I have just had botox! <stares in mirror>

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BRILLIANT woman in Cheltenham did it.

It hasn't worked yet and apparently it can take up to 2 weeks to take effect, but should be apparent in a couple of days.

Didn't hurt - was expecting it to be like those monstrous dental injections. 6 injections, no pain, just slight scratch.

Yay! Hatchet-face BEGONE.

Will report back when I start looking like Gisele Bundchen

i need botox , but couldnt afford to keep it up if i started-

I have microdermabrasion and have seen a real difference in my skin.
It isn't painless.....like being sanded...and the bits end up in your ears.
But it's quick and definitely worth it.

Can botox be used on the lines from nose to the sides of your mouth? I am very unwrinkly everywhere else but (age 36) these faint lines are starting to become scary grooves.

I think that they are treated with fillers instead. I don't suppose it's a muscular movement that causes those lines...just floppy, collagen depleted skin!

That sounds so horrible.

Ugh yes it does. That's a pity. I had got used to the idea of botox but fillers are too scary. I read somewhere about a woman who had wax injected in her face in about 1923 and ended up looking horrific (this may even have been fictional) so I can't do it.

Pity I can't grow a fringe there. Or maybe it wouldn't look too wierd to grow two massive curtains either side of my mouth and just peep out?

Thanks anyway.

i want something for those under eye lines from tiredness
not right under the eye, going down to top of cheek bone

Do you mean Tear Troughs, Stallion? I think they will become a problem for me one day. At the moment they are only bad when I am also puffy, but I'm gonna get them big style. They are fillers but its rather specialised. I think i might go for a head-transplant instead. In fact, while they are doing that, they may as well transplant my body as well. But then I will be a walkingTheseus Paradox

tear troughs
thats a ttragic WORD

Provincial lady, they say you should never be tempted with the permenant fillers for that reason. You just don't know where its going to end up later on!

Whatever happens with fillers, they will break down over time, its never permenant with the Retylane or Juverderm or whatever...

Sorry I just read back and realised tear troughs were discussed before...

What are tear troughs?

those lines under your eye - to top of cheek

Just went to look Under eyes I am ok nothing much to see above is another story!

tear troughs are sunken hollow eyes

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See how he doesn't really have baggy eyes, they are not actually puffy or full of fluid, yet he has that sort of underline thing

If you have bags as well then that just makes them really bad, sort of like massive arrows pointing them out! There's a guy on the TV who has them, big bags and troughs, can't think of his name, he's on Andrew Marr from time to time.

And if he was a woman he wouldn't be on TV at all

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Christ!

Lost the ability to frown yesterday - I can still frown slightly but just look slightly consternated.

But GOD the effect is amazing. The 11s have pretty much disappeared - I didn't think it would happen so quickly but thinking about it I must use those muscles to frown 1000s of times a day, and now I can't the lines are slowly going. I didn't just have the 11s - I have many small line radiating outwards from my eyebrows (I have a turbo frown!) and they are fading fast.

My eyebrows haven't raised at all, mind you I have very high arched brows anyway. I am just not pulling them forward into a neanderthal frown anymore.

I am trying not to get too carried away with hyberbole, but I look about 25. I found an old photo of me and a friend taken when we were 25, a couple of weeks ago I was miserable as I looked fresh faced in that pic, compared to my (what I thought was) my wizened awld visage aged 33. I look just like that pic now.

Lots of mild compliments from work colleagues this morning (of the 'you look very well' type) and even DP (who thought my having botox was the height of vain and unecessary madness) has said that it has made a difference, and I look a lot better, and less cross.

I am like noddy about this - it's brilliant. I cannot recommend it enough.

nothingnatural I saw a woman called Alison Taylor at Skin Detox (you can find it on google) - it cost £180 for one area.

It's a slippery slope, you'll look like the Bride of Wildenstein next time we see you

Ha! yes I have a nose job, eyelift and jaw reconstructive surgery planned.

I keep walking about like a ponce in the salon selectives adverts, swooshing my hair (I had that done yesterday as well) and looking at myself surreptitiously in windows.

I will be wearing leopardprint and chatting up young whippersnappers next (good)

when they say " one area" what do they mean?
what id they still have some botox in the vial or whatever left

They give it to you to take home and inject the cat.

God knows. One area in my case is just the area between the eyebrows - I had 6 injections in total. I originally enquired about having the outer eyebrows done as well, but she said I didn't need that doing (extra areas would be an extra £50 at the clinic I went to). Other areas I supposed would be crows feet.

I don't really know! I had 2 areas which consisted of about 8 injections. I had said I wanted the lift effect more than line reduction. When I raise my eyebrows I still have upper lines near my hairline but frowning is impossible. Not being able to frown is great, I havnt felt miserable since I had it, no PMT grumps either. Which I think is the most interesting part.

but how would i control the young without frowning?>!

I could have done with taking some home to inject the Bulldog :o