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DH invited step children to family gathering

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Gathering1 · 25/06/2022 17:30

My gran is having a small family gathering tomorrow evening for my grand and grandpa's anniversary. She is cooking food and it's only close family, me & DH, my parents, my child, my aunt and my two cousin's.

DH has known about this for a while although may have forgotten.

He's just told me that my step children are now with us tomorrow night so will need to come with us. This is because his ex now has plans and so he's agreed to have them.

AIBU to be pissed off? They barely know my gran or majority of my family (only really spent time with my parents on occasion) and I feel bad asking at such short notice to bring to extra people to a small gathering. My mum was saying she thinks my gran might worry about having enough food for everyone because she was already saying she hopes she has enough etc...

I've told him it's not on but he thinks I'm being unfair and why shouldn't they be invited to a family gathering which I'd agree with if it were his family but it's not and it's not even just that but the last minute-ness of it.

He either needs to tell his ex sorry but he can't because he has plans or stay home with them which is a shame considering he's known about this for ages and it's for my gran and grandpa.

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Fukuraptor · 26/06/2022 09:45

Your grandparents invited your family unit even though they aren't related to, or probably close to, your DH.

In our families, if a family unit was on some days 5 people and some days 3 people, then even if the original plan was for 3 people to come, if all 5 could come they would be welcome and we'd budge up, borrow chairs, put on a bit more food (although that probably wouldn't be necessary as all the hosts tend to over cater and sent food away with everyone). It just wouldn't be an issue, of course the children would come, it would be great to get a chance to meet them. We'd prefer that to half a family staying home.

I think it's interesting how evenly split the thread is, clearly other families have much more formalised meals that are precisely catered and inflexible, where extra mouths would be a burden and either rejected or accepted but resented.

What I'm struggling with is the idea that it is an imposition to even ask a day in advance if they could be accommodated. Because if the host is like me/my family where it wouldn't be a bother and a stress, there's no opportunity for us to tell the OP that (and she wouldn't believe us and think we were just being polite if we did).

Obviously she and her mother know the Grandmother and her capacity and the kind of events she hosts better than we do so she's the expert on this situation.

But in general in our families, expressing a "I hope I have enough food" before a family event is a bit of flapping from someone who has already catered for well over what we need to (as evidenced by copious leftovers), and not a deep distress.

I can accept that the OP knows her family better whilst still thinking that it all sounds very stiff, formal and not how I'd want family members to treat an event I was hosting.

There's a difference in my mind between the SC not being vital to an event with distant steprelatives (so being left out by it occuring whilst they are with their mum) and it actively saying we can't have them because of the event or they'll have to stay at home with their dad because they aren't invited/expected.

Some family events aren't much fun for kids, that's true. But if that's the case I think it's a bit weird to take one sibling and not the others, if Dad is staying home with brothers/sisters then I'd give the younger one this option too. Rather than reinforcing a blood relatives versus step children division.

I know you didn't ask for this this weekend and it made sense to you that your unit of 3 do stuff with your relations when you are 3 and not 5. But maybe you need to think about whether that habit means that you can't turn up at your relations as a unit of 5 with a day's notice when that's unexpectedly an option.

Out of genuine interest, because I struggle with these unspoken social rules if the SC would have been welcome if it was their weekend, and one day's notice was too short, how much notice would have been acceptable?

MultiBird · 26/06/2022 09:47

BigFatLiar · 26/06/2022 09:45

We all (I hope) do things we'd rather not for our other halves and perhaps he was happy to attend. I have no idea of the relationship between her OH and his ex, doesn't sound like 50/50, he could have said no but would that have gone down well? Perhaps the idea of pissing of his ex is seen by him as a bad idea while he tries to maintain a relationship with the kids.

OP has said he could have said no. She's also said they sometimes ask mum to have the DC extra. But he didn't say no, so now either he or they have to find a solution.

WimpoleHat · 26/06/2022 09:48

MultiBird · 26/06/2022 09:31

It wouldn't happen in my "circles" but it absolutely would happen in my family. I wonder if the issue is actually that OP isn't that close the gran (which is fine if that's the family dynamic). I know my gran would have been very annoyed to discover that we'd had this issue and hadn't talked to her about how to squeeze them in.

