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What makes a person frumpy?

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Ladyfoxglove · 04/09/2014 09:18

I'm feeling decidedly frumpy at the moment. Whilst trying on some old clothes the other day, I caught sight of myself from the back in a full length mirror and I look just like my mother did twenty years ago horrors!

The trouble is, although I'm looking at all the nice new clothes around about now I can't decide what to get. I get my hair cut and highlighted regularly (shoulder length, straight) and I'm 5' 7" and reasonably slim, instead of the effect I'm after (sophisticated, slightly edgy but natural), I'm more average 46 year old frumpy, boring woman from the Midlands. I can't pinpoint where I'm going wrong.

I look similar to Kate Winslet but I'd rather look like kristen taekman (sorry for Real Housewives reference but that's the look I like).

Any suggestions?

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Valsoldknickers · 04/09/2014 20:15

I associate my frumpy times with my hormones. Maybe my decision making is affected but whenever I have the worst day of my period I will pick something to wear that lacks any style even though I am making an effort. I tend to drag out clothing I haven't worn in a long time (with good reason) which really should be sent to the charity shop or clothes recycling! I also find post pregnancy very dodgy as well! Agree about steering clear of Per Una and also some of the clothes in Debenhams.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 04/09/2014 20:20

OMG yes! Any clothes I buy when I'm premenstrual ALWAYS get taken back to the shop after I get my period. They're unanimously hideous. Just... Hideous.

MarthasVineyard · 04/09/2014 20:39

Statement jewelry is frumpy.
And if you think your style is "edgy", it's probably not.

FifiVonEpstein · 04/09/2014 21:10

How the frick do you not look frumpy if you are short, fat and have big norks. I'm looking down at my old clothes (nothing I am wearing is less than three years old, my top and cardigan are probably more like 7-8yrs). I also fit nancysinatra's description. Mousey bob (with fringe, which I actually do like). I do care I just feel chic stuff is not designed for those of use with muffin tops, flabby stomachs and less than 5ft 3. I'm also always on the verge of going on a diet and fall in the trap of not buying new clothes 'because I'm going to lose weight' .

Rivercam · 04/09/2014 21:20

I think frumpiness occurs when you wear clothes and colours that are not suited to your figure.

Also, some people naturally have style, whilst others don't. I didn't really know what suited me, until Trinny and Suzanne came along. They really helped me identify what clothes I should wear.

areyoubeingserviced · 04/09/2014 21:22

Gwen Stefani is my style icon .
She is about forty five but manages to look edgy and sophisticated at the same time .

CambridgeBlue · 04/09/2014 21:36

There was a Cotton Traders catalogue inside the TV guide that came today so I had a flick through it. THAT is my definition of frumpy right there.

polyhymnia · 04/09/2014 21:42

Agree re Cotton Traders.

MaryWestmacott · 04/09/2014 21:48

I too was feeling the frump last year - I realised I'd fallen into the habit of dressing for comfort and practical reasons, not for style or elegance.

If you start a "Mumsy" or "frumpy" thread about any particular clothes, you'll get people coming along say "yes, I wear [item that's being decreed frumpy/mumsy] because I've got 3 DCs and I need clothes I can wear without ironing/look ok after being covered in snot and paint/that will cover my mummy tummy/that are comfortable" never "because I think it makes me look great".

You can be neat and tidy, but wearing clothes that are 'suitable' but not stylish. And it's lack of effort in looking good, not just suitable/practical.

I've got a limited budget so I can't spend a lot updating my wardrobe, but wearing things differently, and making an effort to wear things that fit me, and even though my stomach isn't as flat as it was when I didn't have 2DCs, I realised I look better in things that are tighter in that area than baggy to 'hide' it.

Itsfab · 04/09/2014 21:51

I am frumpy, old, fat and ugly.

I have no clue what is in fashion and live in jeans and my new jersey black trousers. I rarely wear make up as I feel I am trying to be something I am not attractive enough to wear make up, look at me

Most of my clothes don't fit me.

Pinkfrocks · 04/09/2014 22:14

Do you want to be non-frumpy?

Saurus72 · 04/09/2014 22:52

One thing I've noticed, and yes there are some big generalisations here, is that clothes from certain shops are on the frump scale. Therefore, if you are worried about looking frumpy, one solution could be to only shop in places where it is quite difficult to buy frumpy stuff, at least until you are more used to buying things you feel better in.

So, for me (5ft6, 40, size 14), big danger zones are Monsoon and Boden. Now, not all of their clothes are frumpy, but I reckon the odds are I am going to look frumpy in clothes. Too much going on, too much embellishment, too much pattern, dodgy lengths etc. it's too easy to make a mistake in those shops, and I pretty much always regret anything I buy from those shops.

