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Should DP tell DSD's mum we have got engaged?

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Whattodo17xx · 13/09/2023 16:05

Just that really. My DP has just told DSD (9) that we've recently got engaged. We've been together 4.5 years & lived together for 3. DSD seemed absolutely fine with the news...typical kid really. Didn't see it as a massive thing I don't think and was out playing in the garden in the next breath!

DSD is due to go back to her mum's on Friday. I have to be honest, neither my DP or myself (though I understand it's not up to me) even thought about texting DSD's mum about the engagement, but a work colleague and a family member both asked me how his ex took the news. This took me a little by surprise I'll admit so presuming they thought we had told her already.

My question is, would you let the ex wife know? I know it's not totally relevant but I wouldn't say they have a great relationship and really have only ever communicated the bare minimum with each other...

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Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:10

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:05

It's not fact, it's you having a tantrum.
I'm a first wife, my DH told his ex GF he was marrying me and he he didn't tell the random ones from god knows when, he told the one whose childs life was going to be affected.
I can't understand why you are getting in a tizz over a quick text, why are you so insecure? 🤷‍♀️

Another classic, new woman must be insecure, isnt that just so easy to chuck around to circumnavigate why mummies feel the need to remain so relevant? How about rather than being insecure, we are entitled to our own boundaries in our relationships, like most people are, that don't include progress reports to the ex. Honestly, you are so textbook. Are you that insecure that you aren't important to your ex husband anymore that you have to insist on being included in his major life events out of "decency"?

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:11

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:05

It's not fact, it's you having a tantrum.
I'm a first wife, my DH told his ex GF he was marrying me and he he didn't tell the random ones from god knows when, he told the one whose childs life was going to be affected.
I can't understand why you are getting in a tizz over a quick text, why are you so insecure? 🤷‍♀️

Also, you didnt need to mention that you are a "first wife", it was pretty clear. But Im glad you making sure everyone knows you were No.1 made you feel better.

gogomoto · 14/09/2023 15:15

Yes polite to do so. I would say something along the lines of "just to let you know we have decided to get married, will let you know the arrangements as relevant to dsd once we have them, no timeframe yet." Obviously from your dp not you.

It's an FYI not for approval or otherwise

gogomoto · 14/09/2023 15:17

Dp's exw texted him to let him know despite the dc being adults, it's just polite.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:18

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:10

Another classic, new woman must be insecure, isnt that just so easy to chuck around to circumnavigate why mummies feel the need to remain so relevant? How about rather than being insecure, we are entitled to our own boundaries in our relationships, like most people are, that don't include progress reports to the ex. Honestly, you are so textbook. Are you that insecure that you aren't important to your ex husband anymore that you have to insist on being included in his major life events out of "decency"?

Still ranting about nonsense.
I literally just stated that I'm the first wife, and a SM, I don't have an ex husband.
Mummies (and daddies) actually don't need to cling to relevance. They are relevant via their child.
I don't consider that DHs ex was in any way involved or consulted or included in our engagement. She was told it was happening so she could have her reaction in private then hopefully arrange her face for DSD, which she did. The end.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:20

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:11

Also, you didnt need to mention that you are a "first wife", it was pretty clear. But Im glad you making sure everyone knows you were No.1 made you feel better.

Haha hilarious that you are sticking by your incorrect assumption about me.

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:22

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:20

Haha hilarious that you are sticking by your incorrect assumption about me.

Im incorrect but you felt the need to state it. You are a walking contradiction. Trying to put me down to minimise my POV is not a valid argument, its a sign of poor communication skills. You should think about that.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:24

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:22

Im incorrect but you felt the need to state it. You are a walking contradiction. Trying to put me down to minimise my POV is not a valid argument, its a sign of poor communication skills. You should think about that.

You should think about why you assumed I was the ex just because I think your argument is wrong.
I felt the need to state it to correct your incorrect assumption, which you then missed entirely in the midst of your tirade.
Food for thought.

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:37

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:24

You should think about why you assumed I was the ex just because I think your argument is wrong.
I felt the need to state it to correct your incorrect assumption, which you then missed entirely in the midst of your tirade.
Food for thought.