You can’t make that assumption about the OP and her gran at all! This is clearly a really, really special event for this lady - I’m assuming diamond wedding? Which she’s chosen to celebrate by cooking a meal for her children and grandchildren. It’s bloody awful to hijack that at the last minute with “oh - Gran - you don’t mind if I bring Peter and Jane and they sit on their phones while Grandad is making a heartfelt speech about your life together?”. If it were sausage rolls and quiche on Boxing Day? Sure - fair enough. The OP could bring a plate of sandwiches to ease the food load and nobody would mind at all. But this is a bit different - and, given that the OP’s DH has wanted a babysitter so that the OP can go to his grandfather’s special party - he must know it is too.

Iwonder08 · 26/06/2022 09:52

Sometimes I think 'step-parenting' forum should be just renamed to 'bitter ex-wives' to manage everyone's expectations in the nature of replies any step parent will get irrespective of the situation.

lancsgirl85 · 26/06/2022 09:59

@WimpoleHat
Precisely

OhJanet · 26/06/2022 09:59

Iwonder08 · 26/06/2022 09:52

Sometimes I think 'step-parenting' forum should be just renamed to 'bitter ex-wives' to manage everyone's expectations in the nature of replies any step parent will get irrespective of the situation.

Yup! Nail on the head there.

MultiBird · 26/06/2022 10:04

WimpoleHat · 26/06/2022 09:48

You can’t make that assumption about the OP and her gran at all! This is clearly a really, really special event for this lady - I’m assuming diamond wedding? Which she’s chosen to celebrate by cooking a meal for her children and grandchildren. It’s bloody awful to hijack that at the last minute with “oh - Gran - you don’t mind if I bring Peter and Jane and they sit on their phones while Grandad is making a heartfelt speech about your life together?”. If it were sausage rolls and quiche on Boxing Day? Sure - fair enough. The OP could bring a plate of sandwiches to ease the food load and nobody would mind at all. But this is a bit different - and, given that the OP’s DH has wanted a babysitter so that the OP can go to his grandfather’s special party - he must know it is too.

FGS, no one would expect/allow them to be on their phones during a "heartfelt" speech 😆

Youseethethingis1 · 26/06/2022 10:05

I know you didn't ask for this this weekend and it made sense to you that your unit of 3 do stuff with your relations when you are 3 and not 5. But maybe you need to think about whether that habit means that you can't turn up at your relations as a unit of 5 with a day's notice when that's unexpectedly an option
What are you suggesting then? As far as I can see there are two options if that "habit" must be broken:

  1. OP, DH and DS exist in a state of suspended animation waiting for the DSC to come back before they can go anywhere or see anyone as a unit of 5. OPs childs opportunity to see his own maternal family is reduced to only when his siblings can also be present.
  2. Unit of 5 drastically cuts down the time the DSC have to spend with their own paternal relatives as now that time must be shared with their step mothers relatives. All childrens opportunity to see own paternal family is therefore vastly reduced. How is either option in any way desirable? Why can we not just be realistic about how much time is available and who is actually related to who in any meaningful way?
lancsgirl85 · 26/06/2022 10:07

Iwonder08 · 26/06/2022 09:52

Sometimes I think 'step-parenting' forum should be just renamed to 'bitter ex-wives' to manage everyone's expectations in the nature of replies any step parent will get irrespective of the situation.

It's why I don't post here 😂

lancsgirl85 · 26/06/2022 10:09

Why can we not just be realistic about how much time is available and who is actually related to who in any meaningful way?

I imagine because that would be far too fucking sensible, and of course it doesn't put the SCs on a pedestal above everyone and everything...

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:11

I'm not going to leave our son at home for those suggesting it. My gran wants him there and his cousins will be there too.

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Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:11

DH is staying home btw.

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lancsgirl85 · 26/06/2022 10:14

@Gathering1

Does your DH acknowledge he was a total inconsiderate arse here by not discussing this in advance with you? I hope so. Seems a shame he is now missing out on a pre arranged family event.

And why on earth would anyone suggest not taking your own son? Who does that benefit? Confused

WimpoleHat · 26/06/2022 10:14

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:11

DH is staying home btw.

