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Am I just being petty? (Sharing Subscriptions etc)

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PingedPotato · 14/11/2021 18:23

We pay for Netflix. The DSC wants to have the log on so they can watch it at mums. Fair enough I guess but then I thought no hang on.. we pay for that and mum is blatantly going to watch it. Also I don't want to go to watch something and be like oh no now I have to ask DH to text DSC to ask them to log off. Also they can see what I've been watching and it makes me feel a bit like privacy being invaded knowing mum can see all the dull documentaries I like to watch.

But then part of me feels like I'm just being petty.

What do all you other step families do with subscription services like netflix?

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OnceUponAThread · 16/11/2021 17:26

[quote candlelightsatdawn]@Usermane123 because she's being who she is.

She's allowed to be but giving her oxygen just seems to be fuelling her fire. As a pp said maybe just ignore her, I don't want to add to her issues [/quote]
I think this is it. As hard as it is to ignore when someone is literally stalking you, giving across the boards (!!!) - engaging is just making it worse.

There's no reasoning with the regular bullies who derail every single steps thread with same hackneyed bingo phrases. They're not interested in anything other than making sure every single step mum can't do right no matter what.

Really wish there was a mute button like Twitter so I didn't have to see it at least.

Auntycorruption · 16/11/2021 18:34

This has all turned a bit ridiculous.

I don't think there is any need to provide Netflix to step children at the other parents house. Different house, different rules. The other parent may limit screen time much more/less and that's within their rights.

Imagine the scenario "AIBU, I am trying to limit my DCs screen time to ensure homework and chores are done. They are falling behind at school because all they do at their Dads house is watch Netflix. Their step mum is now talking about logging them into her Netflix account from my house. We have Disney+, Sky etc and I already have a battle to get them off screens and do their chores. Shouldn't the step mum just back off and stop interfering with the rules at my house".

Graphista · 16/11/2021 19:12

what I can't understand more is that the kids dads are that weak willed they let them do it.

In most cases ime it's not a case of weakness (although that's sometimes true) but that they begrudge any financial support of a reasonable amount or even in too many cases, at all to their ex (they often don't see it as supporting their kids)

I'm in a rare position that my dds stepmum is actually a decent person so all the crap my ex has pulled of this type has absolutely been all him! In the early days she was even able to influence him to behave better sadly that stage has now passed and it simply causes them to argue as well. When he wasn't paying any maintenance I found out he'd told his parents and her that not only was he paying maintenance but he was paying more than he "had to". My response to this (as I had nothing to hide) was to provide ex in laws and stepmum with copies of bank statements of mine and letters and emails between me and csa with me chasing them to chase him! Which meant they knew the truth and managed at that time to shame him into paying something then csa finally got their butts in gear too and things went well for a short while on that score.

He never really paid cms/csa maintenance consistently, regularly or in full, didn't pay any at all first few years as I said and as soon as dd hit 16 and left school (we're in Scotland) he stopped paying in the June (he wasn't supposed to until the august) and cms washed their hands of the whole matter despite £10,000's in arrears!

When dd was younger and I still lived near him on the infrequent occasions she did see him for vintage clothes, toys, books, bags etc would end up left at his place and I'd have to somehow replace them.

In the early years I was working but on low income and on benefits, this was before the rule change on maintenance counting towards benefits assessments. If he paid ANYTHING dwp assumed he'd pay the rest either later or in cash and deduct maintenance at csa level assessed penny for penny from my benefits. As a result money was VERY tight and I had to go without food, clothes etc in order to ensure dd had her needs met.

Op really doesn't seem the type even if I disagree with some of her opinions/ways

But I am aware irl of some stepmums who begrudge every penny that goes to the ex - again not seeing it as supporting the dc

Re Netflix watchlist I dread to think what people would make of mine! It's a mix of really old tv shows, horror movies and obscure documentaries 

My earliest post I agreed op didn't have to pay for Netflix at Dhs ex wife's home it's not ops responsibility - but I do think it's a bit mean of dad not to.

I'm privileged?!!! Hahahahaha I wish!

