink.

Sorry to hear about your mum, Aurora. It makes for shitty times especially around the holidays, lovely to be able to pamper and care a bit in other ways, isn't it? I can probably be a professional masseur with the amount of practice I got in then.

Verso is on 2 for 1 in the Skincity advent calendar today for anyone who was on the lookout (sorry I forgot your username, but it's probably not the best offer if you're just trying it out and I think DH had covered it already?). Heavily debating on whether to get myself two eye serums as it's a bargain at €30 each but those things last me about a year and I still have one... I have less than two hours to decide which will be spent in perpetual agony over this.

Badger, glad to hear you managed to get it in. I think you deserve the highly honourable Fuck the Family my Skin is More Important badge now Xmas Grin

Oh and another plus for doing your routine early at night, if you brush your teeth then too you're less likely to start munching and snacking on things (helps with sleep too as the digestive system doesn't remain active till late into the night).

Pupsiecola · 12/12/2016 21:46

Sorry to hear about your mum Aurora. Flowers. And yours too Bo. Flowers

This is my stash. I think I will take the body stuff skiing although will have to try out first because of my body ezcma. Any comments on the other bits and bobs? I am also debating giving it all to my mother in law for Xmas. I think I had that in mind when I ordered it...

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Pupsiecola · 12/12/2016 21:47

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botemp · 12/12/2016 22:16

Wendla

Yes you can be both oily and dehydrated. Dehydrated is a secondary condition not a skin type iyswim. It definitely sounds like you've become increasingly sensitive so avoid the natural brands heavy in essential oils and the silicones, which puts you in a very narrow bandwidth of products unfortunately. Niacinamide is definitely an active worth looking into, despite my warnings to Jo I think most will be fine with it but consider buffering it in first too. Azelaic is usually the one recced for rosacea but TO offering is a silicon based one. BHA is worth using with BHA as it's anti-inflammatory and it is good for oily skin too. I'd be more inclined to recommend the 1% Calm from PC but again that is silicon based. The 2% Clear or Perfecting Liquid are worth trying (either getting the samples or travel size).

Things of interest from the Toleriane Range are the Dermo Cleanser and the Fluid Moisturiser. The rest we tend to ignore.

AM: Lush aqua marina - I used it years ago and found it soothing, I suspect because of the calamine, it's ridiculously drying though, but I don't feel like I can bin it

botemp · 12/12/2016 22:22

Can't really make it all out, Pupsie. The face stuff is on the smaller side, looks like a lovely thing to gift though even though I hate receiving skincare stuff, always bloody Rituals. I think I've read some positive things about the face wash but not about much else.

Pupsiecola · 12/12/2016 22:24

For your SPF Wendla do look at the Neostrata Sheer Physical Protection SPF50. I have early rosacea and skin that burns very easily. I also don't always wear make up and if I do it's very light. I will often wear this in place of tinted moisturiser depending on what I'm doing. I also like Eucerin for SPF.

The Pixi Glow Tonic did aggravate me too.

I am loving my Face Theory moisturisers. Very good value for money and they just feel so good.

Someone said about the LRP Redermic eye cream. I have that and keep it in the fridge.

Still no luck finding the Una Brennan Rose Mask. What's that all about? Has it been discontinued?

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Pupsiecola · 12/12/2016 22:25

Yeah Bo. I think I will gift it to my mother in law and possibly my friend. Quite a lot there so could split it. Don't really want to be introducing anything else. Only think I might buy is the TO Buffet. I'm not seeing a difference with the Indeed HA.

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AuroraPolaris · 12/12/2016 22:29

Thanks bo... yeah it is hard and emotionally very complex....

I know exactly what you mean re the bloody Rituals stuff

botemp · 12/12/2016 22:36

Were you using an Intral serum from Darphin, Pupsie? They're launching a lightweight SPF50 at the end of January from that range but couldn't remember if that was the sensitive/rosacea line or not. Don't have much info on it beyond that it's a mineral filter based one with wheat proteins (good for soothing and sensitive skin and supposedly good against pollutants) and it'll retail at £35.

Flowers Aurora, and I'll never gift you Rituals

botemp · 12/12/2016 22:41

Something does seem to be up with the Superfacialist stuff as I can't access their website either, I think it's pretty popular, maybe they're repackaging things or changing suppliers? The pound shop business was a bit odd too.

Dulcimena · 12/12/2016 22:54

Pupsie, that hand cream is lovely and the face wash alright. Haven't tried any of the other bits you have there but I find them a pretty solid natural brand.

AuroraPolaris · 12/12/2016 22:57

bo dear I know you wouldn't, not in a million skin-light years

AuroraPolaris · 12/12/2016 22:58

Ok that went wrong again cause I'm on phone. Was supposed to be all crossed out Xmas Hmm

Pupsiecola · 12/12/2016 23:07

Yes Bo I love my Darphin Intral serum. It's probably my favourite product. I shall keep my eye out for the SPF. To the newbies here, re SPF it is key that you have one you enjoy using to ensure that you do use it daily, all year round.

Dulc, thanks for that. Perhaps I will cherry pick and gift the rest away!

