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What to do when step son suddenly wants to live with us?

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Msl1980s · 26/01/2025 23:54

Tried to make this shorter but it's difficult to do as feel I need to explain the back story!
I've been with my partner for almost 10 years.
Met him when his son was 9 and I got along very well with him then. He's now 16. His mum was a pain in the backside when ss was younger, using him and turning him against my partner a lot but as ss got older and he's wiser up to his mum that's all been sorted. Partner and ex don't really speak to each other as no need now as is a teenager.
We have two young children between us 4 yrs and 20 months. The 20 month old is a bit of a handful, tried everything to sort it and he's slowly getting better, but he can have a proper tantrum at times which results in a lot of screaming and we just have to wait for him to calm down. Nothing wrong with him just trypical toddler behaviour .
Ss has never made an effort with the kids and I said that's fine, there's a huge age gap so understandable but he wouldn't even sit in the same room as them if they were eating as found it "disgusting" . He's stopped coming over so much because he finds our son "annoying", and he also says he has better Internet at his place. We also make him help tidy up at ours, nothing major as he's barely here long enough but do the dishwasher etc.
His mum used to get annoyed when he didn't come here much as she had a boyfriend and wanted the house to herself however she's now single and seems happy with ss being there more. She's always molly coddled him, has never taught him to be independent, does a the cleaning, washing etc. She also has a 5 year old daughtwr who lives with them and sees her dad every weekend (they don't get on at all but that's a diff story).
He started at college this year but isn't enjoying it and changed courses already, although I totally get it, what 16 year old knows what they want to do!?
We are going to be moving an hour away this year and downsizing to a 2 and half bedroom flat in order to save money and help with a family business.
Ss has now said he will prob come live with us after college..... We've asked where that has come from because we've talked loads about moving and he's never been remotely interested. We will be a in a tiny village with nothing to do. There will be no room for him apart from to stay the odd night as the half bedroom is an office, which will be used daily but with no space for anything else like wardrobes and def no TV or PlayStation space.
He's also never interested in coming over unless it's someone's birthday and he knows we will be going out for dinner (he won't eat anything healthy).
EG this weekend, asked him ages if he will be around this weekend as likely will be doing something but didn't know what and he said no.
Now mentioned we are going out for dinner with my side of family (that we only see once a year) which has been booked for months and he' said "OK I'll come". We've said its too late now as it was a squeeze getting us in to the restaurant, and have no way of getting there now as using a smaller car but it's clearly because we've mentioned we are going for dinner.

We mentioned 2 years ago that we would probably be going away in the school term time as cheaper and he was fine with that but last year did a big very expensive holiday with whole family which he came to.
This year have booked a holiday with our family and sister and their kids (who ss has said he doesn't like as too noisy) in the school time and he's said we should have asked him. Just fyi we didn't pay for it as have no money as are saving so parents kindly paying.
We've said we wouldn't take him in school time because he's got college but he said he doesn't care but obviously we said that his education comes first.
His dad took him away last year to stay with a family member abroad and takes him to his grandparents to watch football regularly, because he refuses to go anywhere with his dad as doesn't want to be seen out with him (again typical teenager stuff). Partner is going to try and take him away this year (depending on money). Ss hasn't given his dad a birthday card, or present or Xmas guvr in 3 years, doesn't even text or call to wish happy birthday until I remind him to (his mum won't bother telling him to). Last year I forgot to remind him and he didn't call or text the whole day.
He's not a bad kid, usual teenager stuff, lazy, doesn't have many friends as doesn't seem to be interested in doing anything other than going on PlayStation. We've tried to get him to get a job but he can't be bothered and I know his mums got a lot of credit card debt as well as on all sorts of benefits, and barely works and he sees that as something to aspire to.

Not sure really what I'm after here. Just to rant and see what people think about the situation??

OP posts:
Simonjt · 26/01/2025 23:59

Why does his dad think its in anyway acceptable to move and not provide a home for one of his children?

Crankyaboutfood · 27/01/2025 00:00

it’s his dad. he is a teenager. he should not have to know things a year ahead of time or rsvp appropriately. it sounds as though you find him and inconvenience, and I get that he is. but also, his father is his father and it’s not really fair imagine you are relieved of responsibilities because of lack of interest or gifts from him.

Crankyaboutfood · 27/01/2025 00:00

Simonjt · 26/01/2025 23:59

Why does his dad think its in anyway acceptable to move and not provide a home for one of his children?

exactly

madamweb · 27/01/2025 00:02

Hes still a kid. His dad should always be ready and prepared to care for him and provide a home for him.

Zonder · 27/01/2025 00:05

Whose family business?

Why would you move to a 2 and half bed flat when you have 3 kids between you? Were you assuming dss would never visit?

It does sound a bit like you're making excuses for not having him.

healthybychristmas · 27/01/2025 00:07

Honestly if he moved in I would move out. I couldn't of coped with that kind of blended family.

crumblingschools · 27/01/2025 00:07

Why are you down sizing so much when there are 3 children? And moving away from his son?

Wasywasydoodah · 27/01/2025 00:09

your dss is going to feel pushed out, unloved, unwanted. I know he doesn’t do the things you thinks he should (cards, visits etc), but don’t kid yourself that this is anything other than a big ‘you’re not wanted’ message to dss.

