Younique beauty products

[maras2]

I wonder if anyone knows if the selling scheme for these products is above board.My DD has an American FB friend who sent her some 'revolutionary' mascara with which she was very pleased.This friend has now anounced that DD has joined the Younique sales team.I've read all the stuff on line about this and it does sound genuinine but as I'm a cynical old bag I wonder if any Mumsnetter's know more than the power of Google.TIA.

[Dawndonnaagain]

In what way does it empower women and children?

[OttiliaVonBCup]

Oh yes, shouting really helps to make a point.

It's make up, not rocket science.

[jbyouniquex]

It empowers women and children by donating part of they're profit to abused women and children.

They have also started they're own charity called the Younique Foundation which will donate to the same cause xx

[Kirstienaomi]

Wow - just read this entire thread and am quite shocked at some of this stuff. Bizarre how people can sit behind their keyboard and feel ok about being really quite mean to strangers who are ultimately doing something that they feel good about that isn't hurting anyone else. Shouldn't us mamas being supporting one another?! Isn't it a bit passé thinking that being cruel is clever and witty? You can be both those things without being hurtful no? I'm sure I will get a barrage of abuse for these comments and guess what? It gets worse! I too am a Younique presenter and it's bloody marvellous

[Misslgl88]

I'm another that thinks it looks awful plus I used to use a mascara that came with a little tube of fibres (shavata I think was the make) and the fibres were always getting in my eyes leading to pain and redness I can't see how these are safe! Plus the fibres stuck to the mascara wand which in turn then dried out the mascara really quick and it wasn't cheap either!

I now use benefit they're real mascara for nights out and benefit roller lash for day time and they are both fantastic and make my lashes really curly and long which they aren't naturally, fair enough they aren't terribly cheap at £19 a go but they last a heck of a lot longer than the fibre one I used!

[Misslgl88]

Also this younique thing just screams forever living and juice plus to me I'm so sick of seeing these clogging up my facebook and I don't accept requests to join any of the groups

[SilentBob]

I had a fibre mascara from bourjois yeeeeeeeears ago- 1 end was white fibres, the other end was black mascara.

It was properly shit.

I see from this thread that things have not moved on in the fibre mascara world...

[Pagwatch]

If you are doing so well why don't you pay to advertise on this site rather than peddling your stuff via regurgitating a thread - much of which is dedicated to how shit your selling process is.

[Dowser]

Sorry to bump a zombie thread.

Just wondering how life's laundry is doing as my dil has joined the happy throng.

I hope it goes well for her. I really do .

[Karenbev44]

I wonder how all the uninformed feel now? two years down the line and Younique are about to open in their 9th new country, are the fastest growing direct sales company in the world...have built and opened the Younique Foundation, are helping abused women and stay at home Mums earn a living. More than 7 millionaires in the company in just 3 years! Hope all you doubters and moaners can smell the coffee now! Good luck and stay empowered, to all the lovely ladies that have faith in a real opportunity!

[specialsubject]

so it isn't really a pyramid scheme selling overpriced stuff, and all those people really are earning a decent salary?

well, blow me. All the stuff on the TimelessVie threads must be nonsense then. There really is an easy way to make money working round your kids.

pull the other one, as we say in the real world.

[Karenbev44]

Timeless Vie is just what? Another thread telling you all the bad things that will happen if you get into direct sales..or mlm? There is no pressure with Younique to build a team. You get paid on what YOU sell, same as any other sales business. I once got talked into being a 'partner' for utility warehouse. Thousands of suckers use them for their gas and electricity supply. Its way over priced, anyone can get cheaper utilities...so I did not sell it or promote it to anyone..ever. Younique is actually different, I can't lose money because I don't need to lay any out. My kit cost me £69 and I can use every part of it for myself. I have no fees, no yearly fee to pay, no website fee to pay...I make what I work for. Like any job when you are self employed..the effort you put in, creates the benefits you get out.
Anyway, think what you like..no narrow mind ever got wider when its closed in

[specialsubject]

absolutely - check the mirror...

i also refused Utility Warehouse for the same reason. Selling smelly overpriced slap is even worse. Enough planet clutter as it is.

good luck in your pursuit of riches. But do check your logic - you laid out £69 on the kit. So if it doesn't sell, you've bought over-priced slap. That is losing money.

but there are three groups with whom you can't argue: religious believers, serial dieters and pyramid marketeers!

[Streetspirit118]

I don't work for Younique, I've never tried their products but I do understand business & what I can't understand is what you women a) don't understand & b) get so wound up about.
Let me see if I can try & explain this to you with a hypothetical scenario:
Let's pretend I'm interested in trying Younique products. I could either
A) pay full whack for a product bought a through a presenters page. That person then earns commission on the product.
B) I can buy a presenters kit for £69. This kit contains 23 samples plus 7 full sized products for ME to use. NOT to sell on.
Now I have looked into this as I know several people who are Younique presenters, there is NO obligation to become a presenter. None. So if I wanted, I could spend £69 on 7 items of make up (not something that unusual, I've spent £60 on 5 samples from MAC for my sister before) & get a load of samples & some brushes chucked in without needing to take it anywhere.

IF I wanted to, as well as getting those products I could then become a presenter & try to sell products (not from my kit) so that I could make my £69 back.