That’s probably the best solution to the unfortunate set of circumstances (that he’s created). But next time he’s expecting you to get a babysitter for your son to go out with his kids on their own, or to do
something that’s a big deal for his family, I’d remember it…..

Summerwetordry · 26/06/2022 10:15

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:11

DH is staying home btw.

Good. I'm glad that your DGPs will not have to stretch the food, find extra chairs etc. Your DH has been very thoughtless and, hopefully, will not agree to accommodate his ex's social life when he has a commitment. Lesson learnt?

funinthesun19 · 26/06/2022 10:17

Wow did people say your son should stay at home? I’m struggling to see the logic there. Why would that be a good idea?
I doubt dsc would be made to miss their family occasions.

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:21

funinthesun19 · 26/06/2022 10:17

Wow did people say your son should stay at home? I’m struggling to see the logic there. Why would that be a good idea?
I doubt dsc would be made to miss their family occasions.

Yes. And it's been suggested that I shouldn't go either 🤣🤣 why on earth I'd do that is beyond me.

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funinthesun19 · 26/06/2022 10:22

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:11

DH is staying home btw.

That’s the best solution all round. It means no catering for last minute guests. Your DH can cook his kids some tea seeing as he chose to have them round.

WindyKnickers · 26/06/2022 10:23

Ha ha. Not a bitter ex wife, and generally don't have a bad word to say about ex's new wife. However the fact that they never get invited along to her family stuff does bother me. I feel like they like to keep my kids seperate and that they are a bit of a dirty little secret when it comes to her family. Not necessarily her fault, I'm sure it is ex preferring his life to be compartmentalised but it does annoy me that older step kids on mumsnet are more often than not an inconvenience that need to be hidden away because they spoil the perfect family image.

Youseethethingis1 · 26/06/2022 10:23

@funinthesun19
Of course it was, isn't it obvious that a young child would not be bothered about spending time with his own DGPs just be because his older half siblings can't (reasonably) be expected to be equally as enthused?

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:25

However the fact that they never get invited along to her family stuff does bother me

Why does it bother you what her family does when your kids aren't there? It's none of your business.

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Scianel · 26/06/2022 10:25

OP it's kind of a win, you're definitely off the hook for the next couple of social engagements featuring DH's elderly rellies.

Fukuraptor · 26/06/2022 10:26

It's not (from me) a hating on SM thing. It feels like it's a difference of formality/casualness in respect to family events.

In the OPs case she knows her family culture and grandmother best. I'm just checking that she's considered that she's not being overly concerned with politeness/etiquette to a level that the host may consider completely unnecessary. Because as a host me/my family would rather have them all there despite sorting out extra chairs/setting up a table for the kids/extra plates or food.

Sometimes the invitee to something might not understand that. The OP seems to think the the Grandmother would say yes but it really would be too much trouble and cause distress. She wouldn't believe her if she said it wouldn't be a problem. I find this social dance too complicated, what if the GM would love to be host the whole unit of 5 and meet the kids? Why couldn't she say if it wasn't going to be possible at short notice because of x?

It feels like being over protective of the GM, but I appreciate maybe there's good reason for that. Her health and capacity plays into this. My frame of reference is based on our very capable older female relatives who wouldn't want to be patronised, are very hospitable but also have the wherewithal to say no, or delegate tasks/bringing extra food etc if necessary. But I appreciate that other personalities and level of health and ability exist. YMMV.

lancsgirl85 · 26/06/2022 10:26

Yes. And it's been suggested that I shouldn't go either 🤣🤣 why on earth I'd do that is beyond me.

Don't you know the rules, OP? You, your DH and your children have to sit miserably at home and do nothing (well you can breathe but that's all), until the return of your stepchildren, at which time you have permission to spring into life and do all the things you like! They must not ever miss out on a trip to granny's. Never. 🥱🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Gathering1 · 26/06/2022 10:27

If my husband's ex (who I get on with well) said it bothered her what my family did / didn't do for her children I'd think she were a nosey fucker tbh.

My husband has never once shown any care or been bothered by what his exes boyfriends family do with DSC. I doubt he even knows what goes on. Because it's nothing to do with him.

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