Wc background, left school at 16, left abusive home at 17, I've had periods where I've been a bit better off mainly when living overseas with ex where cost of living was cheaper and wages a bit better but that was only a few years, raised dd as a single mum on benefits - whether I was working ft or not, currently disabled and on benefits (I keep saying currently as I live in hope of managing to work SOMEHOW again at some point though as I hate not working, worked full time aside from maternity and uni since aged 16, in reality it's unlikely but I'm hanging on to any vestige of hope)

Privileged?! I wish! I really do hahahahahaha

Equally if he is a low earner, how do you expect him to pay more for his first child than his second? Again that's very privileged and entitled to be honest.

I NEVER said he should pay MORE for 1st child/ren than second/subsequent children, all his children should have the same financial support from him regardless of where their main home is he is still one of their parents and should act so.

That's really more a case of op and dh acting privileged. If he's a low earner frankly as I said he should have thought twice or three times before having another dc, but I don't think that's the case here.

Rps generally don't have more children Willy nilly they not only can't afford to generally - they're actively sanctioned for doing so by our govt via the 2 child rule! Yet nrps aren't affected by this rule - even when they also have more than 2 children attracting benefits payments - which is deeply misogynistic! Certainly unjust

it's about peoples exceptions of what life style should be benefited by the first family at the cost (quite literally) of the second.

The vast majority of the time it's the reverse!

The 2nd family does a lot better at the expense of the 1st!

@Sidehustle99 agreed

Interested to know if the deleted posts re mh earlier on were directed at me, perhaps by posters aware of my posting history?

Yes I have ocd, depression, anxiety and agoraphobia.

None of which disqualifies me from commenting nor makes my comments unreasonable I don't think.

Glad they were deleted which tbh rarely happens on mn with mh disablist posts

I am surmising from all the comments op has made that money isn't particularly tight in her household, that is why I personally found the £10 on a gift per child rather...odd

It's not about consumerism per se but in current Uk living costs £10 doesn't get much at all and i do think kids feel that. I've had phases where money was v tight and I've even posted ideas for those experiencing similar, getting creative can be a necessity at times. But excepting those in current genuine poverty I think £10 is very very minimal for a child of whom you are a parent/parental figure.

Christmas for me wasn't the happiest experience growing up - even though at times we did well present wise - because spending Christmas trapped with a violent alcoholic is at the very least tense! I actually still get tense at this time of year as a result its not my favourite celebration. So I totally get it's NOT all about the gifts.

Dd and I had some little things, traditions I guess, that we developed over the years that were personal, fun and either free or very cheap. It's those dd remembers best and most fondly according to her. But I'd also at least try and get her some nice gifts especially as she got older so she didn't feel quite so "different" to other kids, which is very important to kids. Unfortunately we do live in something of a consumerist society and kids do tend to tap into that at various stages.

Toddlers aren't really aware of it they're just happy unwrapping stuff and playing with the boxes Grin my sil once gave her 2 as toddlers large boxes filled with balloons and tissue paper and they loved it! Dd once asked Santa for coleslaw and broccoli for Christmas! (Which Santa did somehow manage although he was a bit worried about the coleslaw not staying chilled)

Its more as they get older - and I tried to counteract that as much as possible! I drummed into her not to fall for advertising or branding which she mostly was ok with, teens were the trickiest stage. Now aged 20 she's impossible to buy for!

I've her 21st coming up in feb and I've not a clue what to get her as she's not a jewellery/keepsake type person, she's more about doing things but as it's all still so unpredictable with covid I'm wary of getting her eg a concert ticket or similar as that might get affected or she might get a positive test and not be able to go etc

Gift choosing is hard!

Graphista · 16/11/2021 19:13

Haha not sure how "vintage" snuck in there they were bog standard clothes!

Sidehustle99 · 16/11/2021 19:13

[quote candlelightsatdawn]@Sidehustle99 hahahahah my DSD has a horse paid for solely by me which she rides frequently, she would have never in million years have even had lessons if left to DM and DD due to cost alone.

Her mum says her DSD standards of living have dramatically increased because of me and thing is I am happy to do it, it was my gift to her, not not through guilt, expectation or entitlement. I'm assuming since your speaking from a place of such privilege you have done the same ? 🤣 no then sit down.

If she or DM and come at me with the level of entitlement shown on this thread it would have been a no go because that's not the spirit of gift giving. My DH ex has had her moments but clearly I should be thanking my lucky stars because she clearly has her head screwed on correctly.

Acknowledging that someone's financial situation maybe very different from your own is called social awareness and it is what allows me to do this for my DSD. Not everyone has this privilege (her DM for example) and I'm happy to help but never would I be used as a ATM.

