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Izbizbiz · 03/07/2021 21:25

I’m really struggling with a situation and I need advice.
Bit of background-
My partner and I have been together for over 2.5 yrs.
I’ve been navigating an incredibly acrimonious divorce and secured a residence order of my children last October after being alienated from them by my ex. The relationship with their dad is obviously very complicated and I have been focusing on their welfare rather than introducing my partner more than just a couple of times over the years.
They were obviously aware of him, have met and know of him and his daughter but our involvement as a 5 has been very limited.
My ex took exception to my new partner and my children were dead against being around him for a really long time. I had bigger fish to fry so we didn’t push it.
With help from a child psychologist, we have slowly been increasing exposure and things were going ok.
After successful day trips together, We eventually decided to go on a trip for 4 days as a 5 last week.
My kids had a good time and everything seemed to be well except for a few situations which I addressed with my partner when I came home.
Namely, the difference in treatment that my partner seems to be giving his own daughter versus my 2 children. FYI. My kids are 11 and 7 and his daughter is 11.
On 2 separate occasions, we were buying the children treats. First time it was a faux jewel. The shop had 2 sizes, one at £4 and one at £10. I told my son to choose a small jewel and he and his sister chose one. My partner’s daughter asked if she could have the bigger one and I said no. My partner was there and heard. She whispered to him and he bought her the big one. My children were really shocked but didn’t push my boundary. I could tell my youngest was disappointed and I was really angry and my partner and disappointed with his daughter because I had said no and my 2 were getting the smaller version.
Then we were in another shop and he offered to buy them a healing crystal. He told all 3 kids they could have 1 each which they accepted until his daughter whispered to her dad again and she was bought 2 and my kids were bought 1.

There were also other instances when we ate out and he let her take all of the ketchup and didn’t consider anyone else, wouldn’t share drinks or food we bought to share and was bought her own when no one else was offered their own and still expected to share and she wasn’t forced or spoken to about it.

We bought a refill cup at a park for us all to share and she insisted on having her own, 4 of us shared 1 cup and she had her own.

Anyway, I know these things aren’t really a big deal in the grand scheme but given that I too have children that I have been working so hard to listen to me and cooperate with me, I feel like it really undermines and confuses my position. It also must make them feel less important.

Even if I didn’t have these challenges, I wouldn’t want my children brought up in this way.

I feel like his decisions to give her more than my children is insensitive.

I spoke to him about it to try to understand his point of view. I initially wondered if his view was that perhaps he felt I should be treating my children more than I am.

It wasn’t received well. He said he didn’t see an issue with what he did and obviously felt defensive of me tackling the issue because he started saying things about my children’s behaviour, them not including his daughter and my parenting style. I did try to discuss that I felt they should be treated the same and to referred back to our own personal values which I thought were exactly the same.

I was really upset about his reaction but I examined what he had said and genuinely thought whether there was any truth in what he said. I honestly can’t see his point of view, I feel like he just started being spiteful because he didn’t like what I said.

This all came to a head last night over the phone and we did have words. Eventually, he said my kids don’t have manners and I let them behave badly which just isn’t true. I’ve been very honest about my challenges with them and I am very aware of the issues we face but I do not agree with those points.

He came over unannounced this morning and demanded I give him back his key then stormed off. We haven’t spoken all day and I feel like I’m in a bit of a spin.

We usually have a great relationship when it’s just us and I genuinely couldn’t have gotten through the past couple of years without him but as I said, we didn’t mix our families until fairly recently so I’m really wondering if we don’t mesh on that level.

I’ve left an abusive marriage and struggled with gaslighting so I don’t always trust my own judgment. I’m really worried I’ve gone from one bad relationship to another or wondering if I’m tarring him with the same brush as my ex.

I don’t know what to do. Should I not have addressed these issues? Am I ignoring red flags or AITAH?

I don’t even know where to start with talking to him again.

Please help x

OP posts:
Tiredoftattler · 05/07/2021 23:34

I think that I would have difficulty in a situation that my ability to do for my own children was determined by my partner's ability or willingness to do for his children. Rather than expecting me to ramp down what I was willing or capable of doing, I might suggest that he work harder to upgrade his ability to do more or just accept the fact that we were people with different pov. I do not subscribe very much to the notion that love, caring, or good parenting is defined by how much or how little you give to your kids. In my opinion, it is not the number of things or the lack of things that produce caring, responsible , well behaved, and positively contributing children. That comes from parents instilling and modeling those behaviors.