However, when I go to shops like Cos and & Other Stories and Whistles, it is quite a lot harder (not impossibly obvs) to buy things that make me feel frumpy, just because they are coming from a different perspective than Monsoon/Boden (and M&S, Wallis etc) IME.

If you have things that make you feel good, maybe start going back to those shops more and seeing if you can replicate that feeling with other things. Conversely, do the clothes that make you feel frumpy all come from the same few shops? If so, avoid until you have refined your shopping until you can make better choices.

I write down all the clothes and shoes I buy in a notepad each year to try and get a better handle on my shopping. I notice time and time again that I just regret some things, whereas there are patterns of what I am glad I bought. That might help the process also.

I agree with a PP that it has little to do with age/size etc. Some people look frumpy at 15, whereas some people look amazing at 75.

LoafersOrLouboutins · 04/09/2014 23:04

This thread has really got me thinking and I've been analysing judging because I'm bored and lonely the mums at my DD1's old prep school. Most of us were between the ages of 30-50ish. There was three categories of 'looks';
The SAHM mum: usually wearing gym wear or skinny jeans with high heels. ALWAYS a designer handbag, often very small. Often no make-up due to obvious gym class.

The 'I have work after this' mum (this is the 'look' I was in): Heels, Boden mac, uncomfortable looking pencil skirt or cigarette pants with a large handbag, make-up. Wrap dresses were popular too, very little jewellery.

The 'frumpy' mum: faded jeans (not in a good way), generally badly fitting, doesn't want to be noticed, flat hair colour with roots, no make-up or just bright lipstick, fleece, sensible 'mum' boots. If they work then a per una top with loose black trousers was the look. NEVER a silk blouse and cigarette pants, ever.

FWIW I could do this about the 'looks' of the dads too! And being frumpy isn't about money, one of the frumpiest mums at DD1's old prep lives in knightsbridge, a few streets away from Harrods!

coffeenut · 05/09/2014 01:25

Tinting your brows/lashes is the same as wearing makeup in terms of the effect.

lordnoobson · 05/09/2014 01:35

Agree wearing same jewelery every day.

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funnyperson · 05/09/2014 02:16

Important, mentally, to not be one's mum or one's granny.

At dd's graduation the non frumpy mums had the best highlighted salon dyed brilliantly cut and styled hair and wore heels, end of story.

Some had made too much of an effort however and made me realise that women who look like a marginally fatter Victoria Beckham are not necessarily non-frumpy. In fact I think Victoria Beckham is a frump as she only does black.

My hairdresser advised me to tone down my highlights. This was rubbish advice. This century, hair is out there.

funnyperson · 05/09/2014 02:43

The trouble is that the forty to fifty something non frump is in high street fashion competition with the sixty/seventy something non frumpy felicity kendal/lumley types and m and s and the like haven't yet spotted there is a very important distinction to be made.

For instance at forty/fifty one is still working, still socialising, still at the school or university gate as mum, not as granny. Perhaps this is taboo but personally I wouldn't mind being mistaken for Mrs Robinson. In short I don't think looking as though one might be good in bed should be out.

Those who know me will laugh as I am short fat big boobed and graduating from mumsy to frumpy.

Rocktheboat73 · 05/09/2014 03:10

I love a liberty print - would you say these Jigsaw tops are frumpy? I'm 41
jigsawclothing.com.au/clothing/tops/all/product/liberty-shirt/J140.14S.10238_3

funnyperson · 05/09/2014 03:23

It depends on how you would wear it! I think that blouse is frumpy because of the collar and cap sleeves. To be adequately retro one should be able to imagine Hepburn wearing it which I can't. I would have thought Peter Pan neckline and elbow length sleeves with Liberty prints but I'm no stylist

Rocktheboat73 · 05/09/2014 03:29

I would wear the tops with trousers like these in the colour 'Linen' and a camel coloured ballet flat perhaps?
www.countryroad.com.au/shop/woman/clothing/pants/60170925/Sateen-Pant.html
I have ordered the top in all 3 colours, it is possible I have made a HUGE mistake Blush

BravePotato · 05/09/2014 07:40

Not frumpy those blouses, but those trousers.... Not sure. Think those cropped trousers only work if very fitted.

Are you in Australia then? Tough to dress for hot weather! I wore mainly dresses/skirts with vest tops when we lived abroad.

MarthasVineyard · 05/09/2014 07:51

Rock - if you like the blouse/trousers then buy them and enjoy wearing them. Who cares what some random women on the web think?

mirpuppet · 05/09/2014 08:22

Rocktheboat73 I think it is a mistake to buy all three. One in that style is enough.

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