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Is it okay to admit that you'd leave if DSC ever had to come live with you full time?

591 replies

JustGreatThatIs · 11/08/2021 11:23

Whilst I do like my DSC, I just don't think I'd enjoy a life where they lived with us all of the tjme and so I believe that whilst I'd give it my best shot, it could inevitably lead to the end of me and DH.

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Potatoy · 12/08/2021 05:23

And if that happened, not only would your spouse be grieving with his child, he'd also then find himself alone from his partner?

Bit presumptuous to assume be would be grieving. And no one has said the moment the child(ren) move in full time they are straight out the door.

Potatoy · 12/08/2021 05:27

@twinningatlife

And yet 90% of the time a step father is expected to happily live with a mother with children. Works both ways
Of course it does. If a stepfather found themselves in the same position of not having the children living there 100% of the time and then it changed so they were then I would also understand if that's too much for them and they left.
anon12345678901 · 12/08/2021 05:28

@Potatoy

And if that happened, not only would your spouse be grieving with his child, he'd also then find himself alone from his partner?

Bit presumptuous to assume be would be grieving. And no one has said the moment the child(ren) move in full time they are straight out the door.

You don't think a parent would grieve for what their children had lost, I think most with a heart would.
Potatoy · 12/08/2021 05:53

I'll ask DH what he thinks his reaction would be but I imagine he will feel a bit sad and funny about it. But not overcome with grief. I guess he won't know until he gets there.

Marmitemarinaded · 12/08/2021 05:54

@aSofaNearYou

* has passed on a strong predilection to stay where he is until his dying day to DSS. *

How on earth would you know that if you met the father when his DS was a baby or young child?!

Mandalay246 · 12/08/2021 06:03

Shouldn't that be something you discuss/think about before marrying someone who has children? If you could just walk away over that you don't sound as though you should be in the relationship at all.

Marmitemarinaded · 12/08/2021 06:08

@Potatoy

And if that happened, not only would your spouse be grieving with his child, he'd also then find himself alone from his partner?

Bit presumptuous to assume be would be grieving. And no one has said the moment the child(ren) move in full time they are straight out the door.

I would be devastated if my ex died. Really

Devastated for my children

And also - despite being my ex, I would miss the fact that he was the only other person who loved the children as much as I did. Complete and unconditional parental love. I would miss sharing pride with him when our children succeeded or missed discussing concerns with him when the children were struggling.

Devastated.

Potatoy · 12/08/2021 06:15

@Marmitemarinaded

Fair enough.
I would miss sharing pride with him when our children succeeded or missed discussing concerns with him when the children were struggling. my DH doesn't do any of these with his ex as he gets shut down when he tried so he's given up as she isn't interested. Like I say maybe he would feel intense grief, but I'm not sure he'd be devastated to the extent you would. Different circumstances I guess.

Anyway all got a bit morbid now!

Cazzovuoi · 12/08/2021 06:20

@MyDcAreMarvel

Then you shouldn’t be in a relationship with someone with children, you don’t love your dh, op you love what he currently brings to your life. If you genuinely loved him you wouldn’t leave him if his children moved in.
Poppycock. That’s a put up and shut up mentality. Women are allowed to have boundaries that include living with DSC!

I wouldn’t either OP, although it’s theoretical in my case because I don’t have step kids.

I also wouldn’t be able to live with his parents or my mother. It would split us up.

SpongebobNoPants · 12/08/2021 06:29

I must be an anomaly then because DP and I are due to be married early next year and have actually discussed what would happen if his DCs needed to live with him full time.

I was honest and said I wouldn’t be willing to do it. We would split up but we would sell our home and buy 2 smaller properties to live separately in until his children were grown.

I know it sounds harsh but there are several reasons why I wouldn’t want to live with my SCs full time, even though DP lives with mine as I’m the RP. However, he is not expected to parent my DC. I do everything in the way of practicalities for my children, such as organising finances, childcare, washing, meal prep and so on. He is simply expected to be kind and caring towards them, a situation we’re both happy with.

Firstly, he couldn’t take on his DC full time without it severely negatively impacting on me. He works long hours in a relatively low paid job. If his DCs came to live with us 100% of the time I would either have to take on the vast majority of the childcare or he would have to cut back drastically on his working hours meaning the financial burden of raising his children would then fall onto me.
I am not willing to do these things.

