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Step parent support thread

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Narwhalelife · 29/03/2022 12:53

I wanted to start a step parent support thread. I have been a step parent for 14 years now. We have had the full gambit (!) so i am pretty experienced Grin I also have a DD with DP.

I am appealing to other step parents to be open about their experiences and share in the highs and lows because it can be a taboo subject (the voice of step parents).

This is not a thread for ex wives to bash new partners or to insinuate that all step parents are evil and hate step children and other nonsense I have seen as a lurker on this site.

It’s for advice, chance to vent and just discuss the curious situation of falling daring to fall in love with someone that had children before you met ❤️

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pitchforksandflamethrowers · 13/09/2022 23:42

@Thelifeofawife so i can only answer based on my experience and obviously I will put it out there we are extremity fortunate that cost of running two homes isn't a major factor. There is a cost obviously we don't earn millions but it's comfortable to do this and practical.

You would think it would solve all the problems wouldnt you but it just makes new and unusual ones. Like people do not understand and will say wait but how do you do Christmas or birthdays or events ect and the truthful answer with dammed a lot of difficulty. I usually give a bland answer that holiday are tricky for everyone

Most people even when they know the background still are rather stumped. We have had to do this because DSC has hurt both children in my house, hurt other kids in the past and recently and hurt the family dog so badly we had to get it rehomed for the dogs well-being and safety. It's been ongoing problem with DSC but escalated massively. The problem being is she simply doesn't see a problem with what's she's done. At all. We tried positive reenforcement, punishment, reducing contact, withholding things she likes, nothing really made her reflect and be sorry. She is just not, so we thought right how do we do this because no one's going anywhere. Threw the rule book out and went ok what can we do . But it's so far removed from the normal, people distrust you, question your motives even if I explain trying to keep all children (including DSD from various forms of harm cause by themselves or caused the actions of another).

My situation is extreme enough for it to be worth it on some level but I would argue it's child lead and a last resort option we wouldn't be doing it unless the only other option was to split. My shared Dc with DH is always with me and doesn't visit the other home when DSC is present. So DC loses out time with their dad everytime he has DSC. Which is exactly what DSD has said she wants. She doesn't want to share me either but unfortunately I can't magic my kids away to spend every waking day with her so she gets one on one with me alone outside of contact and DH facilities that with having the other Dc

To answer your questions : (ask as many as you like) just in case someone stumbles across this and feels less alone it will be worth the essay lol 😂
how do you find this works for your relationship?

So sometimes it work's Brillantly actually I'm more grateful for DP when he's here and feels more like dating sometimes. I have my house back and I'm not always walking on eggshells. DH can parent how he wants to and my Dc don't see that so no conflict there. Less arguments for sure. Other days when the babies screaming and the toddler has been throwing up and I'm being sick and I really need my team mate, I resent being forced to be a single parent because a teen has backed us into a corner re this. She's made it plain she thinks DH should chose and wants mum and dad back together. One time I called DP with that exact situation and DSD chimed in but daddy we were gonna watch a film and took great joy in seeing him torn. DP stayed with her as I felt like a awful person for even asking, but less awful when DP told me that DSD ignored him all night. To her it wasn't about time spent with DH but keeping him away from us. So you have to accept that during contact you are essentially a single parent.

Is it worth it to remove the stress and drama,

It does in the sense I'm no longer fearing for my Dc to get hurt by "accident", conflict in parenting styles, and obviously my precious items can't be damaged further. Also means pets are now back on table and losing them was a massive blow to me tbh. It depends on the day, today it's a yes because I can say ok bye to all the drama caused by DSDs mum and DSD doesn't have unfettered access to me or my Dc with these "views"

or do you find it causes other issues because you don’t see DH as much and you’re not all one family unit?

You know this whole one big happy family isn't something that bothers me as much but bothers DP badly. I quite like (when all is well) alone time with my Dc. I actually quite like time with DSD but I recognise she can only do one on one and is at her best as such,neither one of us can change that. On Christmas birthdays it becomes a thing, as it's just a bit sad. I didn't sign up for this idea when I married DP, I feel bit tricked tbh. That said I did sign up for him and I do believe he's my missing half. As much as I want to throttle him most days. I recongise that this isn't what he wanted either and ultimately not what DSC wants either (because she wants to patent trap her parents and her liking me is a unforeseen complication lol) so we are all a bit unhappy with it so I suppose that's the definition of compromise.

