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DD says she doesn’t want to live here when DSC are around

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Alstac · 28/05/2025 16:41

dd is 10 and has just told me she doesn’t want to be at home when dsc are here, says she wants to go to her dad’s instead (who fwiw is useless and barely sees her unless it suits him).

she’s very sensitive, always has been, and she just doesn’t get on with them at all. there’s no fighting really but they don’t include her in anything, she feels left out and says she hates how noisy it is when they’re around. she’s an only when they’re not here so i get it’s a lot for her, but it’s upsetting to hear she doesn’t feel at home in her own home.

i’ve tried talking to dh about it but he gets defensive and says she needs to learn to get on with them. i get it’s hard for him too but i don’t want dd feeling like she has to leave her home just to feel comfortable.

not sure what to do really. just feels like we’re not a proper family and she knows it. anyone been through similar?

OP posts:
HANDholdplease0 · 29/05/2025 16:09

FlakyCritic · 29/05/2025 16:07

It's 'truly bonkers' that boys and girls going through puberty should have appropriate places to sleep that gives them privacy? ???

It's truly bonkers to think that is a 'truly bonkers' thing.

In fact, not allowing a girl going through puberty a private space to sleep away from males is not just 'truly bonkers', it's predatory and neglectful.

As a safeguarding lead, this is very accurate

TomatoSandwiches · 29/05/2025 16:09

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 14:36

Have you ever considered that some people date for romance, companionship, and love instead of conducting checks notes “economic cost/benefit analyses” of their relationships?

Please tell me why you need to move a new romantic partner into your child's home to experience love and companionship?

GlutesthatSalute · 29/05/2025 16:13

TomatoSandwiches · 29/05/2025 16:07

It's a recognised safeguarding issue and if you knew how common childhood sexual abuse was and the risk factors for it you'd understand the requirement is not bonkers in the slightest.

If sexual abuse is on someone's mind, a bedroom door doesn't keep him out

I think it's bonkers that this much make finding a home for e.g. a single mum with a boy and girl so much harder. If there were a place with one/two rooms, then surely you'd prefer to be offered that for you and your kids than live in a hotel?

NotWorthTheHeadache · 29/05/2025 16:20

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 15:04

It also takes like one whole minute to make another account

So you think posters here have gone out of their way to create new email addresses and MN accounts just to disagree with you? 🤣🤣🤣

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 16:23

namechangealerttt · 29/05/2025 16:07

Of course, that's where it starts. Under patriarchy we are sold this lie from when we are little girls about how a Prince Charming will come along and sweep us off our feet. I went into dating optimistically, but after taking a reality check, which involved looking at relationships around me, how I had been treated in my own previous relationships, and what few benefits I gained dating versus the cost. I had some fun, an occassional nice date, some adult fun, but it came with stress, drama, bad behaviour, bad manners, disrespect. I bailed, and I am happily single.

I’m sorry you went through all that, but that hasn’t been my experience at all. I really enjoyed dating, meeting new people, learning about them, experiencing new sexual partners…

If any of them behaved or treated me in a way I didn’t like, or if I felt like they weren’t worth my time, I stopped seeing that person immediately. There were literally millions more options, and I found one pretty early that made me very happy, who I eventually decided I didn’t want to live without. Other people look for, and often find that, too. It’s not a “patriarchal lie.”

TakeMeDancing · 29/05/2025 16:26

As long as your DC doesn’t suffer by living in a house with, as far as they’re concerned, three randoms that they dislike, then crack on.

cannynotsay · 29/05/2025 16:29

Tbh I would hate when my step siblings would come around, step dad would treat them better and differently, even my mum would be nicer to them than me and compare etc. we were all similar ages and honestly never enjoyed there company. It was too much and I hated being around them and having them invade my space. I was one of 5, with half siblings so having more siblings wasn’t an issues it was that we were all very different. You’re asking someone to change their life to fit your wants and needs as her personal space has changed. It’ll drive a wedge between you and your daughter. You need to really focus on spending time with just her and making her feel valued, telling her to get on with it and or pushing the SC on them it’s just so not gonna work. It’s a tough one.