Secondly, although my DCs and SCs get along well, having my SCs as full time residents would negatively impact my children’s quality of life. It has been my experience that when they are forced together for extended periods of time then they do not get on so well. Weekends, short trips away, days out etc are all fine and fun. Anything longer than a week together all at once results in them falling out and being unhappy.
I would therefore not inflict my DCs with them in their home full time. My DCs and their happiness are my priority.

Thirdly, my DP parents very differently to me and his children have very different views and standards of behaviour expected from them. I’m ok with this in our current situation as I do not want to have children with my DP and we don’t interfere / try to parent each other’s children. I let him do what he thinks is best for his kids and vice versa.
If we lived with all the children together full time then this would not work. There would be conflict due to our different parenting styles.

And lastly, I do love and care for my SCs but more in a “fun aunt” way. I’m willing to help out with short bursts of childcare, be kind, help out in emergencies and be their friend but I have no desire to be their parent. Attempting to step into a parenting role would do them a disservice as I do not love them the way a parent does (unconditionally or enough to put their needs above my own).
My children also deserve to have all my energy, time, money etc benefitting them first and foremost. It wouldn’t make them happy.

So it may seem shocking to say I love my future husband but I don’t want to take on his children full time, but I’m honest about it and it’s for good logical reasons.

Once people step away from the knee-jerk responses and emotive language surrounding blended families then there are often very good reasons for these sorts of decisions and feelings.

Yes I knew my DP had kids when I met him, as did he with me. We will both prioritise what’s best for our own DCs and living with my SCs full time is not a compromise I’m willing to make.

Plumtree391 · 12/08/2021 06:31

I wouldn't want it, frankly, but I would not have married someone with young children. I can think of a possible exception, ie if he and I had one child each of roughly the same age and they got on well like siblings (siblings that do get on, I know some don't). Then we would be co-parenting two children rather than one each.

I'm glad it isn't on the cards for you, op.

SpongebobNoPants · 12/08/2021 06:31

Sorry my first paragraph should say we wouldn’t split up

PluggingAway · 12/08/2021 06:34

Hm... I think you'd have to be honest with your partner about this if the situation arose, but I don't think they would want to hear that. If it were my children you were talking about then I'd probably not want to be with you anymore.

For the record, I sympathise. I don't think I'd want anyone else's children living with me full-time.

SpongebobNoPants · 12/08/2021 06:35

@PluggingAway you’d be surprised. My DP was totally fine when I said I would never consider living full time with his DCs.
He still wants to marry me and doesn’t think badly of me at all.

PluggingAway · 12/08/2021 06:39

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@PluggingAway you’d be surprised. My DP was totally fine when I said I would never consider living full time with his DCs.
He still wants to marry me and doesn’t think badly of me at all.[/quote]
I suppose a key point here is that you and DP have had an honest discussion about this before you committed to marriage.

It sounds like others didn't do this.

PurpleOkapi · 12/08/2021 06:44

If that's how you feel, then it's just a fact - it's not a question of whether your feelings are "ok" or not. But I don't understand why someone who felt that way would ever want to marry a man with children. Even setting aside all the questions of fairness to everyone else involved, it would be a massive weight hanging over you all the time. Any time you give others the power to make or break your marriage at whim, you're setting yourself up for a life of unhappiness. You basically have to live in fear of your SC deciding - for whatever reason - that he wants to live with his dad full-time, or your SC's mother remarrying and moving away, or having some kind of medical issue, or ... way too many other things. It sounds exhausting.

Wallywobbles · 12/08/2021 06:46

I have my DSC 50/50 and mine 100%. Honestly I'd prefer 100% all round. The kids are nice but their mum is toxic. I'd happily remove all the bad effects she has on my kids and her kids.

AlternativePerspective · 12/08/2021 06:49

Jesus, it’s not hard to see why stepmothers have such an awful reputation.

I wouldn’t want to be with someone who had kids so I wouldn’t, suggesting that you would leave if the kids came to live with you say, if their mother died, is fucking vile.

As for the poster who said her DP understands that she wouldn’t want to live with his children full-time, I can only conclude that the DP is quite happy to not be living with his children full-time either, which says a lot about him.

Interesting isn’t it that none of the SM’s here have pre-emptively had these conversations: “wel, it’s fine you have kids, just as long as they don’t want to live here, in that case I’ll be off then.”

PurpleOkapi · 12/08/2021 06:54

As for the poster who said her DP understands that she wouldn’t want to live with his children full-time, I can only conclude that the DP is quite happy to not be living with his children full-time either, which says a lot about him.