Now I haven't done this because I'm not really a make up wearer, I just looked into it because I am adverse to schemes selling crap like Aloe Vera & powdered juice whilst claiming that it can make you thin/healthy/fitter/forever young & I wanted to see if mates are being ripped off but from what I can see, these are fairly decent products (& no you don't have to be drag queen, it depends on what/how much make up you want to wear). They are expensive but one thing I have heard from several non-presenters is that they do last for ages. Foundation lasting for 4 months even for people who wear it every day etc. Which may explain the cost but there's no big outlay for presenters like other MLMs. No buying £200 of product up front that you have to sell.

It amazes me how many people just jump in, without a clue but with all the guesses in the world & judge people that they don't know about something they've made assumptions on. I've seen some really spiteful things on here & this is supposed to be a supportive forum for mums.
You weren't being sold a product, people were being asked for their opinion on a product. You wouldn't have been so vehement if it had been a review of a MAC product by a MAC sales assistant (who I have experienced being on the receiving end of EXTREMELY pushy sales tactics with).

& another thing I learnt. Younique specifically encourage social media marketing over other types of selling. As I work in the digital technology space & have friends in digital marketing... I'd say that's a pretty intelligent way to go as that is where most information is shared these days.

What it boils down to is: if you don't have a clue & don't have anything nice to say - shut up. Don't say anything. Just get on with your life & let them get on with theirs.

[StatisticallyChallenged]

You don't sell younique but you decided to resurrect a zombie thread to be patronising as fuck? Pull the other one it's got bells on.

Oh and starting by calling ever poster "you women" is not a good start.

You know how you said if you don't have a clue say nothing...apply it to yourself

[NerrSnerr]

'What it boils down to is: if you don't have a clue & don't have anything nice to say - shut up'

Well I suppose life would be easier if everyone who disagreed with you just 'shut up'. What my issue with Younique is the 'fake it to make it' route they go down to get more sellers. They are encouraged to show off any expensive things they buy and talk about expensive holidays even if they have no plans (or money) to go on them so they can persuade others to join their team and earn as much fictional money. My Younique bot has told me that I should give up my job to spend time at home and she's sure I'll be earning just as much if I put the effort in. She doesn't know that (especially as she doesn't know my salary). A gullible or vulnerable person may have believed her and be right up shit creek.

If someone wants to buy a set and goes in with a nothing to lose attitude that's fine. I think it's ethically dubious to big up your earnings to get others to join as they may think they can earn more than possible.

[Streetspirit118]

Haha, believe what you want. I don't have anything to do with Younique but I did do some proper quality research after my initial assumptions. That attitude is what I'm talking about though. Pure cattiness, do you not know any other way to express yourself?

I haven't said anything nasty or patronising. There are several posters who did not seem to be understanding that you don't sell the kit that you buy for £69 therefore they were making assumptions about the process. There were also lots of assumptions about what has to be done as a presenter - all incorrect & therefore I was merely explaining so that people are fully informed. Sorry the thread is old but I was reading it to get some info on the products & was pretty dismayed with the humans on here.

I'm sorry that your experiences with presenters are unhappy ones, I know a few & although I've been added to the groups & made offers I've never felt uncomfortable declining & none of them have either been pushy or tried to get me to join their teams. I've also heard nothing about their "perks" but I guess that is down to the individual more than anything else. You can get pushy sales people anywhere, I've honestly felt more pressured just going into John Lewis.

I looked into getting the presenters kit as a present for my sister but you can't choose the colours that come in the full size items so there's no point. She's fussy & bound to dislike.

[Streetspirit118]

& what's wrong with "you women"?
You are women are you not? I'm not sure how else I could have referred to you all.

[abbsismyhero]

There are men on here too

[Streetspirit118]

abbsismyhero you're right although I don't think that was was StatisticallyChallenged was referring to.

Correction - you *people (to account for the potential men that may have commented prior to me)

[StatisticallyChallenged]

No its not what I was referring to. Generally referring to a group of people as "you xxx" right before proceeding to patronise them isn't a good plan. It is very rarely used in a pleasant way and conveys a tone of utter disdain. But then I'm pretty sure that was your intention.

You assume that the posters on this thread don't understand business and don't have a clue when actually many are posting from a position of knowledge and experience. There are long running threads on these boards discussing MLM companies and so many posters are very well read and researched.

[Streetspirit118]

StatisticallyChallenged, no, that wasn't my intention actually, I didn't even give a thought to the phrasing. I was addressing the (assumed) women who had posted so I used that phrase. Didn't think it'd be cause for offence.

& given the comments left by the majority of posters - although i could see plenty of understanding of the standard rip off MLM schemes, the application of all of those practices & expectations to this company were assumptions & not based on fact.
An assumption is;
x = y
x is in the same category as z therefore z must also = y.
This is flawed logic & this is what I was addressing.

Forget generic research on MLM companies, research the company that is being discussed & you will find that their set up, although bearing some resemblance, is NOT the same as ForeverLiving & JuicePlus & therefore should be judged on its own merits.

If you cannot see the number of posters who thought that the £69 kit that is purchased had to be sold to make your money back then you may need to go & re-visit the posts to see why I felt compelled to clear this confusion up.

[Streetspirit118]

That & the depolarable way some of the posters were addressing each other. Theres just no need, you can address an issue without the barbed & mean comments.
But as I said originally, if you're reading something & feel compelled to comment but don't have ALL or any of the facts then
a) you probably shouldn't comment unless you make it clear you don't really know what you're talking about or
b) try not to be mean.
People in glass houses & all that.
I've tried to keep my language as objective as possible, I could have been absolutely hideous but it would have undermined my point & lowered me to the level of the bullies.