Given how invested you are, if you arent the ex now, you are certainly concerned you will be soon. Good luck with that.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:43

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:37

Given how invested you are, if you arent the ex now, you are certainly concerned you will be soon. Good luck with that.

Am I? I don't know. DH and I seem quite happy, ex seems quite happy, kids seem quite happy.
You sound a bit disgusted by your step kids existence on the other hand. Let's not unpack that baggage here though.

Bubop · 14/09/2023 15:43

Yes, I think it’s really important that his ex knows. A parent remarrying can bring up lots of confusing emotions in a child (even if they seem happy/unaffected).

Her mum needs to know so that she can support her at her home too.

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:46

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:43

Am I? I don't know. DH and I seem quite happy, ex seems quite happy, kids seem quite happy.
You sound a bit disgusted by your step kids existence on the other hand. Let's not unpack that baggage here though.

I have not spoken about my SC's in the slightest, merely my "disgust" surrounding entitled first wives/mothers. Yet another text book thing to throw around. My SC's are fantastic, looking forward to their new sibling and the eldest would rather live with us than his bio mother. Dont let that burn too much though.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:56

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 15:46

I have not spoken about my SC's in the slightest, merely my "disgust" surrounding entitled first wives/mothers. Yet another text book thing to throw around. My SC's are fantastic, looking forward to their new sibling and the eldest would rather live with us than his bio mother. Dont let that burn too much though.

My apologies, I mistook all the ranting about "mummies thinking they are important" and having kids being crap and trapping men who etc as bitterness. Obviously there is no bitterness in you. 🫣

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 16:01

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 15:56

My apologies, I mistook all the ranting about "mummies thinking they are important" and having kids being crap and trapping men who etc as bitterness. Obviously there is no bitterness in you. 🫣

Only bitterness through lived experience over the last 10 years. Living surrounded by "certain" unreasonable, unpleasant and self important people can have that effect on you. Maybe that's why my step son would rather live under our roof, who knows

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 14/09/2023 16:03

CeeceeBloomingdale · 13/09/2023 16:37

Yes she should be told as she parents the child too. I’d get him to text her a simple “just to let you know we have got engaged and told DD about it, we’ve asked her to be bridesmaid and the wedding date is ... or any other relevant information at this stage.

I agree with this approach - just a polite heads up

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 16:07

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 16:01

Only bitterness through lived experience over the last 10 years. Living surrounded by "certain" unreasonable, unpleasant and self important people can have that effect on you. Maybe that's why my step son would rather live under our roof, who knows

I get that. Ex was a fucking nightmare when we got engaged and notched up when I got pregnant. Totally an issue with no longer being the "Mother of His Child" as you say.
Still, just because she was a knob to DH he wasnt going to be a knob to her and leave DSD in an awkward position. No chance.

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 16:14

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 16:07

I get that. Ex was a fucking nightmare when we got engaged and notched up when I got pregnant. Totally an issue with no longer being the "Mother of His Child" as you say.
Still, just because she was a knob to DH he wasnt going to be a knob to her and leave DSD in an awkward position. No chance.

And we didnt do that either, we didnt want the boys having news they were really happy about being stamped all over. But I have always felt it deeply upsetting the need to give our good news to someone that absolutely doesnt feel its good news. Its hurtful, I cant imagine when she went around telling people she was engaged, that they'd have been making spiteful comments about it. But thats something I've had to let go. And I guess I feel strongly that thats been hard for me to do so I dont advocate for other women having to bow down to ExW when its only to their own personal detriment. And thats the whole thing being a SM, very little of the good and a hell of a lot of putting all your own feelings aside for everyone else. Its been brutal and its changed me. Ive never said a bad word in front of them, only ever supported their mum, despite the nasty things the youngest has told me she has said (ADHD so very little filter), Ive had to be the best version of myself when I've been screaming inside. I wouldnt change it all now, but Im not sure I'd have done it all again.

