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I can’t stand my DSC

726 replies

holywow · 26/01/2024 21:25

I already know how this is going to go but i need to know how to unpick my feelings or change how I feel before it gets worse.
I will try not to harp on with myself but I just can’t bare my DSS any longer. He verging on probably the most irritating person I’ve ever met and I can’t work out how it’s come to this. It’s at the point where I am considering ending my marriage because I can’t bare to see him on a weekly basis any longer and I hate myself for feeling this way towards an 8 year old boy and worried about the damage that’s it’s going to do or already doing to him and the relationship between him and dh. The dread and anxiety that I feel as the weekend approaches is getting worse and worse. This started around the end of my pregnancy with my own DS (3yo) and has got gradually worse up till this point.

I’m so fed up of our home being chilled and calm during the week but then pandemonium every weekend when he arrives.
Im sick of the pity party for him off dh and his family.
Im sick of having to ask DSS mum permission every single time we want to book something like an abroad holiday or a few days break and then the arsing around choosing dates that she agrees to when I just simply want to book a holiday for my family and for my own ds to enjoy.
I hate hearing ‘daddy can I have can I have can I have’ all weekend.
I hate that I try my best to parent my 3 year old a certain way then all my hard work coming undone at the weekend when DSS arrives.
i hate that my 3 year old can’t play with his toys in peace instead of being teased and wound up by an older child who isn’t here during the week.
I can’t stand that every single Friday and Saturday night, without fail, we’re woken several times a night because DSS wants dh to get in his bed.
I resent how I want another baby so badly but they won’t get their own bedroom and will have to share with DS as DSS absolutely has to have his very own bedroom at our house even though he has his own bedroom at his mums.

I resent absolutely everything and I don’t know how to stop it. I never used to be like this before my own child was born!!

OP posts:
Justkeeepswimming · 28/01/2024 11:58

I will reiterate OP

  1. seek to have the custody arrangement adapted to something more suitable.

  2. have a shared parenting agreement drawn up and a shared calendar online and accessible to all to make sure everyone knows of DSC’s appointments, school calendar and so forth.

  3. book yourself a weeks long holiday in the sun immediately.

  4. seek therapy because you have suffered trauma around the birth of your child and it is clouding your perceptions and judgements.

  5. seek to reconnect with your step son, this is not your fault and he is taking all the flack other things and people in your life that have and are causing you distress.

Justkeeepswimming · 28/01/2024 12:00
  • this is not HIS fault
Coyoacan · 28/01/2024 12:06

I would have thought that the input of people who have been stepchildren would be very valuable on a step-parenting board.

But the OP only wants people to agree with her.

Many years ago I had a job minding a couple of children. The little boy was very difficult and I couldn't warm to him. So chucked the job in as soon as I reasonably could. No child should be looked after by someone who hates them. (It turned out that the parents were keeping him up until midnight on school days, so he was so overtired he was not rational).

I really do think, like so many other people, that the OP should separate from her husband and give the poor child a break.

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/01/2024 12:19

IsPutinDeadYet · 28/01/2024 11:55

If you have no experience in being the OP's position you're not qualified to advise really, are you?

Or did you just want to have a go at her?

Pissed off step mums were also aghast at the idea of disliking a child, once upon a time. Lived experience changes people.

No there are lots of step mums here appalled at the OPs attitude and a few other posts seeking to justify it.

I speak from lived experience in a blended family. I'm still horrified at the nastiness directed at a young boy.

Babyghirl · 28/01/2024 12:26

@Howbizarre22
You take from my post that I'm a child hater 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 while I sit here with my toddler jog on, alot of step kids think they are more important cause they are from the first family, and play up at dad's house cause they know dad is a Disney dad and won't challenge them in fear of refusal to return, so most of the time the kids know what they are doing and how to play at it

IsPutinDeadYet · 28/01/2024 12:34

Babyghirl · 28/01/2024 12:26

@Howbizarre22
You take from my post that I'm a child hater 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 while I sit here with my toddler jog on, alot of step kids think they are more important cause they are from the first family, and play up at dad's house cause they know dad is a Disney dad and won't challenge them in fear of refusal to return, so most of the time the kids know what they are doing and how to play at it

Accurate.

My DSS actually implemented the 'refusal to return' technique as he didn't like being told off for mistreating his toddler brother.

Cue dad tying himself in knots worrying about whether he'll want anything more to do with him and whether he'll ever come back again.

He did, but now dad is too worried to tell him off for unacceptable behaviour incase he refuses to come round again, so he gets away with being cruel to my DS by not even acknowledging his presence.

And people wonder why we become resentful.

But sure, step children can do no wrong.

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 12:35

I’m not challenging OP’s behaviour purely because she is a SM, I am challenging it because of the level of venom aimed at 8yo.

If OP had started a thread asking for advice because before the birth of her child she had a wonderful relationship with her DSC, but since the birth she was struggling with that relationship but she had used caring words towards her DSC and she was desperate to get that previous relationship back, then many posters including myself would have been more sympathetic towards her, regardless of the fact she is a SM. The issue is the level of venom and vitriol aimed at a young child.