Give your head a wobble, I showed my DSD this thread and she said some people are clearly unable to be grateful for the things they have. Then she told me she's grateful to me and glad I'm here.
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Yeah and then you woke up.

Graphista · 16/11/2021 19:13

Should say "contact"

candlelightsatdawn · 16/11/2021 19:59

@Sidehustle99 sure 😏 whatever makes you feel better about your situation.

PingedPotato · 16/11/2021 20:06

But excepting those in current genuine poverty I think £10 is very very minimal for a child of whom you are a parent/parental figure

Why are people so intent on trying to make me feel shit for what is the normal amount I spend. My DH buys the bigger gift. They like the little gifts. It's just a little extra. I'm not coming back to this thread any more as I'll only get insulted further.

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Getyourarseofffthequattro · 16/11/2021 20:06

@Graphista so you're not privileged but £10 isn't enough. Bit of a contradiction!

OnceUponAThread · 16/11/2021 20:14

@PingedPotato

But excepting those in current genuine poverty I think £10 is very very minimal for a child of whom you are a parent/parental figure

Why are people so intent on trying to make me feel shit for what is the normal amount I spend. My DH buys the bigger gift. They like the little gifts. It's just a little extra. I'm not coming back to this thread any more as I'll only get insulted further.

@PingedPotato - completely understand why you want to leave. People on this thread are being vile. Wishing you the best and please ignore the people being horrible it doesn't seem like it because they're shouting the loudest but they are the minority.
SpaceshiptoMars · 16/11/2021 20:16

@Graphista Stepmums give vast amounts of themselves - time, energy, worry quotient, sleep deficit etc. for children they didn't choose to bring into this world. £10 here or there is bugger all, really. Being Mumsnet, they've probably taken out the mortgage on the roof over the DSCs heads. Dad is still paying off the roof at Mum's.

PeeAche · 16/11/2021 20:43

[quote SpaceshiptoMars]@Graphista Stepmums give vast amounts of themselves - time, energy, worry quotient, sleep deficit etc. for children they didn't choose to bring into this world. £10 here or there is bugger all, really. Being Mumsnet, they've probably taken out the mortgage on the roof over the DSCs heads. Dad is still paying off the roof at Mum's.[/quote]
Preach it sista.

Step mums, you wake up every day and find love, compassion, warmth and patience for your step children. Don't let the women on this thread beat you down. They can't even drum up enough empathy to be polite to you.

We aren't the ones with the problem.

Nowomenaroundeh · 16/11/2021 23:56

Lovely to see Graphista publishing her memoirs there.

OP, I'm glad you've resolved it. Some posters here are stark raving mad. That whole bulb thing was next level.

CrimeJunkie01 · 17/11/2021 00:17

@LolaSmiles

Tattler2 The OP does not need more than a single screen account. The children are able to use the single screen account when they're at their dad's house. That household has no need to have a bigger subscription package.

Why should the OP buy a bigger package than her household needs so that another household can have an extra media subscription?

I think the answer to this is that OP does need more than one screen. You can't have kids then pretend you don't have them when they aren't in your house. It's even more of a reason why you do need mor ethan one screen.

But anyway, literally everyone I know or love has access to my Netflix account; My 3 kids, my ex (including his new partner and her kids), my Dad, if there are too many viewing at one (it's only happened once in years), I just change the password then promptly give it to them all as and when they ask.

They just all know not to use my profile. Maybe I'm just weird

Graphista · 17/11/2021 03:15

@Getyourarseofffthequattro no not a contradiction at all. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a parent who isn't in deep poverty in the Uk to spend more than £10 per child. It's certainly not the norm from

@SpaceshiptoMars good stepmums ARE worth their weight in gold absolutely! I'm immensely grateful my dds is a decent one and i of course have friends and relatives who have or are or were stepmums and I see how fantastic they are/stepmums can be

My brothers wife is stepmum to his eldest from his first marriage. His mum died after the split and so he has been raised by his dad and stepmum and she's wonderful with him.

But you must admit not all stepmums are fantastic

Lovely to see Graphista publishing her memoirs there.

Grin
Usermane123 · 17/11/2021 04:10

@CrimeJunkie01 did your ex pay and / or otherwise contribute his fair share towards your kids growing up?

