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To think OH shouldn’t be paying towards SD & BM’s holiday?

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user1488481370 · 02/06/2024 23:48

BM is taking SD (14) on holiday abroad for the first time in the summer holidays.

It’s an all inclusive and according to BM is going to cost 3.5k for 2 of them all in.

I don’t begrudge either of them a holiday however, today, during pick up/drop off BM mentioned said holiday and said she’d just paid it off last week. She then proceeded to ask OH to pay his £500 towards said holiday!! PLUS spending money (which we were going to give her anyway)

AIBU or is this cheeky AF? I absolutely do not begrudge them a holiday but we never have and never would expect BM to contribute to a holiday that we were taking SD on. In fact, when we last went away with SD, 4 years ago, she didn’t even send her with a tenner!

Sounds like she’s asked him a while ago and he’s agreed (he agrees to everything to keep the peace) but we’re in a really tight position financially right now. We’re buying the food shop on credit cards, into our overdraft, need a new roof on the house as water is leaking into our DD’s bedroom and desperately need a new bathroom too as the floor has rotted away.

Im so upset as I know that if I say anything then I’ll be the big bad SM but I can’t see how this is really OH’s responsibility. She gets £350 maintenance every month plus half of all clubs/school trips and uniforms etc.

I just can’t see how this is fair.

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user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:23

@Loubelle70 not really the point.

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Azerothi · 03/06/2024 07:25

I'm not, and would never, ever be with anyone with children but I don't understand why the father can't make his own decisions without all this grief from his current girlfriend.

OP what did you think would happen when you discussed all this with your boyfriend before having or bringing more children into a relationship where money is very tight, either his children or yours, or joint?

You haven't taken the daughter away for* *4 years so the amount you are being asked to contribute and to which your boyfriend agrees with, is a pittance in the grand scheme of things.

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:28

@Azerothi money wasn’t tight when our other children were born. As I’ve said, our financial situation has changed. We’ve both taken on extra employment to try and make ends meet.

We can’t afford it, it’s not grief it’s being realistic!

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 03/06/2024 07:29

Ozanj · 03/06/2024 03:38

I feel for her. The reason she probably can’t afford holidays is because he only pays her £350 a month. It doesn’t matter if that’s all he / you can afford, and it doesn’t matter what CMS might legally mandate, it‘s still shit.

She just stumped up 3.5K without a second’s thought. She’s not taking her daughter to Butlins - she obviously can afford a holiday.

Testingprof · 03/06/2024 07:29

futherdaysahead · 03/06/2024 06:56

£350 is not a pittance

Remember the mother is supposed to contribute equal aswel. That's means £700 a month just on his daughter.

Then the mother has to pay for accommodation, bills etc and so does the dad so his daughter has a decent home with him and with her mum.

He is always paying half of clubs etc on top and pays for his gather when she is with him. Probably much more like £500 a month for his child.

I don't have £500 a month to just spend on clubs etc for each of my children so let's get real.

Yes if he was earning well but OP says he's not. They are buying food on a credit card and haven't been on holiday for 4 years it's not like they are living the life of luxury.

3.5k on a holiday for two people says it all she clearly isn't on the breadline.

Sorry OP I don't think you can afford it. Perhaps you could say to SD's mum you can increase the month payment by £50 for the next 10 months or £100 for the next 5 months just to cover the £500 extra

It’s not half of what is costs to actually raise a child as a lone parent though so it isn’t actually enough. Each parents should be equally responsible for their child/children.

https://cpag.org.uk/policy-and-research/findings-our-projects/cost-child-reports

link so people can see its costs more to raise a child as a lone parent.

The Cost of a Child reports

In 2023, the cost of raising a child to age 18 is £166,000 for a couple and £220,000 for a lone parent.

https://cpag.org.uk/policy-and-research/findings-our-projects/cost-child-reports

Loubelle70 · 03/06/2024 07:31

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:23

@Loubelle70 not really the point.

Its a point.
If shes single mum she doesnt have the income your family does.
DD shouldnt miss out on what your kids dont miss out on

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:31

@Loubelle70 shes married!

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user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:32

@Loubelle70 where does it say, anywhere that my children went on holiday and SD didn’t?

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Aubree17 · 03/06/2024 07:35

Ozanj · 03/06/2024 03:38

I feel for her. The reason she probably can’t afford holidays is because he only pays her £350 a month. It doesn’t matter if that’s all he / you can afford, and it doesn’t matter what CMS might legally mandate, it‘s still shit.

Well there's nothing stopping her increasing her earnings.

It's not shit. It's what the OP can afford. And as they said they can barely afford that.

As he's agreed to the holiday I think he needs to pay.

But make it clear his budget cannot extend to further holidays.

Is your business viable - or keeping you on the breadline? Would one of you bring in a full time job reduce the pressure?

futherdaysahead · 03/06/2024 07:36

@Testingprof
She's not a single mum though

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:38

@Aubree17 we’ve got a lot of stock to sell it’s just the wrong time IYSWIM. We should be ok when it’s sold.

