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DP’s Ex demanding I do childcare

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 11:15

DP and his ex have an EOW arrangement with SCs, and SCs come for dinner a couple of times a week too but don’t stay over.

DP’s job has always involved some night shift work and he has to do it generally in 3 month chunks twice a year, so he does nights for 6 months of the year. It has been like this for the last 20 years or so and far predates his prior relationship with his ex and obviously was the case before he met me.

When he does night shifts they are full nights from Monday - Friday, which means he sleeps until Saturday afternoon and his weekend is essentially Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon.

DP did the first 3 month night shift stint from October and it was the first time he had worked nights since we had moved in together. I naively agreed to look after his kids on the Friday nights he was working when it was his contact weekend with SCs.

The reason being is he was told he was going on nights with very short notice and I said it wasn’t really fair to spring it on his ex when she might have made plans for those Fridays in the run up to Christmas and I know how annoying it is when my own ex chops and changes contact arrangements because of changing shift patterns.

So I covered every Friday - Saturday afternoon on our weekend with SCs to be helpful and make everyone’s lives easier... except of course my own.

DP is going back on nights in March and I’ve told him I’m not willing to do it this time. His ex is incredibly hostile towards me and the facts are that no one benefits from me babysitting the kids except her.

DP doesn’t benefit from it.
My SCs don’t benefit from it as their dad isn’t here
I don’t benefit from it and actually find it a bit much.
My kids don’t benefit from it.

The only person who benefits from it is his ex so I’m unwilling to give up my free time so she can have free time.

I work full time in a very pressured job and have been homeschooling 2 primary aged children through lockdown. DP’s ex doesn’t work and the kids are in secondary school so I definitely have it harder in that sense.

DP spoke to his ex and said about the nightshifts starting again and said he would be able to have SCs from when he wakes up on the Saturday, keep them the remainder of the weekend, take them to school on the Monday and also pick them up from school and have dinner with them before dropping them home on his way to work around 6pm on the Monday evening.
That way he still has them 2 nights, they’re spending time with their dad which is what the contact is actually for and I also get every Friday to spend alone with my own children and relax after a long working week.

Before we lived together this was the arrangement when he worked nights.

His ex has hit the roof saying “Why can’t spongebob have them like before?”. DP said because she’s working all week and I’m not here to spend time with them.

I’ve since had awful messages from her (she’s blocked now) calling me selfish, saying she needs a break etc. I responded only to say that I also need a break, I am not their parent and it’s up to DP and her to sort it out between themselves. I’m not a free on demand babysitter and I’m unwilling to do favours for someone who is rude, abuse and outwardly hostile towards me. She will literally ignore me if I say hello to her.

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

Am I being unreasonable here? The suggested arrangement whilst DP works nights has stood in place for the last 10 years since they split apart from the most recent stint where I covered it.

The kids will be back at school when the nightshifts start which means ex will have a minimum of 30 hours a week of free time. I’ll be working full time, juggling childcare pick ups etc for my own 2 children.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable to say I’m not giving up my free time to give her more free time.

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timeisnotaline · 01/03/2021 09:50

Ok, slight change of tack. Are there groups where it is normal to do no after school activities? Or is it as strange as it sounds to me? Has your dh left them to be slightly neglected with their mother for an easy life?Or should he have supported them to do a couple of activities? And homework given she doesn’t care about the academic side either. Unless he does this on the weekends which I guess would make it better, but still not great for the children.

Number3BigCupOfTea · 01/03/2021 09:52

Free time during the day is not what she wants. I did read the first few pages of the thread. I got the gist. She might not win any charm awards she's not in a charm contest judged by you.

MuddleMoo · 01/03/2021 09:54

If the 12 year old is lying about you I would be refusing to be alone with her ever for your own sake. I think more stepmums need to be like you and stick up for theirselves. There's no reason for stepmum's needs to come last out of everyone.