Oftenithinkaboutit · 17/11/2021 06:19

[quote SpaceshiptoMars]@Graphista Stepmums give vast amounts of themselves - time, energy, worry quotient, sleep deficit etc. for children they didn't choose to bring into this world. £10 here or there is bugger all, really. Being Mumsnet, they've probably taken out the mortgage on the roof over the DSCs heads. Dad is still paying off the roof at Mum's.[/quote]
You’re missing one very important word

SOME stepmums

CrimeJunkie01 · 17/11/2021 08:07

He has never paid me maintenance as, genuinely, he couldn't afford it when we split. I'm the higher earner and I didn't really need it. He contributes half (or all) to any costs such as uniform and he has the kids as often as the kids want or I need him to. It works well for us. We Co parent in a healthy way.

Oftenithinkaboutit · 17/11/2021 08:14

@CrimeJunkie01
* They just all know not to use my profile. Maybe I'm just weird*

Not weird at all. Same here. We pick our battles and everyone happier for it

candlelightsatdawn · 17/11/2021 08:21

@CrimeJunkie01 I think being a high earner allows the flexibility to be flexible with things such as extra costs for another house, which is what you have done with your ex (which is a very kind and gracious thing to do) and it works for your situation.

We don't know OP complete financial situation but she's said it's tight and if budgets are tight you cut your cloth accordingly. If one screen is all they can afford then they have one screen, no amount of comments from pp are making saying it's only x a month and or she's being tight, will make a magic money tree grow from the ground in the OPs back garden. It will only go to compound the shame spiral which often afflicts poor or struggling families.

We aren't talking about helping put food on table at mums house, we are talking about Netflix.

Understanding needs to happen from both sides to be able to co parent effectively.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 17/11/2021 08:43

[quote Graphista]@Getyourarseofffthequattro no not a contradiction at all. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a parent who isn't in deep poverty in the Uk to spend more than £10 per child. It's certainly not the norm from

@SpaceshiptoMars good stepmums ARE worth their weight in gold absolutely! I'm immensely grateful my dds is a decent one and i of course have friends and relatives who have or are or were stepmums and I see how fantastic they are/stepmums can be

My brothers wife is stepmum to his eldest from his first marriage. His mum died after the split and so he has been raised by his dad and stepmum and she's wonderful with him.

But you must admit not all stepmums are fantastic

Lovely to see Graphista publishing her memoirs there.

Grin

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She's not their parent.....

Usermane123 · 17/11/2021 09:12

@CrimeJunkie01

He has never paid me maintenance as, genuinely, he couldn't afford it when we split. I'm the higher earner and I didn't really need it. He contributes half (or all) to any costs such as uniform and he has the kids as often as the kids want or I need him to. It works well for us. We Co parent in a healthy way.
I was on and am still on disability benefits. Working part time at the time. He’s self employed and hid money. He never paid a penny. Why should I beggar myself to provide for my kids - literally freeze when my kids weren’t there in the winter and go hungry - and have him scab off me when he’s in a huge house with new cars and holidays abroad and all the money he could ever need. What gives him the right to use my Netflix?
SpaceshiptoMars · 17/11/2021 09:16

I was on and am still on disability benefits. Working part time at the time. He’s self employed and hid money. He never paid a penny. Why should I beggar myself to provide for my kids - literally freeze when my kids weren’t there in the winter and go hungry - and have him scab off me when he’s in a huge house with new cars and holidays abroad and all the money he could ever need. What gives him the right to use my Netflix?

OK, practical question here, because I don't know the system. How can you hide money to extent that officialdom don't come after you for any money - but have visible wealth like houses, new cars and holidays abroad?

candlelightsatdawn · 17/11/2021 09:29

@SpaceshiptoMars it can happen and sadly does because there are legal loopholes that mean he can declare that he's earn 0 and therefore not liable for CMS. This is only in self employed world though because they can't attach CMS to his earnings if he states he earn 0.

A depressing google saying how to avoid paying CMS is a enlightening and depressing read .

@Usermane123 he has 0 right. It swings both ways. Mum nor dad has the right to something the other house has paid for such as Netflix. If the other house agrees to do that, Brillant, but it shouldn't be expected either way.

Oftenithinkaboutit · 17/11/2021 10:11

@SpaceshiptoMars

You can’t. Unless absolutely everything in the name of someone else

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