I do think "I wish..." but I felt more like a outsider in my home before than now doing it this way. Now I have my safe place for my Dc and me and I'm safe in the knowledge that I'm not depriving a DSD of her dad and making DP chose. Do I worry for how I will explain it to the kids when they are older yes but hopefully we will have moved on from this at that point.

But there's few brave enough to say they wouldn't do the same to keep their kids safe. Arguably she's getting one on one contact time with her dad which neither of Dd or DS will get as they share his time when he's here.

If asked I will tell the kids why when older. I will also say this maybe a massive mistake on our part...but if it's this or losing my DP well I want to know I did everything I could to make it work. We simply had no other options tbh.

No regrets and all that jazz !!! Omg how long is this post ! (Ps sorry for typos feeding baby and typing at same time)

Thelifeofawife · 14/09/2022 00:24

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 13/09/2022 23:42

@Thelifeofawife so i can only answer based on my experience and obviously I will put it out there we are extremity fortunate that cost of running two homes isn't a major factor. There is a cost obviously we don't earn millions but it's comfortable to do this and practical.

You would think it would solve all the problems wouldnt you but it just makes new and unusual ones. Like people do not understand and will say wait but how do you do Christmas or birthdays or events ect and the truthful answer with dammed a lot of difficulty. I usually give a bland answer that holiday are tricky for everyone

Most people even when they know the background still are rather stumped. We have had to do this because DSC has hurt both children in my house, hurt other kids in the past and recently and hurt the family dog so badly we had to get it rehomed for the dogs well-being and safety. It's been ongoing problem with DSC but escalated massively. The problem being is she simply doesn't see a problem with what's she's done. At all. We tried positive reenforcement, punishment, reducing contact, withholding things she likes, nothing really made her reflect and be sorry. She is just not, so we thought right how do we do this because no one's going anywhere. Threw the rule book out and went ok what can we do . But it's so far removed from the normal, people distrust you, question your motives even if I explain trying to keep all children (including DSD from various forms of harm cause by themselves or caused the actions of another).

My situation is extreme enough for it to be worth it on some level but I would argue it's child lead and a last resort option we wouldn't be doing it unless the only other option was to split. My shared Dc with DH is always with me and doesn't visit the other home when DSC is present. So DC loses out time with their dad everytime he has DSC. Which is exactly what DSD has said she wants. She doesn't want to share me either but unfortunately I can't magic my kids away to spend every waking day with her so she gets one on one with me alone outside of contact and DH facilities that with having the other Dc

To answer your questions : (ask as many as you like) just in case someone stumbles across this and feels less alone it will be worth the essay lol 😂
how do you find this works for your relationship?

So sometimes it work's Brillantly actually I'm more grateful for DP when he's here and feels more like dating sometimes. I have my house back and I'm not always walking on eggshells. DH can parent how he wants to and my Dc don't see that so no conflict there. Less arguments for sure. Other days when the babies screaming and the toddler has been throwing up and I'm being sick and I really need my team mate, I resent being forced to be a single parent because a teen has backed us into a corner re this. She's made it plain she thinks DH should chose and wants mum and dad back together. One time I called DP with that exact situation and DSD chimed in but daddy we were gonna watch a film and took great joy in seeing him torn. DP stayed with her as I felt like a awful person for even asking, but less awful when DP told me that DSD ignored him all night. To her it wasn't about time spent with DH but keeping him away from us. So you have to accept that during contact you are essentially a single parent.

Is it worth it to remove the stress and drama,

It does in the sense I'm no longer fearing for my Dc to get hurt by "accident", conflict in parenting styles, and obviously my precious items can't be damaged further. Also means pets are now back on table and losing them was a massive blow to me tbh. It depends on the day, today it's a yes because I can say ok bye to all the drama caused by DSDs mum and DSD doesn't have unfettered access to me or my Dc with these "views"

or do you find it causes other issues because you don’t see DH as much and you’re not all one family unit?

You know this whole one big happy family isn't something that bothers me as much but bothers DP badly. I quite like (when all is well) alone time with my Dc. I actually quite like time with DSD but I recognise she can only do one on one and is at her best as such,neither one of us can change that. On Christmas birthdays it becomes a thing, as it's just a bit sad. I didn't sign up for this idea when I married DP, I feel bit tricked tbh. That said I did sign up for him and I do believe he's my missing half. As much as I want to throttle him most days. I recongise that this isn't what he wanted either and ultimately not what DSC wants either (because she wants to patent trap her parents and her liking me is a unforeseen complication lol) so we are all a bit unhappy with it so I suppose that's the definition of compromise.

