Sorry but can I ask how you remove hair "down there"?

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Firstly I'd like to apologise if this is tmi or inappropriate...I hope it's not.

I'm really fighting a losing battle with this one.

I like to stay completely clean down there, like after a Brazilian, but waxing just hurts to much and I don't like having to go to a salon.

Shaving is easier but it grows back too quickly and I get inflamed hair sacks so get lots of red spots....not the look I'm after.

What magic tricks am I missing? Surely there's an easy, pain free method of getting smooth without the pain?

This one is totally generational. Anyone over 40 will have grown up with the cultural expectation that we remove hair from legs and underarms. So the vast majority of us do. Porn culture has created the cultural expectation that women now remove all pubic hair as well. It makes over-40s a bit sorry for younger women, as this thread shows it is painful and difficult to get rid of, and takes up yet more time and money, and is simply something we did not have to contend with. There are over40s who do and younger women who don't, but mostly it comes down to the cultural expectations you grew up with.

And yes, it is a trend from porn, and it is intended to make you look prepubescent. Just like shaving legs.always was.

Eyebrow waxing was certainly going strong after Hollywood starlets showed the way in the WW2 period. My grandma waxed her eyebrows right up to the end. You could have sliced tomatoes on those sharp brows!

I remember them being plucked. I guess I'm just not so used to seeing places on the highstreet offering waxing and threading.

Hmm,
I've just been to the chippy without a dot of makeup on and my hair scraped back.
I still choose to remove all my down there hair haha.
I fail to see the connection between my choices and your daughters choices In that sense
in a lot of eastern European countries they thread remove every hair on the body - anyone care to tell me that they do that to look like children too?!
Op asked how those of us who remove it do it, not wether people agree with her doing it or not.
I sweat, everywhere, a lot, feet pits etc even in the dead of winter - having no hair, for me, is a way of controlling this. Under arms, and 'down there'

People can piss right off with telling me that my reasons are 'not the real reasons'! I have never felt pressured to remove the hair. I have never been with a partner who expressed a preference one way or the other. I don't give a monkeys what other people think. And I am not young enough that it was the norm to be hair-free when I was growing up. I simply find it more comfortable and less sweaty to have minimal pubic hair. Those are my REAL REASONS. I am quite sure that many other people have other reasons for doing it, and unfortunately many young women probably do feel pressured into it. But it is not acceptable to tell people they are lying or in denial about their reasons just because you don't agree with it!

And as for the argument that 'Your choices become what our children are forced to do'... well, I see what you mean, but you could apply that to all sorts of things. e.g. It became an acceptable thing for women to choose to have sex before marriage, therefore young women are pressured to have sex. You can't deny people the freedom to make choices just because at some point in the future some people may feel they are obliged to follow them.

In any case, if some girls are being pressured into conforming to a porn stereotype, how about blaming the porn-using men who demand their partners look a certain way, instead of finding yet another stick to beat women with over their choices in life?

I don't shave my legs either, I lurve being waxed. But can't be arsed. And the armpits get shaved maybe once every 6 months

holmes....I think I love you

I use an IPL for my bikini line, and have found that avoids the ingrown hair problem and plucked chicken look I get with epilation or shaving. Don't know if there are limitations for the more intimate areas with IPL.

FWIW I don't give a flying you know what about what anyone else does with their body hair

I wasn't really after advise on whether I should or shouldn't stay bald...just how to do it.

But thanks for all your opinions I guess!

I remove all hair from my legs and underarms. I am not fool enough to think I really 'choose' it. I do it because I have been convinced I must. I can say it feels cleaner or sleeker or whatever, but in truth a woman walking down the street with hairy arms and pits is a social pariah. And for women under roughly forty, the same goes for pubic hair. Not that you can tell on the street! But this stuff goes so deep that we mostly follow the 'rules' whether we are being policed or not.

And yeah, alll the threading and sugaring and scraping with sticks in other countries... it all comes from the same place.

witchofthenorth . It's funny - this is not an issue that normally bothers me that much, but being told what my reasons are makes me . As does the idea of women en masse being told how to behave by other women just because some men are arseholes!

Yes! holmes

It's about as much of anyone else's business as what knickers I wear or how much make up I put on.

FWIW, I'm quite young. From what some of you have said I'm young enough to be your daughters. I was a teenager during the Internet porn/smartphone generation. My choices are still my choices.