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 16:30

NotWorthTheHeadache · 29/05/2025 16:20

So you think posters here have gone out of their way to create new email addresses and MN accounts just to disagree with you? 🤣🤣🤣

Idk mate, some of them do some pretty deep sleuthing just to bring up (and exaggerate more than I thought was even possible) the tiniest details in anything you’ve ever posted, even under different names, and then magically all of the sudden you’ve got “ten different people” commenting remarkably similar, ridiculous, hateful things to you on completely unrelated threads. (Why? Do they not have anything better to do with their time? Who hurt them?)

I wouldn’t put it past someone to be logged into 10 different gmail addresses and have 10 different MN accounts just to harass and “pile on” other posters. Especially if they’re going against site guidelines by being insulting and having their accounts deleted on a regular basis.

CocoPlum · 29/05/2025 16:37

Scarfitwere · 28/05/2025 20:42

You can have all these things....you don't have to bloody live together along with whatever children/baggage this new man might have in tow!

Yes! This live like a nun or move in on date 3 mentality on here is hilarious.

I'm in a great relationship with DP, have been for a decade now ... we still don't live together. My teens agree that the reason they get on with him, and have a strained relationship with their dad and his partner is because they have never been forced to live with DP, unlike at their dad's.

I've had romance and sex and a great partnership without needing to move in together.

Nanny0gg · 29/05/2025 16:39

The OP is never coming back....

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 16:47

TomatoSandwiches · 29/05/2025 16:09

Please tell me why you need to move a new romantic partner into your child's home to experience love and companionship?

Some people don’t.

Personally, I temporarily lived apart from my husband for half of each week while his DDs stayed at our place, and I felt incredibly lonely and depressed. I missed waking up and falling asleep beside him. I missed cooking for him and sitting down at the table for meals together. I missed cuddling on the couch and watching movies and passing out like that. I missed welcoming him home from work and hearing all about his day. A FaceTime call over shitty Wi-Fi in a damp, overpriced, studio flat isn’t the same thing at all.

Which brings me to another point: I had to get a job and balance that with my heavy uni courseload and pay for the flat, and for petrol to drive back and forth. I can’t imagine that most people can afford to split the costs of a house in addition to another residence and all associated costs with the housing market being what it is today, without having to get another job.

Also, I got unexpectedly pregnant. (Long story.) I wasn’t about to cart a newborn back and forth and care for her on my own half the time.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 29/05/2025 17:31

sideeyes · 28/05/2025 21:05

Why oh why do parents insist on blended families at the expense of their own kids? Baffles me every time

Because it makes them feel better if they can pretend that everyone's happy and it's always like the Brady Bunch in their house. They are often in complete denial that their relationship choices have made their children unhappy.

Plus, for the non-resident parent it means they can chill at home or get on with the weekend chores while the children all just mooch about the house together, instead of having to actually plan ways of spending any proper time with them. The couple want to be together all the time, doing stuff jointly at weekends. Having to each cater individually to their own children's needs and preferences instead of just lumping them altogether seems like harder work. Except it isn't really, is it? Because if the children are happier and there are fewer sulks and bad atmospheres then it's easier in the long run.

I'm not saying people should always dance to their tunes of their children to the point where they can't have a relationship, but neither should they be forcing them to be around people they have nothing in common with or even actively dislike. Just because you two are in love it doesn't follow that your children are going to be great friends or good step-siblings to one another. Some of you need to stop flogging a dead horse and just accept that. And plan your family life accordingly.

NotWorthTheHeadache · 29/05/2025 17:47

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 16:47

Some people don’t.

Personally, I temporarily lived apart from my husband for half of each week while his DDs stayed at our place, and I felt incredibly lonely and depressed. I missed waking up and falling asleep beside him. I missed cooking for him and sitting down at the table for meals together. I missed cuddling on the couch and watching movies and passing out like that. I missed welcoming him home from work and hearing all about his day. A FaceTime call over shitty Wi-Fi in a damp, overpriced, studio flat isn’t the same thing at all.