I do think "I wish..." but I felt more like a outsider in my home before than now doing it this way. Now I have my safe place for my Dc and me and I'm safe in the knowledge that I'm not depriving a DSD of her dad and making DP chose. Do I worry for how I will explain it to the kids when they are older yes but hopefully we will have moved on from this at that point.

But there's few brave enough to say they wouldn't do the same to keep their kids safe. Arguably she's getting one on one contact time with her dad which neither of Dd or DS will get as they share his time when he's here.

If asked I will tell the kids why when older. I will also say this maybe a massive mistake on our part...but if it's this or losing my DP well I want to know I did everything I could to make it work. We simply had no other options tbh.

No regrets and all that jazz !!! Omg how long is this post ! (Ps sorry for typos feeding baby and typing at same time)

Thank you, this was a very enlightening and helpful read.

It must be so hard for you with two little ones. But I also understand the value of a calm home.

Christmases, birthdays & holidays hadn’t even occurred to me when considering if this could be an option for us. It made my heart sink to be honest, because that’s the reality of the situation, how can we do those things together if we can’t do normal days together, ultimately we wouldn’t be a family unit with SD so it would be strange for all concerned.
For your family I guess it’s slightly different in that it’s your SD who is instigating it so she doesn’t want to do those things as a family, meaning you and your DH can do those things with your joint DC.

The joint DC is also a factor for me. We currently just have one child each but not together, but we had planned to have a baby once we got married. I’ve been a single parent before, but I just figured if I had another baby when I was married that I wouldn’t be on my own. I don’t know if it would just cause resentment for me.
The way things are going I also feel that SD has the potential to “accidentally on purpose” hurt another child out of jealousy. I have also had to tell DH not to leave her alone with our dog as she was winding her up and being rough knowing the poor dog didn’t like it.

I find it interesting with your SD, that she is effectively wedging herself between you and your DH & DC, yet she wants one on one time with you. To be honest I think you’re a credit, not many could bring themselves to make special time for SD in your situation.

You really seem to have nailed it with your empathy for your DH, whereas I feel so undervalued by my situation and it’s causing me to feel frustrated as time goes on, despite me really wanting my marriage to work. I feel constantly torn.

I don’t know where DH and I will go from here, we want to be together but I’m struggling with the way things are, and our situation isn’t even as bad as yours (yet) x

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 14/09/2022 00:58

@Thelifeofawife well I always think that compromise usually means that everyone to a lesser degree is unhappy with the outcome solution. I am or was hoping it would be temporary the situation but if not well tbh. My life is much simpler now frankly and no one can say well your stopping her from seeing her dad (I'm actively encouraging one on one time) and I have told her it's her choice and she's account alone for those choices and I won't force her to engage as a family but we will still always be family.

I both me and DH had one each and then later have had one shared. And I have to say having a joint child helped in our case as it wasn't a them vs us situation because there was a bridge between the camps (as it were) and DH couldn't justify treating own child differently to another. It's helped in so many ways my lovely miracle baby.

Re DSD I have said it before and I have said it again, I have no idea but she's more possessive over me and my time with her than she is with DP. With me she wants to be with me chatting doing stuff ect. DH well it's just more him being around. I can't really get my head around it actually but honestly I find her interesting smart and quirky. Obviously I do not like what's she's done with Dc and have to protect them but it doesn't stop her from having good qualities I appreciate.

I do hope she will come around. We have all made mistakes, personally I think it's weird version of testing me/pushing me away to see if I walk, where's the limit ect, I think she just would prefer I didn't have any children tbh and acts in her head in a way to ensure she gets me or DH or both on our own. It's clever if you look past the moral/emotional side of it.

I think maybe it's a good idea to try space away or have a bolt hole you can say babe I wanna go with Dc to have a break just me and them. You might find the space helps. Pressure cooker can only be released when you let some of the hot air escape and all that jazz !

Bonheurdupasse · 14/09/2022 07:39

@pitchforksandflamethrowers
As DSD only responds to some things that affect her - can you not actually use those?
She is getting the best of all worlds while putting everyone else in a shitty situation.
So consequences - less of what she wants from you: less time with you - you can say your DC need you, now that they have less time with their father. And less time with the horses.

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 14/09/2022 08:07

@Bonheurdupasse the horse time was stopped for a while (month or so) but sadly enough the daft horse was pinning for her so we have done one evening a month atm. Contact was also amended to suit (something I wasn't thrilled about tbh) but it had to be done.