Babyghirl · 28/01/2024 12:41

@IsPutinDeadYet

It awful isn't it, when they don't get challenged for poor behaviour, it dosnt make for an easy or great relationship with them tbh, do you ever pull him up in his behaviour towards you son, for if the father was refusing to I would in a polite Manor tell him to stop it. No way should your poor son have to put up with it just to keep the peace.

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 12:46

@IsPutinDeadYet but most of that behaviour is down to dad not parenting, why resent the child not the dad?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 12:57

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 28/01/2024 09:16

My stepkids would be horrified if I tried to claim that I was now their mum just cos I married their dad. As would their actual mum.

Has anyone suggested that should be the case?

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:02

PinkEasterbunny · 28/01/2024 08:37

Would anyone really enjoy having to spend every single weekend with someone else’s child???

Should think of that before you take on a man who has children already.

The husband here is spending every weekend with his children.

I still haven't seen one sensible explanation why it's so appalling that a father should spend every weekend with his children. Whining by stepmothers that "it's not fair" isn't a good enough reason.

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:10

I think it is very sad where people are suggesting the dad should reduce his contact time

arethereanyleftatall · 28/01/2024 13:11

PinkEasterbunny · 28/01/2024 08:37

Would anyone really enjoy having to spend every single weekend with someone else’s child???

Nope. Which is why I'd never get in to a relationship with someone who has/potentially has this life.

But if you've made the decision to anyway, then you've made your bed, and have to lie in. Because it isn't the child's fault that you didn't think things through probably. It's yours.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:13

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:10

I think it is very sad where people are suggesting the dad should reduce his contact time

It really is.

LaDerniereVacheFolle · 28/01/2024 13:15

Indeed. How many times do we need to repeat this ?:

*It isn't the child's fault

It isn't the child's fault

It isn't the child's fault

It isn't the child's fault

It isn't the child's fault*

Is it getting through to the mentally challenged yet?

Nanny0gg · 28/01/2024 13:25

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:02

Should think of that before you take on a man who has children already.

The husband here is spending every weekend with his children.

I still haven't seen one sensible explanation why it's so appalling that a father should spend every weekend with his children. Whining by stepmothers that "it's not fair" isn't a good enough reason.

Because 'in theory' weekends are, in part, quality time.

No rushing to school or work.

So why doesn't his mum want two a month?

And then one or two days in the week he's with his dad

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:29

Some parents have to work at weekends.

Also, as has been seen on many threads on here, where DC have to move between homes it is a nightmare if they have clubs, activities, parties at weekends and one parent refuses to facilitate these on their weekend. Might be easier for routines if at same home at weekends

PinkEasterbunny · 28/01/2024 13:29

OP, please don't disappear, this board needs step parents

Willyoujustbequiet · 28/01/2024 13:30

Nanny0gg · 28/01/2024 13:25

Because 'in theory' weekends are, in part, quality time.

No rushing to school or work.

So why doesn't his mum want two a month?

And then one or two days in the week he's with his dad

Well yes it would be preferable if dads stepped up and had equal time...so they get to pull their weight with school and childcare too. It shouldn't all fall to mum.

Nanny0gg · 28/01/2024 13:30

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:29

Some parents have to work at weekends.

Also, as has been seen on many threads on here, where DC have to move between homes it is a nightmare if they have clubs, activities, parties at weekends and one parent refuses to facilitate these on their weekend. Might be easier for routines if at same home at weekends

Well if they're not facilitated in this case, it doesn't appear to be his father responsible for that

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:30

And remember contact is for the child, if the child likes weekends with dad why not have weekends with dad?

karmakameleon · 28/01/2024 13:31

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:02

Should think of that before you take on a man who has children already.

The husband here is spending every weekend with his children.

I still haven't seen one sensible explanation why it's so appalling that a father should spend every weekend with his children. Whining by stepmothers that "it's not fair" isn't a good enough reason.

I think in this case it’s because of the mother’s lack of flexibility. If you take the holiday situation, OP can never have a two week holiday abroad with her child and DH because the DSS isn’t allowed to go abroad with them and the DH would need to be back at home to take the DSS for the weekend in the middle. I can imagine that would be frustrating for the OP. But not the child’s fault and she’s taking it out on the wrong person.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:32

crumblingschools · 28/01/2024 13:30

And remember contact is for the child, if the child likes weekends with dad why not have weekends with dad?

Your post is like a lightbulb going on. It's the child who should come first.

TryingToBeLogical · 28/01/2024 13:50

This situation offers some cautionary tales about how people view things from totally different perspectives. If a newborn baby was very ill in a NICU during COVID that is for sure an emergency situation where its father should be there. But - without excusing anyone’s behavior (let me say it again: without excusing anyone’s behavior), let’s take a look at how other people may have experienced the situation.

The 8 year old counts on seeing his father every weekend. He’s been told (or hopefully been told, if his parents have even the slightest clue about how kids think) that his dad will still love him and be there for him despite the arrival of the new baby. And now (remember he’s only 8 and thinks like an 8 year old) the new baby has only been here a few hours, and dad is already not coming to get him. (Probably, no one told the 8 year old how critical the situation was with the new baby either).