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wiltingfast · 12/12/2016 23:14

Ooh bo, am v tempted to say I'd buy one of the versos from you (plus postage of course) If you were going to buy the two!!! Have no eye cream and am quite distressingly crepy. Have v dry eyes so am
Always pulling at them putting in drops etc. Skin is sensitive there too of bloody course

What do you think? We have 46m to decide Grin

Somerset, sorry you are having such a tough time, I hope we are distraction Flowers

I've taken to doing my routine when I come in with the kids. We all go upstairs to put our pjs and clean our faces. Ahem. Mine takes a good bit longer than theirs Grin

Dulcimena · 12/12/2016 23:14

I would Xmas Wink

botemp · 12/12/2016 23:20

CET unfortunately wilting so it's over now, decided against it because I worried how potent it would still be 2.5 years from now. I think generally it's 36 months for cosmetics but with something active I'm not wholly convinced even if it is all packaged very well.

yongnian · 12/12/2016 23:23

Re the hint-hint for reccs for SPF from the rest of the rosacea party, I can't be much help here as this is my major current dilemma. LRP Anthelios cream not doing wonders for me, been considering my next SPF move...pupsie seems to have the most successful take on this and I will be following her lead most probably for my own next SPF.
bo do you know of any BHA's that are not silicone based? I'm trying the 1% PC one in sample form just now but would prob prefer a non-silicone for full size.
How do you know if your skin is dehydrated by the way?

botemp · 12/12/2016 23:40

From PC/Beautypedia:

Dehydrated Skin vs. Dry Skin

Having classically dry skin is easy to recognize. Dry skin frequently feels tight and dry, with no oil anywhere to be seen. This situation rarely fluctuates; skin feels dry all year long. The dryness might get worse depending on the climate, season, or activity, but regardless of those things, without great skincare products, the uncomfortable dry, tight feeling will persist.

Combination skin is when you have areas that are oily, usually in the T-zone (nose, chin, and center of the forehead) while skin on the sides of the face or cheek area is dry.

On the other hand, dehydrated skin can look and feel like dry skin all over your face but there’s a major difference: Dehydrated skin tends to come and go, it does not persist.

Another hallmark of dehydrated skin is that it’s often accompanied by a more than normal or even excessive amount of oil on skin’s surface. Despite this excess oil flowing through the pores all over the face, skin still feels tight or dry everywhere on your face, and these signs are often accompanied by flaking. Very frustrating, but you knew that, right?

Simply described, if you feel your skin is dry underneath under an oily layer on top, most likely you have dehydrated skin. Surprising fact: For many people, the skincare products they’re using might be to blame!

How the Wrong Products Can Cause Dehydrated Skin

Although dehydrated skin can be caused by different factors, more often than not it's the result of using skincare products that contain harsh or skin-sensitizing ingredients. It can also develop from using the wrong products for your skin, which leads to an imbalance. In essence, dehydration can be viewed as your skin complaining that it doesn’t like something you’re doing to it.

Skin-aggravating ingredients like SD or denatured alcohol, menthol, peppermint, or fragrances (synthetic or natural) can dry out the surface of skin and leave it feeling dehydrated. It will also stimulate excess oil production at the base of the pore, so skin ends up being oilier and more likely to get clogged pores.

The same can happen when you use abrasive scrubs or stiff-bristled cleansing brushes. All of these are the consequence of damaging skin’s surface—an undisturbed skin surface is exceedingly important to healthy-looking skin.

Using the wrong combination of products or using certain products too frequently can make a mess of things. For example, even though an AHA or BHA exfoliant, high-strength vitamin C product, and a high concentration of retinol can have amazing benefits, for this skin type, using them every day can result in a dehydrated look and feel with excess oil sitting on top of it.

This is a highly individual response, so it's important to pay close attention to how your skin responds to more potent, effective products such as these. Based on how your skin responds, adjust usage to get ideal results. For these types of products, once- or twice-daily use isn’t mandatory to see improvement. It’s a balancing act and your goal is to not tip the scale in favor of aggravating skin.

The PC 2% are non-silicone based, so is the CosRx BHA (which is a gentler form but ime not as effective, though works well for plenty of people). I think if you're tolerating the 1% well you can probably try the 2% liquid. Think I suggested the 1% first to ease in to it since you were so sensitive/compromised to gauge the reaction?

Indecisivejo · 13/12/2016 06:44

Did anyone see my questions or have I just missed the replies?! Confused
Has anyone used the hylamide hydra mist? Or their high efficiency cleanser?
Decided against the niacinamide for now, think I need to focus on the sensitivity and dehydration at mo as I think that's what's causing the breakouts and shine especially after reading that above about dry vs dehydrated....the dehydrated is me to a t! Feels tight and itchy and irritated but oily surface!!
Should I add lrp serozinc spray after cleansing? Or will this dehydrate me more??

Somersetlady · 13/12/2016 07:46

Wow thank you!

bo and aurora so sorry to hear of your tough times with your mums. Bo your post about your Mum reaonates with me and I am doing this for me now and I am going to make time for it to try and make myself feel better so thanks for all your advice and help.

I do like La Prarie eye cream but they changed their cellular eye cream and i went off it. I have that darphin serum i think too.

Cleansers are all probably a couple of years old. Eve Lom and La Prarie never opened. Lrp i used as a make up remover occasionally.

I used to model a bit and do some sports tv presenting many moons ago and it put me off make up for life. I have the most ridiculous size make up stash though. A lot of MAC professional stuff.
I also have kiko mascaras unused since they changed their curve formula it runs on me. I have very runny eyes! I am waffling now. Home today and will have a few easy days so lots of time to order what i need!

If anyone does have some p50w and would be willing to decant I would be happy to pay the postage and something for the sample. Or maybe buy the end of a pot from someone moving upto p50.

I have used acids before i think one i used to like was sallicylic acid based.

I will have a look and see what I have today and go from there the liklihood is I shall just go and buy everythkng you have recommended anyway bo

Thanks again and sorry I cant offer anyone else useful advice in return!

Somersetlady · 13/12/2016 08:04

bo do you work in the beauty field if thats not too personal of a question

I just tried the lancome cleanser look at me cleansing twice in 12 hours and its left my face feeling itchy and dry and tight so I will bin it!

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