This is a massive shift from what we used to do (frequently each week). Although given what's she's said of late that might just have to stop. It was helping teach her about caring for animals because you cannot bully a horse. She seems to have grasped the horse element but struggling transferring it humans.

It's frustrating. No one wants their kid to be a bully, and although she's not my kid biologically speaking, I feel partly responsible. Esp if I do nothing and she hurts a another kid. I don't want to give up on her. Everyone else is doing head in sand. But I have 0 control...

It's a sad state of affairs that this is the option that is least detrimental to my MH.

Sorry btw everyone my last post doesn't make a lot of sense I was tired out of my brain (teething baby).

Anyway today I'm feeling sad. I will get over it I'm sure. It feels like constant rejection from all sides. I'm tired.

Bonheurdupasse · 14/09/2022 08:49

@pitchforksandflamethrowers

I'm so sorry you're in these crappy circumstances...
I wouldn't see it as giving up on her, I would see it as teaching her, through natural consequences - so that the world doesn't harshly teach her later.
Would you not say to her - I don't want to see you anymore because you hurt my DC and don't want to understand why that is wrong.
And leave it at that, keep repeating the same to anything else she says.

Bonheurdupasse · 14/09/2022 08:52

@pitchforksandflamethrowers

I'm so sorry you're in these crappy circumstances...
I wouldn't see it as giving up on her, I would see it as teaching her, through natural consequences - so that the world doesn't harshly teach her later.
Would you not say to her - I don't want to see you anymore because you hurt my DC and don't want to understand why that is wrong.
And leave it at that, keep repeating the same to anything else she says.
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DuchessDarty · 14/09/2022 09:13

@pitchforksandflamethrowers that sounds hard. As your DSD is autistic then any approach has to be centred round that otherwise it’s unlikely to work. Your DH needs to step up and get some occupational therapy support for your DSD if he hasn’t already.

I think one of your posts implies that DSD’s mother is neurodiverse too? I know you’ve shared previously that you are also autistic and that your now 4 year old is also neurodiverse. I speak from experience that a lot of neurodiversity in one family is tricky! Your DH really needs to ensure he is communicating in the best way with his DSD and ex wife.

pitchforksandflamethrowers · 14/09/2022 10:28

@Bonheurdupasse thank you that's very good advice.

@DuchessDarty bird of a feather flock together. That's the approach we have taken to ensure all the kids are safe and happy (somewhat). It's just a bit rubbish. I didn't want this for our family but it is what it is. I can't speak for mum but she's said she thinks she might be (and I would hazzard a guess and agree with her) but swings between that and believing in it (I can't go down that rabbit hole btw - I suspect it's her families influence who strongly don't believe in Nero diversity and just believe in it's just naught kids 🙄) and maybe has mum feeling ashamed like she has to hide and also hide DSD ?

DSD has help for her asd in forms therapy/support and she willingly goes to that but in everyone's head that's separated, maybe it shouldn't be ? Idk tbh

I don't think her ASD is the cause of her hurting the other kids. I suspect actually there's another factor at play that she needs help (maybe trauma or something ? I'm guessing) with potentially she doesn't feel comfortable sharing with her current support. That help is very much in one box for her and I do respect that. If dad won't open up to her current help, it seems obvious to get someone she feels more comfortable with in addition?

I am frustrated with everyone tbh. Everyone was singing from dammed same hymn sheet, and suddenly mums done a u turn- something must have happened.I will probably reach out to mum see what's going on, and why the change in gear. We do get on (bar the money situation which has come from nowhere again).

I'm only a sm, I would be treating this very differently if I was but lack the dammed teeth to do anything. Everyone needs to be on the same page but people keep wandering off...

NightOwl101 · 08/11/2022 12:01

I'm not sure if anyone is still here but I've had brilliant advice before and hoping for some again in my ever complicating life of step parenting

CornishGem1975 · 08/11/2022 12:26

Go for it @NightOwl101

NightOwl101 · 08/11/2022 15:04

CornishGem1975 · 08/11/2022 12:26

Go for it @NightOwl101

Thank you!

I'll try keep it brief!

All the issues with had that I've mentioned previously with my DSD and she decided not to see us as punishment and she was bullying my DC at the same school ect...

Her behaviour and things she was saying pushed my DP mentally to the extreme edge and he is still in the most horrific place.

He's meeting up with DSd for the first time in 8months. He's spoke to her mum who thinks she wants contact to resume on her terms, so visits when she wants for how long she wants and we take her home when she wants.