Th ex wife is likely fearful that once the new baby arrives, the father will lose interest in the 8 year old and begin making excuses not to see him. (It happens). And what she sees is, lo and behold, her fears are already coming true, right away. As an adult she should certainly be able to see the urgency of the NICU situation, but there is no other data yet to indicate that the dad will, indeed, continue behaving the same way towards the 8 year old. Maybe she does not know the seriousness of the baby’s condition either. She feels like she should hold a firm line and insist that the father keep his word about coming to get the son, because otherwise it sets a precedent for excuses and it’s a “give an inch, take a mile” type situation. Does that justify her insisting? No, but this fear could explain why she insisted.

It would have been wise for the dad to prep the 8 year old in advance for the chance of an emergency during the new baby’s delivery. And to have prepared an emergency plan for backup care of the son, one agreed to with the ex-wife in advance (so she would not have been able to insist the dad come get the 8 year old, having already agreed to the alternate emergency plan, even if that was something as simple as the kid staying with her that weekend). That way no one could have acted out of surprise from their fears.

The father could have explained to the 8 year old, “I expect to be coming for you this weekend as usual but sometimes things go wrong in the hospital when babies are born. Your mom and I already talked about this and if it happens, you’ll stay with your mom just until I can come get you, it may be a few days but I want you to know it’s only because it’s an emergency and I will be calling you and talking to you and missing you and will let you know when I will be there to get you.”

Thinking through another person’s perspective and potential fears means you can address them in advance. And then, those fears aren’t triggered and those people don’t react out of fear, because they have been reassured the thing they are fearing isn’t actually happening.

Is this annoying? To have to deal with other people’s fears, understand their perspectives, and pre-“manage” potentially damaging behavior? Yes, but it can result in a better outcome for you (and, you yourself have fears and likely sometimes react out of fears that you’d rather not have triggered, right?). It would have stopped the OP from developing so much resentment towards the 8 year old if the situation with the NICU and hospital hadn’t occurred. (That poor new baby is probably the subject of resentment, too, because of all the bad feelings generated).

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 28/01/2024 13:54

TryingToBeLogical · 28/01/2024 13:50

This situation offers some cautionary tales about how people view things from totally different perspectives. If a newborn baby was very ill in a NICU during COVID that is for sure an emergency situation where its father should be there. But - without excusing anyone’s behavior (let me say it again: without excusing anyone’s behavior), let’s take a look at how other people may have experienced the situation.

The 8 year old counts on seeing his father every weekend. He’s been told (or hopefully been told, if his parents have even the slightest clue about how kids think) that his dad will still love him and be there for him despite the arrival of the new baby. And now (remember he’s only 8 and thinks like an 8 year old) the new baby has only been here a few hours, and dad is already not coming to get him. (Probably, no one told the 8 year old how critical the situation was with the new baby either).

Th ex wife is likely fearful that once the new baby arrives, the father will lose interest in the 8 year old and begin making excuses not to see him. (It happens). And what she sees is, lo and behold, her fears are already coming true, right away. As an adult she should certainly be able to see the urgency of the NICU situation, but there is no other data yet to indicate that the dad will, indeed, continue behaving the same way towards the 8 year old. Maybe she does not know the seriousness of the baby’s condition either. She feels like she should hold a firm line and insist that the father keep his word about coming to get the son, because otherwise it sets a precedent for excuses and it’s a “give an inch, take a mile” type situation. Does that justify her insisting? No, but this fear could explain why she insisted.

It would have been wise for the dad to prep the 8 year old in advance for the chance of an emergency during the new baby’s delivery. And to have prepared an emergency plan for backup care of the son, one agreed to with the ex-wife in advance (so she would not have been able to insist the dad come get the 8 year old, having already agreed to the alternate emergency plan, even if that was something as simple as the kid staying with her that weekend). That way no one could have acted out of surprise from their fears.

The father could have explained to the 8 year old, “I expect to be coming for you this weekend as usual but sometimes things go wrong in the hospital when babies are born. Your mom and I already talked about this and if it happens, you’ll stay with your mom just until I can come get you, it may be a few days but I want you to know it’s only because it’s an emergency and I will be calling you and talking to you and missing you and will let you know when I will be there to get you.”

Thinking through another person’s perspective and potential fears means you can address them in advance. And then, those fears aren’t triggered and those people don’t react out of fear, because they have been reassured the thing they are fearing isn’t actually happening.

Is this annoying? To have to deal with other people’s fears, understand their perspectives, and pre-“manage” potentially damaging behavior? Yes, but it can result in a better outcome for you (and, you yourself have fears and likely sometimes react out of fears that you’d rather not have triggered, right?). It would have stopped the OP from developing so much resentment towards the 8 year old if the situation with the NICU and hospital hadn’t occurred. (That poor new baby is probably the subject of resentment, too, because of all the bad feelings generated).

That's a great analysis. The child was however only 5 then which makes your points even more pertinent.