Nyx13 · 27/01/2025 00:10

Feel sorry for the lad obvious you don't like him or want him with your nce new family

madamweb · 27/01/2025 00:11

Is this a weird reverse?
Surely noone moves miles away from their child, or buys a house and a car they can't fit the child in? Or excludes them from meals and holidays... Or at least surely noone makes those decisions and feels ok about it?

Gingerisgoodforyou · 27/01/2025 00:11

I think being an only child, where both parents move on and have another family is particularly hard.

I can imagine he's quite annoying, but as you say, 'usual teenager stuff'. Is moving while he's still a dependent child really the right time?

sesquipedalian · 27/01/2025 00:12

It can’t be easy for your SS, having much younger half siblings in both his DM and DF’s houses. I can understand that from your POV, you’d want to take your little ones who are not yet at school on holiday during term time, but I can also see that your SS will be feeling left out. If you’re moving to a small cottage where he can only stay the odd night, how are you expecting him to keep up any sort of relationship with his father? Again, from your SS’s POV, it must seem as though you just can’t be bothered with him. I can understand your surprise that he wants to move in with his father after college, and I can see that there might be problems with that even were you not about to move house, but your SS is part of your family, and I fear he is being made to feel that he is simply not taken into consideration at all.

graffittimonkey · 27/01/2025 00:17

The good news is, you haven't moved yet, you haven't sorted your new home yet and you now know that your SS wants to live with you, so you can amend your plans.

Look at cheaper areas where you can get a bigger place with room for him, perhaps somewhere with better transport links &/or things to do.

Your DH has three DC and he needs to house them all.

Emma6cat · 27/01/2025 00:19

Wow poor kid

Juiceinacup · 27/01/2025 00:28

Your DH is a disgrace, he has 3 children not 2 golden children and a disposable one, your attitude is appalling I would say what I really think but I would get banned.

RickiRaccoon · 27/01/2025 00:47

The crux is he may want to live with you when he's 18 and you're planning to move to 2.5 bedroom to save money? It is nice to make him feel included in the family and let him feel that he has a base to go back to while he's finding his feet as an adult. I suppose it depends how set this living arrangement and how liable SS is to change his mind about living with you. You wouldn't want to pay a lot more for an extra bedroom he doesn't need.

I'd say DH needs to sit down with SS and discuss his exact plans after college. If he lives with you, he probably needs to be working and contributing something to living costs. The reality is, if he has parents who can't afford extra bedrooms just in case he wants to stay there, he needs to make some definite plans for his adult living situation.

InternationalColossus · 27/01/2025 01:12

Your expectations of him are not realistic.

For instance — we have a 17yo who loves both of his parents dearly, and we all still live together, so he hasn’t dealt with half of what your ss has, although he does have challenges of his own. And he is absolutely nowhere near being on top of our birthdays, etc. without a reminder. I doubt he even knows when any of our birthdays are. although a celebration happens for each one annually. He would 100% not mention them if he wasn’t reminded.

Do we judge him for it? No, not at all. He’s a work in progress. He’ll get there. We love him.

And here you are, using little things like that to build a case for why you shouldn’t have to give your dh’s son a home. That’s pretty awful.

HoppityBun · 27/01/2025 01:13

Where is this young man to call his home?

LEWWW · 27/01/2025 01:14

Ermmmm why are you downsizing when you have 3 kids between you? What if his mum died? Or SS stopped getting on with her etc etc? Would you make him homeless? Cause you wouldn’t have any space for him…

You have a DH problem cause no way should he have agreed to move an hour away from his CHILD.

Willyoujustbequiet · 27/01/2025 01:32

Your DH has a duty to provide for his son.

Either you'll have to rethink your house purchase or your kids might have to share.

1smallhamsterfoot · 27/01/2025 01:33

Wow how's it gotta feel that your dada fucking off and won't even provide you room to visit??

ListenDontJudge · 27/01/2025 01:44

madamweb · 27/01/2025 00:11

Is this a weird reverse?
Surely noone moves miles away from their child, or buys a house and a car they can't fit the child in? Or excludes them from meals and holidays... Or at least surely noone makes those decisions and feels ok about it?

Precisely. This is cruel. You've not learnt enough about teen behaviour - disgusting attitude and will mess him up for life.

Onedaynotyet · 27/01/2025 02:31

So no one wants this boy. He has (through no fault of his own) no place where he is welcome home. He's 16.
His father plans 1. To move further out of reach.
2. To make sure there is no accommodation for him at the new place.

What are you asking here? The best brand of pop up tent to present to him?

FYI. Many teenage boys don't eat properly, forget birthdays, and avoid the company of screaming pre school children. They're not usually made homeless for this behaviour.
Just as your 20month old is being typical toddler, your partner's son is being a typical teenager.

Poor, poor boy.

Eenameenadeeka · 27/01/2025 02:52

Why would you be planning to move an hour away, to a house that doesn't have a room for one of your children, in a place you don't think they'd want to live? Your partner needs to be able to have a home for all of his children.

Ponderingwindow · 27/01/2025 03:02

I think dad has no business moving away from his son or dropping a bedroom. His son his not fully launched. Dad isn’t free to move or downsize until that happens.

step son wanting to move in should be a non-issue. He simply starts staying more nights in his space at the home he shares with his father instead of the home he shares with his mother.

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