The things she has done to my DD I'm not ready to get past. If another child had done and said the things she had I would never welcome them into my home and she isn't sorry at all.

I want my DP to have a relationship with her I really do but I don't 😔 I feel awful for even saying and thinking it but I'm just done with it all. If she wasn't my DSD she isn't a child I would want to influence mine. She knows she has DP in a corner and has said that he needs to learn he can't tell her off or she won't come ect... he will now dance to her song

I am awful aren't I 😔

aSofaNearYou · 08/11/2022 15:10

@NightOwl101 not awful at all! I can't understand how anybody could expect you to feel differently about your child's bully!

NightOwl101 · 08/11/2022 18:07

I feel at a loss

Sarahzxcvb · 08/11/2022 19:03

NightOwl101 · 08/11/2022 15:04

Thank you!

I'll try keep it brief!

All the issues with had that I've mentioned previously with my DSD and she decided not to see us as punishment and she was bullying my DC at the same school ect...

Her behaviour and things she was saying pushed my DP mentally to the extreme edge and he is still in the most horrific place.

He's meeting up with DSd for the first time in 8months. He's spoke to her mum who thinks she wants contact to resume on her terms, so visits when she wants for how long she wants and we take her home when she wants.

The things she has done to my DD I'm not ready to get past. If another child had done and said the things she had I would never welcome them into my home and she isn't sorry at all.

I want my DP to have a relationship with her I really do but I don't 😔 I feel awful for even saying and thinking it but I'm just done with it all. If she wasn't my DSD she isn't a child I would want to influence mine. She knows she has DP in a corner and has said that he needs to learn he can't tell her off or she won't come ect... he will now dance to her song

I am awful aren't I 😔

In your shoes I wouldn’t forgive her either. She wouldn’t be welcome in my house either.

You are not awful.

CornishGem1975 · 08/11/2022 19:40

Wouldn't be welcome in my house either @NightOwl101 It sounds like you and your DP have been out through hell. I'd support contact resuming but it can take place elsewhere and no overnight stays. She doesn't get to dictate the terms. I'd be putting my DC first.

Thelifeofawife · 08/11/2022 19:50

CornishGem1975 · 08/11/2022 19:40

Wouldn't be welcome in my house either @NightOwl101 It sounds like you and your DP have been out through hell. I'd support contact resuming but it can take place elsewhere and no overnight stays. She doesn't get to dictate the terms. I'd be putting my DC first.

This! Absolutely he wants a relationship with his DD but not to the detriment of your own child. I’d be saying for him to take her out somewhere, or when she visits you go out with your child somewhere fun.
She sounds like an absolute brat, dictating that she won’t visit unless she gets what she wants. It’s boundaries she needs not bowing down to. I feel for you

User39498 · 08/11/2022 22:08

If she hasn’t seen him for 8 months, forget about everything else, it would make sense for him to see her outside of the house for an hour or two alone, perhaps for a month or two.

It would be odd to go back to full contact in the house immediately.

I’m not surprised you feel at a loss and I know my suggestion sounds just short term but I think they resume contact in a sensible way and then worry about the rest if and when it happens, everyone might find quality one on one time outside of the home actually works better for everyone. If it doesn’t turn out that way then you can worry about it later down the line.

CountryCatLady · 08/11/2022 22:27

Hi all,

I have been watching this board for a while now and hoping you lovely ladies might be able to offer some advice.

My DP has 2 kids 50:50. Ds8 and DD 6. His DD is generally happy go lucky and flexible. His DS not as much (mum has a Adhd referral pending) and has struggled with the breakup, his mum in particular. The kids mum had an affair and the kids have been introduced to 3 different guys in the past 18months.

I think the above, along with DPs DS nature is making it challenging for him and I to have a positive relationship. Sometimes we get on great, others he is rude to me. To be fair to DP if he is in earshot he does deal with it, doesn't just let it slide.

Some of it, DP and I think, is to do with mum's bfs not sticking around, so he doesn't want to get attached to me and then I leave. Which I can total understand how he is thinking
What I am looking for is any tips you guys might have for making sure DPs DS and I build a good foundation of friendship and respect, so that when the trickier ages come along we are all at a better starting point.

Also I should mention, it is likely his son will live FT with DP when he is older.