I don't think that's the only possible conclusion here. If his children wanted or needed to live with him full-time, maybe the poster would live somewhere else some or all of the time. If everyone's happy with that arrangement, I don't think it reflects badly on any of them.

Potatoy · 12/08/2021 06:56

Interesting isn’t it that none of the SM’s here have pre-emptively had these conversations: “wel, it’s fine you have kids, just as long as they don’t want to live here, in that case I’ll be off then.” how do you know we haven't.

SpongebobNoPants · 12/08/2021 06:57

As for the poster who said her DP understands that she wouldn’t want to live with his children full-time, I can only conclude that the DP is quite happy to not be living with his children full-time either, which says a lot about him

Well that’s quite an assumption. He and his ex worked out what was best for the children when they split up and believe it or not, 50/50 shared care is not always in the children’s best interests. So yes, it does say a lot about my DP that he saw the bigger picture and recognised that them living predominantly with their mum would be best for his children even though that’s not he wants. He put their needs above his wants.

Again @AlternativePerspective you’re using the knee-jerk overly emotive responses I was referring to in my post.

If my SCs needed to live with my DP full time it would be because something terrible has happened such as their mum dying or being seriously ill. In those circumstances I would expect my DP to prioritise his children’s well-being, but it doesn’t mean my children’s well-being should be sacrificed in order to facilitate that.
It’s not “fucking vile” to suggest that we’d all be happier if we lived apart in those circumstances. As I said, we wouldn’t split up but living separately would enable us both to parent our children fairly and how we choose without drama.

But you go ahead, assume anyone who wouldn’t choose to live with their partner’s children full time are vile Smile

Potatoy · 12/08/2021 06:59

suggesting that you would leave if the kids came to live with you say, if their mother died, is fucking vile.

My husband's ex left him and had fun with boyfriends when he got ill and couldn't work. Neither of us judge her for It'd, she couldn't cope with the change in circumstances, even though she had made marriage vows and had kids, If that's OK then I dont see why me leaving if the kids contact changed to 100% residency would be vile.

ineedaholidaynow · 12/08/2021 07:00

@SpongebobNoPants would you have been ok if your partner had said he didn’t want to live with your DC in the same way you have told him about his? Would you be happy to have the separate houses now and still marry him?

JustGreatThatIs · 12/08/2021 07:06

@PurpleOkapi

If that's how you feel, then it's just a fact - it's not a question of whether your feelings are "ok" or not. But I don't understand why someone who felt that way would ever want to marry a man with children. Even setting aside all the questions of fairness to everyone else involved, it would be a massive weight hanging over you all the time. Any time you give others the power to make or break your marriage at whim, you're setting yourself up for a life of unhappiness. You basically have to live in fear of your SC deciding - for whatever reason - that he wants to live with his dad full-time, or your SC's mother remarrying and moving away, or having some kind of medical issue, or ... way too many other things. It sounds exhausting.
I don't live in fear at all to be honest, it's something I'm aware could happen yes, but I don't feel it 'hanging over me'.

As I said in my OP, I would give it my best, people are reacting as though I've said I'd file the divorce papers the minute the call came through, obviously that's not the case. I'd give it a go but I just do not picture it as a situation where I could be happy long term. Who knows maybe I'd be wrong, but I doubt it.

Again, I think the comparisons between SMs and SDs are unrealistic. It's like comparing mum's and dad's or men and women. Often the expectations on both are vastly different. I've felt it myself and seen it on these boards plenty. My own DSC have a SD, he does and is expected to do, absolutely nothing other than be kind to them.

I'd be interested to see how many women wbos children have a step father still do 99% of the parenting for their DC compared to how many SMs getu lumped with it when they are at their dad's. It's not just a step parenting problem, it's fa problem for men and women normally, so much more is expected of women when it comes to children than is. Of men. There will be exceptions to the rule of course but generally I don't think anyone can deny that's how it tends to go.

So no, I wouldn't want to essentially become a mother to two other children full time and whilst I'd try, I imagine I'd ultimately end up too unhappy to want to stay.

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SpongebobNoPants · 12/08/2021 07:08

@ineedaholidaynow yes of course, we talked about how things would work before we moved in together.

He is happy to live with my DCs because as I said, them living here does not impact him financially and he is not expected to parent them. Perhaps if I’d been a struggling single mum who needed financial help he may not have been so keen, which again is fine.
But the fact is he couldn’t have his children full time without it negatively impacting me and mine, my children living with me full time does not have the same affect on his daily life.

He also knew I full time custody of 1 DC and 80% care of my other DC so that arrangement was already in place.

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