Which brings me to another point: I had to get a job and balance that with my heavy uni courseload and pay for the flat, and for petrol to drive back and forth. I can’t imagine that most people can afford to split the costs of a house in addition to another residence and all associated costs with the housing market being what it is today, without having to get another job.

Also, I got unexpectedly pregnant. (Long story.) I wasn’t about to cart a newborn back and forth and care for her on my own half the time.

You’d really do well to read back your posts on this thread… it’s all ‘I wanted, I felt, I missed… Me, Me, Me’.

With such a self centred attitude it’s no wonder the children in your situation ended up suffering. And your behaviour is exactly the type of behaviour that people are judging on this thread. Putting your wants ahead of the needs of children. Can you not see how utterly selfish that is? Or do you just not care because you got your own way in the end to the detriment of the children involved?

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 17:58

I am explaining why it was important to me to live with my husband and the father of my child, in the context of responding to someone asking “why can’t people have romance without living with their DP.” Of course I’m going to say how I felt and what I needed.

Of course, my DSDs had their own feelings and needs too, and the biggest reason I had gotten the flat in the first place was to try to give them space until they felt more comfortable living with me. (That didn’t go to plan…) I care about those kids so much, and I can fully recognize and admit DH and I didn’t do things the right way. We made mistakes, and we learned from them, and we turned things around eventually.

Lifeislove · 29/05/2025 18:44

The OP has gone now.
2 posts and vanished.

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/05/2025 21:15

Chersfrozenface · 29/05/2025 14:17

In the UK it is officially considered inappropriate for opposite sex siblings to share a bedroom once the eldest turns 10. Those are the criteria for social housing.

Why tho

and I know of 4 families who have b/g and live in a 2 bed flat /house

there are not a supply of 3 beds about

Nanny0gg · 29/05/2025 21:24

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/05/2025 21:15

Why tho

and I know of 4 families who have b/g and live in a 2 bed flat /house

there are not a supply of 3 beds about

Why?

Privacy on entering puberty for one thing

FlakyCritic · 29/05/2025 21:29

Blondeshavemorefun · 29/05/2025 21:15

Why tho

and I know of 4 families who have b/g and live in a 2 bed flat /house

there are not a supply of 3 beds about

Is this a serious question? Do you really not understand how inappropriate it is for a teenage boy going through puberty, and a teenage girl going through puberty/periods to share a bedroom?

HANDholdplease0 · 29/05/2025 22:07

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 17:58

I am explaining why it was important to me to live with my husband and the father of my child, in the context of responding to someone asking “why can’t people have romance without living with their DP.” Of course I’m going to say how I felt and what I needed.

Of course, my DSDs had their own feelings and needs too, and the biggest reason I had gotten the flat in the first place was to try to give them space until they felt more comfortable living with me. (That didn’t go to plan…) I care about those kids so much, and I can fully recognize and admit DH and I didn’t do things the right way. We made mistakes, and we learned from them, and we turned things around eventually.

Can i ask how you managed to turn things around x

MellowPinkDeer · 29/05/2025 22:32

Nanny0gg · 29/05/2025 16:39

The OP is never coming back....

Why would she?? Everyone has been so judgy and nasty. @Alstaci hope you’re ok. Sorry this isn’t a safe place for step parents / blended families .

LastPostISwear · 29/05/2025 22:42

HANDholdplease0 · 29/05/2025 22:07

Can i ask how you managed to turn things around x

It took many years… A month before I was due to deliver DD, they suddenly packed up their things and went to live with their mum full time. DH was heartbroken, but he let them go. He told me that he didn’t feel like their parent anymore, with how little he was seeing them. I’m honestly glad they didn’t have to live in a house with a newborn who slept really poorly, or be made uncomfortable by breastfeeding, but I wished they could have come back after DD weaned.

For a long time, DH went and spent time with them outside of our house, and major holidays were celebrated early with DH, DD and I, and then we’d go to visit my family 6 hours away so DH could have DSDs over and celebrate with them. Holiday trips were taken first with DSDs, and then they would go home and DD and I would go meet DH at the destination.