TIA

NightOwl101 · 09/11/2022 07:33

aSofaNearYou it's very much being treated as now 'oh well they don't go to the same school anymore so she won't get away with it again' it's all been so dismissed

Sarahzxcvb thank you

CornishGem1975 we have been through hell and we're still very much there now. This is just a snippet of an insight into the problems she's caused 😔

Thelifeofawife we always said if contact were to resume he needs to see her independently for a long time and consistent before anything or anyone else is considered. He's trying to change that narrative now and is saying how it's cold so walks won't be manageable for long so trying to dismiss everything,

I agree there needs to be boundaries in place but she knows she has the power by refusing contact, her mum jumps all over it and she has outwrite told DP he needs to learn.

When we spoke I asked what about my DC he said oh yeh we'll make sure she's comfortable it will be fine. I said what about me he said your an adult so your feelings are irrelevant because you know children come first.

I'm dreading how to have the conversation that I don't want a relationship with her or the children too but I support him in anyway possible to have one

SudocremOnEverything · 09/11/2022 07:52

@NightOwl101 I’m not surprised it’s all being minimised. I think you are completely right to have protecting your DD as your main priority.

I don’t think contact in the house is appropriate at this point either. You’re not being horrible. It’s the reality of the situation. Especially when it’s al being approached in the DSD’s terms - the way it’s been framed makes it clear that it’s a long way from going back to contact as it was (except with the DSD in charge!).

Your DH should spend time with her out of the house. Redevelop a relationship and, by doing that, work towards a situation where he can safely have contact in your DD’s home.

Do not feel at all bad for being a good mother with strong boundaries to protect your DD.

SudocremOnEverything · 09/11/2022 07:54

Also, don’t listen to the martyr stuff about shivering in the cold etc. it’s not lockdown; a walk outside is not the only option.

Thelifeofawife · 09/11/2022 07:59

It’s cold for walks but my DC and I wrap up and have plenty of walks this time of year (parks, etc) and grab a hot chocolate at the cafe or something.
Alternatively he could take her out for her tea or to visit family in the time he has her.

Even if she doesn’t go to the same school as your DD now it doesn’t change what she did and how your DD will feel about her.
And regardless of you being an adult in the situation, it was you who had to see your DD through that difficult time and your feelings absolutely do matter.
He’s being far too dismissive. He may not want to set boundaries for his DD but it doesn’t mean that you can’t set boundaries, it’s your home too and your child who was affected.
If it were me, at the very least I would want to be sitting down all together, making her apologise to DD, tell her you’re glad that she’s back but that bullying behaviour will not be tolerated again. She may well decide she doesn’t want to come next time but she will soon learn when she isn’t getting her own way. It’s hard, of course it is, she’s his child, but as long as he reminds her that he’s missed her and he’s glad she’s there then he’s offering her reassurance and showing she’s not being pushed away. If he sweeps this under the rug and let’s her take the lead you’ll all have a miserable time and your DD will have to endure her bad behaviour again.
You and your DP need a plan for each possible scenario so that you’re a United front when she visits

SudocremOnEverything · 09/11/2022 08:02

@CountryCatLady I think the tone for your relationship with your DSS will inevitably be set by your DP. He needs to make it clear to his DS that you must be treated with respect. Consistently.

Given the wider context, I think it’s best to not push for any particular relationship with your DSS right now. What’s happening in his mum’s house is beyond your control but is a clear influence. So step back and let him have the space. Be there, kind but neutral, and let his time with his dad be the focus.

That will take the pressure off him quite a lot. His dad really building up DSS’s feelings of security in their relationship can provide the anchor he needs when things at mum’s house are not stable. And, in time, he may feel secure enough to open up to a more meaningful relationship with you.

SudocremOnEverything · 09/11/2022 08:10

It’s really not that cold for walks if you dress appropriately. My toddler is like a particularly high energy dog and must be taken for walks several times a day. He does not benefit from being cooped up. So we have a variety of layers that make being outside OK in just about any weather.

given the DSD is not a toddler, it’s likely that non-outside activities like sitting in a cafe, a browse in a local museum or even a mooch around the shops are good options (that don’t involve standing in the park in the pissing rain).

I think it’s simply a red herring. @NightOwl101’s DH is struggling with the reality that his DD has caused considerable harm and that will have ongoing consequences. It’s easier to minimise and try to sweep it under the carpet than you face up to things and discuss the trade offs openly so that his responsibilities to both girls can be met.

And he does have a responsibility to his DSD - it’s the responsibility to not make choices that make her home an unsafe place again by not parenting his challenging and troubled daughter effectively.

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