Me too holmes makes me all stabby!!

My reasons may be non issues to others but they are my fucking reasons. I only came on to say I used nair, but got irrationally angry at the assumption that I'm 10, I got it from watching a porno and that I am hurting the next generation and that my removal of my pubic hair will makes daughter a mindless zombie who cannot make decisions for herself!

Extreme...I know but still

I'm a social pariah
Do people actually remove hair from their arms ?

Holmes, women have not just individually decided on masse for a complete generation that pubic hair is unclean, uncomfortable and sweaty. Nor am I going to silence my worldview that we are social mammals subject to cultural influences just because it bugs you.
Just as you will not silence your views even though the suggestion that women's genitals are uncomfortable, unclean and sweaty bugs me.
Sometimes I think well, it is just hair. But really, I mean, for fuck's sake, could not even our fucking genitals be left alone. They have made us neurotic about our faces, our ageing, our arses, our stomachs, our thighs. Could not our genitals have been left as one area we didn't think we needed to control and change?

But the comfort thing is perfectly reasonable. You don't need a load of hair to keep you warm under at least two layers of clothes! I know the facial hair thing on men cannot truly be compared because it does not carry with it the same issues of sexual choice, objectification etc. But on the other hand, a man could presumably happily say 'I know it's fashionable to have a beard at the moment, but I find it itchy and uncomfortable ' without people shouting 'How ridiculous! Facial hair is natural and is there for a reason! How dare you imply that young men should all shave their faces! It makes them look like pre-pubescent boys!'

So I guess this is an area where men get to have free choice, but I have to just put up with feeling hot and uncomfortable?

I wax the outer areas and trim all else, OP. I bet you are kinda wishing you didn't start this thread with the direction its veered off to.
There are some right old misery guts on here.

And FYI, Muslims (both male and female ) have culturally removed pubic hair for reasons of hygiene and cleanliness for over a thousand years.

We care because your 'choices' are becoming 'rules' for our children, removing their choices.
We don't want our children to grow up believing that unless they spend hours and money investing in unnecessary 'beauty' practices, that they are weird, abnormal, dirty, or just wrong.

Clearly not, as some women do it and some women don't as shown by this thread. Nothing wrong with leaving it all, nothing wrong with removing it. It's the woman's choice and her body, it doesn't dictate to the rest of the female population what they should do. I'm not interested at all in what a man or any other woman thinks about what I do with my lady bits.

a woman walking down the street with hairy arms and pits is a social pariah.

A good point was made a while ago by Grayson Perry. Watch the x factor, prime time Saturday night viewing, and you will see people with piercing and tattoos. 20 years ago this would have been tutted about and commented on, but now few people are bothered. However if a woman lifted up her arms in song and she had hairy arm pits it would be front page news.

When I can be bothered I use this: www.amazon.co.uk/Cleancut-Intimate-Area-Shaver-Women/dp/B008SB59DG/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428079720&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=ES412+Cleancut+Personal+Shaver

It's a dry shave so you need to use powder on it (and stubble length hair) but it really cuts really close and leaves things quite smooth. Downside is the upkeep - but it's a lot nicer than using a trimmer. Also helpful to use some sort of salicylic acid product after like:
www.amazon.co.uk/PFB-Vanish-Ingrowing-Hair-Remover/dp/B000F7BMRI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428080146&sr=8-1&keywords=pfb+vanish

It certainly is about fashion and porn influence.
I am very old - late 50s- and no one ever shaved when I was younger. Unheard of. women were outraged that they were forced to be shaved when they gave birth- 'for hygiene reasons' was the excuse but it was really to make them asexual. And then the medics agreed it was actually safer to leave the hair there.

See how things have changed?

I don't go for this 'I don't like the feel of it- because you can't feel it!

You must surely be able to feel the stubble though and the itching when it grows back.

who could be bothered?

I think I need to hide this thread now...I am going to implode...poor OP only wanted to know what was the best product to use

Well the fact that I like to keep tidy down there has nothing to do with porn. Even if I've got a hairy strip at front I hate hair underneath....makes me feel a bit Mingy and stinky. Same if arm pit hair grows I feel more stinky ....I like modest body hair but nothing to do with porn or being like a Barbie doll.