Thisusernamenotavailable · 14/09/2023 16:22

Read the replies carefully and take the advice of the most rational sounding people. Congratulations.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 16:25

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 16:14

And we didnt do that either, we didnt want the boys having news they were really happy about being stamped all over. But I have always felt it deeply upsetting the need to give our good news to someone that absolutely doesnt feel its good news. Its hurtful, I cant imagine when she went around telling people she was engaged, that they'd have been making spiteful comments about it. But thats something I've had to let go. And I guess I feel strongly that thats been hard for me to do so I dont advocate for other women having to bow down to ExW when its only to their own personal detriment. And thats the whole thing being a SM, very little of the good and a hell of a lot of putting all your own feelings aside for everyone else. Its been brutal and its changed me. Ive never said a bad word in front of them, only ever supported their mum, despite the nasty things the youngest has told me she has said (ADHD so very little filter), Ive had to be the best version of myself when I've been screaming inside. I wouldnt change it all now, but Im not sure I'd have done it all again.

You did the right thing by the kids and ultimately it didn't cost you anything as she was going to shit all over it either way whether she heard it from your DH or the kids so what was the difference?
There will be so many moments when your own child is here where you absolutely will have to hold the line where the ex is concerned, telling her you were engaged really was the least of it 💐

Noicant · 14/09/2023 17:28

Backagain23 · 13/09/2023 18:02

DH did. He always made sure to tell DSD any big news first, then let the ex know. Often kids have meltdowns on returning to their RP and this is the kind of thing that could quite easily seem fine over the weekend then all the feelings come popping out all over mum when she asks "how was your weekend with dad".
You aren't asking for permission, you are informing her about something significant in her childs life.

Agree with this.

fairyfluf · 14/09/2023 17:43

allmyliesaretrue · 14/09/2023 12:35

I really don't agree.

Even if she can't stand the sight of your fiance OP, she should be afforded the courtesy of processing this news in private, not having it sprung on her by her DD. She loved him once, after all. It won't hurt to be humane and considerate!

Irrelevant. She's an adult. It's also slightly insulting to her to think she will need to process in private. She probably won't care.

fairyfluf · 14/09/2023 17:47

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 14:56

Have you no one else to bore. Its not nonsense, its fact. The whole "mother of his child" crap is so tiresome, its never relevant for the poor fathers, imagine blokes rampaging around the same as women going "but im the father of her child, I should be important"

Golden Uterus

BeenThereDoneThat101 · 14/09/2023 17:50

@backagain23 and @screwballs perhaps you should start your own thread to continue your personal sniping match?

Personally I think it all depends really on so many factors. It concerns me that so many people are thinking along the lines that the ex should be told to “support” the dc and what they’re going through. I would assume that if the relationship is a longstanding and serious one the children will already be well established, and so an engagement shouldn’t be something which is going to affect them in any way. Why should it? Apart from the actual wedding day, nothing will really change for them. Pregnancy IMO is a different matter because that is a major change in their lives.

From my own DCs perspective, they actually knew before she did, because eXH told them he was going to propose and even showed them the ring. I think really to see how they would feel about it.

They didn’t really have much of an opinion really. Engagement meant very little to them, and although there was talk about the wedding etc after. And ten years on they’re still “engaged” with a child, and no talk of ever getting married so a big announcement or even a heads-up wouldn’t really have meant anything.

Backagain23 · 14/09/2023 18:09

@BeenThereDoneThat101 oh are we not allowed to discuss the OPs question on this thread?
Got it. 🤗

Screwballs · 14/09/2023 18:17

BeenThereDoneThat101 · 14/09/2023 17:50

@backagain23 and @screwballs perhaps you should start your own thread to continue your personal sniping match?

Personally I think it all depends really on so many factors. It concerns me that so many people are thinking along the lines that the ex should be told to “support” the dc and what they’re going through. I would assume that if the relationship is a longstanding and serious one the children will already be well established, and so an engagement shouldn’t be something which is going to affect them in any way. Why should it? Apart from the actual wedding day, nothing will really change for them. Pregnancy IMO is a different matter because that is a major change in their lives.

From my own DCs perspective, they actually knew before she did, because eXH told them he was going to propose and even showed them the ring. I think really to see how they would feel about it.

They didn’t really have much of an opinion really. Engagement meant very little to them, and although there was talk about the wedding etc after. And ten years on they’re still “engaged” with a child, and no talk of ever getting married so a big announcement or even a heads-up wouldn’t really have meant anything.

Perhaps you shouldn't reignite conversations an hour and a half after they ended. Are you feeling left out?