Over time, this became a rather untenable arrangement, and it didn’t seem like my older DSD was coming around at all, even with occasional short outings all together. We tried celebrating holidays together, and it seemed like for a couple hours at a time, she would “forget” her grudge towards me and everything that happened with her parents’ divorce, and then she’d suddenly remember and become cold and withdrawn, or angry. We tried holiday trips together— mostly the DSC went off together and did their own thing, while DH, DD, MIL and I did ours.

Things improved with time. DD is just so full of love, and took to her eldest sister so readily, that I think she was disarmed. DSD figured out that the special birthday cakes she’d gotten every year and loved, which she was told were made by her father, were actually decorated by me. I think she had it in her head that step parents and step children are natural enemies, and that I hated her, so she hated me to, but she realized that wasn’t the case. She started accepting Christmas gifts that I had gotten her, and was less moody during the holidays (though still sad when it was time for her to depart.) We recently played this one card game as a family, and I was so shit at it that she laughed and laughed, and we actually had a good time together.

She graduated school and went off to uni in another country, and I think being away on her own was good for her. She made lots of friends and had her own space. She calls DH nearly every day now… I think the biggest change was a result of a recent incident where she asked DH to come and visit her at uni, and he was insistent to her that I should come as well.

She didn’t speak to him for a whole week. I actually talked it over with others here on MN, and they helped me to see that she just wanted some one-on-one time with her dad, for me not to invade this safe space she had for herself overseas, and to not feel like he was always choosing me over her. I told DH this and that I think he should go alone. He spoke to DSD about what I said, and now they have a whole trip planner together, to which DH is presently en route. I think that helped her to get her needs met, and to see that I’m on her side.

I’m looking forward to seeing our relationship continue to improve in the future.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/05/2025 00:33

Alstac · 28/05/2025 18:13

thanks all – can see i prob should’ve added more info

dsc are 13 (boy) and 11 (girl), they’re here eow and half school hols. dd has her own room, they share. we’ve lived together nearly 2 yrs now, been with dh about 4.

she’s always found them hard to be around tbh. dsd is very full on and loud, dss mostly ignores her. dd’s quiet and likes her own space and routine so it all clashes. they’re not nasty to her but she just doesn’t click with them. we’ve tried stuff all together but dd ends up upset or left out.

not looking to stop dh seeing his kids, obv. i just don’t want dd to feel pushed out in her own home. i don’t think she’s being dramatic, i think she just finds the change too much.

wasn’t expecting her to say she wants to go to her dad’s though – caught me off guard. part of me thinks it’d be easier for her but other part feels gutted she doesn’t feel comfortable here when they’re around.

i don’t think there’s a specific trigger but she’s got more anxious lately in general, probs not helped by all the noise and chaos when they’re here.

i don’t know what the solution is but it’s horrible seeing her unhappy x

Let her go to her dads then?! If he's willing to have her. Sucks for you that you won't get child free weekends though!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/05/2025 00:35

Meadowfinch · 28/05/2025 18:27

Given that you're married, you need to find a way around this.

Can you focus on your dd when the dscs are there. Arrange trips for just her and you. Spend time together. Make sure that your dd gets a lot of your attention when they are present.

She has her own room. Can you ensure she has tv, radio, wifi in her room. Spend time with her in her room, watching films or doing stuff together. Exercise together, spend time with your extended family on those weekends. Visit the places she likes.

Leave the Dscs to spend time with their dad.

I think this is the best advice

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/05/2025 00:37

Bedrooms - on weekends when step kids are there, op goes with her daughter in daughters room and step son goes with his dad in his room

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/05/2025 06:53

FlakyCritic · 29/05/2025 21:29

Is this a serious question? Do you really not understand how inappropriate it is for a teenage boy going through puberty, and a teenage girl going through puberty/periods to share a bedroom?

im saying only happens in social housing

people who have a mortgage or rent privately don’t have this option

sone don’t have more children

some b/g siblings share

or many in a council property have another 2/3 and claim for a larger house

decades ago many siblings shared

yes there is puberty obviously but as my play above states I know diff sex siblings who share