The OP seems like a well intentioned person, but much of her dictates seem predicated on what she wants as opposed to a more what we want mentality. In the scenario that she described , it seemed that all of the sacrifices and compromises were expected of her partner and his daughter.

So many different paths reach the same destination , it is pretty limiting to think that the route that you choose to take is the only route or even the best route.

Izbizbiz · 05/07/2021 23:37

Wow. That sounds awful 😞
I definitely don’t want that

OP posts:
Izbizbiz · 05/07/2021 23:38

@Starseeking

I made a mistake but I forget you're perfect.

That is not an appropriate comment to make if someone is genuinely apologetic. Looks like you had a lucky escape there OP, the only thing he's sorry about is having been asked to treat all the SC equally, given you'd both agreed beforehand.

Well done you for standing your ground, and enjoy the summer with your DC.

My thoughts exactly
OP posts:
Starseeking · 06/07/2021 00:00

I absolutely recognise the kind of man who says stuff like that @Izbizbiz.

When my EXDP wasn't accusing me of being controlling, he was sneering that not everybody was as perfect as me in relation to minor discussions.

Looking back I'm amazed I stayed 7 years, and feel so much lighter, and relaxed now I'm not tip-toeing around him. You will thrive without this man, and if you decide you'd like a new man in your life down the line, I'm sure you'll find a much more compatible partner than this one.

FinallyHere · 06/07/2021 12:12

Give with one hand and take with the other

It does sound as if he thinks he can keep you happy and do whatever seems expedient for him.

I made a mistake but I forget you're perfect.

Ouch. More if the same, I'm afraid.

The whole business about some DC having more than others is interesting. We were certainly brought up with much less than some, much more than others.

Surely almost everyone is. That doesn't mean it's necessary to flaunt riches in front of others. The key would be to enjoy things privately, jot in front of others. I could understand the child asking her father to get her the bigger things, but in private and receiving them in private.

Allowing it in public is setting up an unfortunate dynamic.

AppealingPeel · 06/07/2021 13:36

That's some passive aggressive bullshit OP. He's telling you he doesn't agree with you but he's not going to communicate about it he's going to bow to you (for now while he builds a lovely reservoir of resentment). The hills are that way op.

Isthisit22 · 11/07/2021 08:15

Well done OP. You have approached this calmly and intelligently.
People who are saying that it's fine for him to treat 1 child differently in front of the other two are being ridiculous. Doesn't matter if it's just a drink- it is not right and indicative of how he will treat your children in the future.
You are being very strong and valuing yourself- you deserve much better than a false apology.
He attempted a power play (pretending to end the relationship) to bring you in line. You called his bluff and he's trying to work his way back in.
He is not a good one. You will find a good one eventually but he is not it.

Tiredoftattler · 11/07/2021 15:27

@Isthisit22
Does having a different point if view make the partner a bad one? Or does it simply make him a bad fit for the OP.

Why is it necessary to demonize the partner because his perspective happens to be different than that of the OP?

When he says that it won't happen again may mean that he won't readily agree to actions that are not consistent with his beliefs or that he won't be having his daughter participate in these blending activities.

Every disagreement does not mean that someone is in the wrong. Sometimes it just means that they just have differing points of view and may not bev

Tiredoftattler · 11/07/2021 15:29

Correction " may not be a good fit for each other. Differences do no necessarily mean faults

olivesnutsandcheeseplease · 11/07/2021 15:51

I think you have dodged a bullet here OP.

Considering what you and your DC have been through, you need someone who is totally on your team. Undermining you on a pre arranged joint day trip is hugely worrying. He couldn't even play the 'treat the kids the same' game on a set day when all of you should have been on your best behaviour.

He sounds like a Disney dad with a princess daughter. His response to you discussing the issues after the event was completed childish and on the defensive. The contact since has again been to give with one hand and take with the other.

Hard as it is, I think you are better off concentrating on your own little family. These are red flag issues. They only get worse not better sadly. He might be a great partner but he'd make a terrible step father and it would be very detrimental to your children for this skewed power dynamic to be allowed to play out.