We've both taken on additional employment in the last month which should really help. Going to be a busy couple of months but we’ll manage.

I completely agree, he’s said he’d pay it so her should. Just wish he’d discussed with me before agreeing.

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NashvilleQueen · 03/06/2024 07:40

The fact that she's married and presumably therefore not managing the cost of mortgage, bills etc alone would have been helpful info from the beginning.

I don't think that the amount your DH pays (£350 pm + 50% of clubs etc) is paltry so long as it is proportionate to his income. How often do you have SD? That obviously impacts the amount he should be paying.

The issue here is that he has unilaterally committed to paying £500 from your household income for a holiday when you haven't got sufficient funds to meet your own basic needs. It's hard to see how he can go back on that if the booking has been made on the understanding that he will be contributing but I can see why you are so annoyed.

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 07:42

@NashvilleQueen sorry, I didn’t know whether I’d have been jumped on for bringing it up in the first instance.

We have SD every weekend and around 80-90% of school holidays.

No, I quite agree he’s agreed to pay it and it’ll have to be found somehow.

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Inmynotgivingafuckera · 03/06/2024 07:45

I think you need to focus on sorting out your own finances - this is the issue, not that he’s offered to make a contribution towards a summer holiday.

Testingprof · 03/06/2024 07:48

futherdaysahead · 03/06/2024 07:36

@Testingprof
She's not a single mum though

Well that information wasn’t in the op, it’s still not 50% of what it costs to bring up a child.
Does your OH contribute more or less than £350 a month to your children?
He’s made an agreement with his ex and he should stick to it and it sounds like you don’t agree with how he chooses to spend his money so you should work on not having a business together or actually paying yourselves a proper salary each, he does have separate responsibilities.

Dhsidygsy · 03/06/2024 07:50

He should tell his ex he can't afford the £500 plus spending money and he'll just give his dd £50-100 in cash. It doesn't matter that he already promised. If his ex kicks off then just ignore. She's obviously not skint.

It doesn't sound like he treats his children equally and seems to prefer his eldest DD. I couldn't stay with a man like this. He can afford to give £££ to his ex but can't afford to feed his children?? He's awful.

WoodBurningStov · 03/06/2024 07:55

The old mn saying comes I here 'you have a dh problem'

The mum can ask, I do agree it's cheeky but she can ask. It's up to your dh to discuss this with you and come to an agreement. If you're putting the food shop in a cc then he shouldn't have said he'd contribute

CandiedPrincess · 03/06/2024 07:56

Testingprof · 03/06/2024 07:29

It’s not half of what is costs to actually raise a child as a lone parent though so it isn’t actually enough. Each parents should be equally responsible for their child/children.

https://cpag.org.uk/policy-and-research/findings-our-projects/cost-child-reports

link so people can see its costs more to raise a child as a lone parent.

I have three kids, two of which are adults now. It's NEVER cost me near what those reports like to throw around as the cost of raising a child.

There is no way he should be contributing towards their holiday. It's up to him to take his daughter on holiday on his time. If he's offered it, then that's on him, but he really doesn't need to be.

I never got paid any CMS because we had 50/50 and paid for our own stuff on our time. As a lower earner, this meant my ex-DH took them on foreign holidays but for me that wasn't possible. Just the way it is.

babasaclover · 03/06/2024 08:00

He shouldn't have agreed to pay towards a holiday without discussing HOWEVER £350 a month will likely just about buy food for his child - it is a pittance I'm afraid and does not contribute in any way to the raising of that child.

Sorry you find yourself in the terrible housing situation.

NashvilleQueen · 03/06/2024 08:00

So on the basis of the amount of time you have SD the financial contribution doesn't seem unreasonable.

You need a plan for your own finances factoring in the £500 but I'd be saying no to spends. If it's AI they shouldn't be spending much anyway.

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 08:03

@babasaclover really? I spend just over than a month for 5 of us on food! I don’t accept that SD will eat her way through £350 worth of food per month.

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NashvilleQueen · 03/06/2024 08:03

@babasaclover it's £350 pm plus they pay half of clubs and activities on top. And they also have SD every weekend and 80-90% of the school holidays.

Theoldbird · 03/06/2024 08:04

user1488481370 · 02/06/2024 23:55

He could but it seems a bit shitty to do this when he’s already agreed to. I’m just so annoyed with him. Even if we were financially better off, I’d still think it was incredibly cheeky but this is literally going to be taking the food out of my children’s mouths.

He needs to tell them he can't. yes it's shitty, but he needs to learn to say no. if he doesn't do it now he'll never learn. Don't let him wriggle out of it. It will be uncomfortable for him, which is a good way to learn not to be generous with family money.

Soontobe60 · 03/06/2024 08:07

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 08:03

@babasaclover really? I spend just over than a month for 5 of us on food! I don’t accept that SD will eat her way through £350 worth of food per month.

I spend around £700 a month in food for 2 of us

user1488481370 · 03/06/2024 08:08

@Theoldbird I feel like he has to pay it now he’s said he would. And then in future be more considered

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