SpongebobNoPants · 01/03/2021 09:55

@dontdisturbmenow no it was around a month earlier than the usual night shift pattern due to him changing companies (for the first time in around 20 years).
I said it was unfair on his ex as she has always been able to plan to the set pattern and as it was in the run up to Christmas I thought it’s likely she did have things planned. So I kindly offered for that stint of nights to help out on the Fridays because I thought it was unfair on her.

DP didn’t suggest, I offered. Which I’m now bitterly regretting because his ex hasn’t shown any kindness or respect in return.

This time around though his ex has had the usual 3 months notice and the regular contact pattern has resumed. I am therefore not willing to do it.

I did not set a precedence and I did not agree to a long term change. She can stamp her angry little feet all she wants, I’m not doing it.

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Newcastleteacake · 01/03/2021 09:59

Oh @Spongebobnopants you have the patience of a saint. Both with DP's EW and with so many posters on this thread. I've never wanted to scream READ THE FULL EFFING THREAD at my screen this much in my life!

For what it's worth, I think YADNBU.

SpongebobNoPants · 01/03/2021 09:59

@timeisnotaline no I don’t think it is unusual. My own children have no extracurricular activities because of the hours I work and the contact pattern with my DS and his dad.
We do other things though, like baking, bike rides etc of a weekend. Not everyone can accommodate regular activities.

My SCs over the years have done various activities though... dancing, karate, gymnastics etc but they never stuck it out in anything in the long term.

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SpongebobNoPants · 01/03/2021 10:01

@MuddleMoo I’m generally never alone with her. Not just because of the history of telling lies but because contact is for them to spend time with their dad, not me. I’m just an added extra in the mix.

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CallmeAngelina · 01/03/2021 10:07

Blimey, there are some people on here DETERMINED to paint either you or your dh as the baddies here, with the sainted ex wife untouched.
Either they've not been arsed to read the thread and your numerous repetitions of the facts, or they have read it, but have decided to try to stick the boot in anyway.

dontdisturbmenow · 01/03/2021 10:15

So I kindly offered for that stint of nights to help out on the Fridays because I thought it was unfair on her
Kindly offered to your OH though. He made the changes, it was his responsibility to work out something. You offered as a favour to him.

It has nothing to do with you and her, your OH should be sorting out the issue rather than passing it onto her by default.

Youseethethingis · 01/03/2021 10:22

It has nothing to do with you and her, your OH should be sorting out the issue rather than passing it onto her by default
He’s not got an issue though. He’s sticking to the agreed contact pattern of many years standing.
His ex has the issue. It’s her problem to sort.

ILoveYou3000 · 01/03/2021 10:25

Kindly offered to your OH though. He made the changes, it was his responsibility to work out something. You offered as a favour to him.

Nope she really didn't.

The favour did not benefit anyone but the ex. This was a long standing arrangement in terms of contact, the OP offered because of the job change and shorter notice.

Anna12345678910 · 01/03/2021 10:32

YANBU

Correct to block her. Ignore her comments and redirect to your partner. She us using her children to try to manipulate you and get own way - what a piece of work she is and selfish to boot.

Enjoy your precious free time with your children and ignore the woman.

Anna12345678910 · 01/03/2021 10:34

@CallmeAngelina

Blimey, there are some people on here DETERMINED to paint either you or your dh as the baddies here, with the sainted ex wife untouched. Either they've not been arsed to read the thread and your numerous repetitions of the facts, or they have read it, but have decided to try to stick the boot in anyway.
This.

Ignore them @SpongebobNoPants .... some of them are probably selfish and manipulate ex's too.... hence stand up for her.
You have done nothing wrong

Powwow401 · 01/03/2021 10:35

Stick to your guns and ignore her abuse. She sounds awful. I don't understand people saying he should provide childcare! Why should he. She knows the shift pattern he works and he has come to a compromise. Perhaps if she worked those days I would undertake him having to help out but when she doesn't work and it's just because she needs free time! . Does it matter what two nights it is. What kind of plans can she really have? We've been in lockdown for months 🤷‍♀️

Bibidy · 01/03/2021 10:37

Sorry but the whole point of them coming to your house is to be with their dad. It's not like he's saying he can't have them at all, just from the next afternoon instead!