Isthisit22 · 11/07/2021 18:48

[quote Tiredoftattler]@Isthisit22
Does having a different point if view make the partner a bad one? Or does it simply make him a bad fit for the OP.

Why is it necessary to demonize the partner because his perspective happens to be different than that of the OP?

When he says that it won't happen again may mean that he won't readily agree to actions that are not consistent with his beliefs or that he won't be having his daughter participate in these blending activities.

Every disagreement does not mean that someone is in the wrong. Sometimes it just means that they just have differing points of view and may not bev[/quote]
Give over. It's not a difference of opinion.
It's twice buying your own child more than the other children you are with. It's awful behaviour from an adult. If a step mother did this she'd be slammed fit it.

Jojoanna · 11/07/2021 19:06

I can’t get past sharing a cup ,, I never share but I do have a thing about germs ,,

Tiredoftattler · 11/07/2021 20:08

@Isthisit22
To my way of thinking, it takes a lot of arrogance to tell someone, even a partner, how he/she how they " must allocate and spend their own resources on their own child.

If I were to have been with q man for 2.5 years, I think that I would trust his judgement.

If this man, has been good enough to maintain a relationship with for 2.5'years, I would think that his consistent behavior in this instance indicated that he was simply acting out of a pov I that I happened not to share.

There was no indicator that he thought less of her children or was awarding them any kind of second class status. He seemed to be treating her children with the frugal treatment that she employs with them and treating his daughter in the manner that he usually treats her.

I am not questioning that this relationship does not sound like a good mutual fit. I am just not seeing a demon or insensitive partner here. I just see 2 people who handle things differently.

I do think on MN's there is a tendency to respond as though men lose the right to autonomous thoughts and behaviors if the woman happens to have a different perspective. Why must anyone be in the wrong ? Why can't it just be wrong for you?

stellaisabella · 11/07/2021 20:26

@ElephantMoth

I would be annoyed if you tried to dictate what I bought my children, yes his dd is probably spoilt, but it's not your concern. I can see why he is not happy about it.
This. She's his daughter, it's not your place to dictate what he buys her. I wouldn't expect children to share a cup of drink with someone they barely know either! Maybe she's more nervous around Covid as well. I wouldn't share a cup with anyone bar my own dc. I just don't think it's at all necessary.
Marcipex · 11/07/2021 20:45

I don’t like the sound of him at all and I don’t think it’s ever going to work out.
Tho I wouldn’t want to share a drink with four others! Bleurgh

Isthisit22 · 11/07/2021 21:09

Really not sure how people here can't grasp that the OP couldn't care less what her DP buys his daughter in general. She is, rightly, objecting to treating the children differently- right in front of them. Regardless of how. This will lead to resentment. People are fixating on the cup sharing but it's not about the minutiae- it's about little things indicating how her DP is going to treat her children.
They already discussed such scenarios and agreed to be equal. The DP went back on that.
Also, read the updates. He finished with the OP over this to try to control her. When that didn't work he's back with an insulting 'apology'. Proving the OPs instincts were spot on

Isthisit22 · 11/07/2021 21:15

[quote Tiredoftattler]@Isthisit22
To my way of thinking, it takes a lot of arrogance to tell someone, even a partner, how he/she how they " must allocate and spend their own resources on their own child.

If I were to have been with q man for 2.5 years, I think that I would trust his judgement.

If this man, has been good enough to maintain a relationship with for 2.5'years, I would think that his consistent behavior in this instance indicated that he was simply acting out of a pov I that I happened not to share.

There was no indicator that he thought less of her children or was awarding them any kind of second class status. He seemed to be treating her children with the frugal treatment that she employs with them and treating his daughter in the manner that he usually treats her.

I am not questioning that this relationship does not sound like a good mutual fit. I am just not seeing a demon or insensitive partner here. I just see 2 people who handle things differently.

I do think on MN's there is a tendency to respond as though men lose the right to autonomous thoughts and behaviors if the woman happens to have a different perspective. Why must anyone be in the wrong ? Why can't it just be wrong for you?[/quote]
Poor menz, losing their autonomous thoughts 🙄

Of course he's treating her children as second class by buying his daughter better things in front of them. I wouldn't do that to any children I was with- even nieces and nephews- it's just wrong.

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