Plus if they're secondary age how much trouble is it for her to have them at home with her? She is their mother, you are not. In normal times she could even go out on the Friday night and leave them at home if she chose to.

MuddleMoo · 01/03/2021 10:39

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@MuddleMoo I’m generally never alone with her. Not just because of the history of telling lies but because contact is for them to spend time with their dad, not me. I’m just an added extra in the mix.[/quote]
I try to adopt that approach myself. Oldest SC is only allowed to be left home with me if he would leave her home alone. At the moment that's not causing problems with lying etc. I'm still asked how their homeschooling is going and have to say I don't know ask their parents!

MuddleMoo · 01/03/2021 10:41

Oops sorry if I went off on one there, this is about you! Sorry you are getting grief from the Ex for this. And sorry so many people aren't reading the thread properly!

HikingInTheHills · 01/03/2021 10:45

Ignore the ex and don’t do her any favours. Not your kids, not your problem especially when the ex is a bitch about it and the kids are being rude entitled brats.

Bibidy · 01/03/2021 10:45

I would do this woman zero favours OP.

If she's going to be like this then I'd be hugely tempted to suggest your DH does change his shift pattern, resulting in the dreaded loss of CMS for her.

Either herself or your DH need to look after those kids - not you. So either he changes his shifts to do it or she has them for that ONE extra night!! And it's not even extra since it's been the norm for years anyway.

SpongebobNoPants · 01/03/2021 10:57

@Bibidy
If she's going to be like this then I'd be hugely tempted to suggest your DH does change his shift pattern, resulting in the dreaded loss of CMS for her
This would bite me in the ass though. We’ve taken on a big mortgage and DP reduces his wage then it’ll also reduce his ability to contribute to our household and I’ll have to cover the shortfall.

Either herself or your DH need to look after those kids - not you. So either he changes his shifts to do it or she has them for that ONE extra night!!

It’s not even an extra night she’s having the children because DP is making it up on the Sunday & extra on the Monday. She actually gets more free time. She just wants me to cover the Friday to give her even more free time.

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Bibidy · 01/03/2021 11:06

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@Bibidy
If she's going to be like this then I'd be hugely tempted to suggest your DH does change his shift pattern, resulting in the dreaded loss of CMS for her
This would bite me in the ass though. We’ve taken on a big mortgage and DP reduces his wage then it’ll also reduce his ability to contribute to our household and I’ll have to cover the shortfall.

Either herself or your DH need to look after those kids - not you. So either he changes his shifts to do it or she has them for that ONE extra night!!

It’s not even an extra night she’s having the children because DP is making it up on the Sunday & extra on the Monday. She actually gets more free time. She just wants me to cover the Friday to give her even more free time.[/quote]
No question then is there - never do her a favour again!

I hate the amount of people on here (not just on this thread) who think it's totally reasonable to demand their ex's partner look after their kids so they can have 'free time'. They'd never expect that from anybody else in their lives would they? Doubt that they scream at their kids' grandparents or their own friends if they don't want to babysit for them.

Your DH is having them even more time than before so I don't even know what her issue is, not like she can go anywhere at the moment on a Friday night is it.

MessAllOver · 01/03/2021 11:07

I'm even more confused now.

None of you like each other - ex doesn't like you, sounds like you hate ex and sounds like you don't really like the SC either.

Why does the ex want her children to hang around all evening with someone who she dislikes, who dislikes her and who dislikes her children?

Youllbeoldertoo · 01/03/2021 11:07

@SpongebobNoPants

Do the sc feel as if their mum is always trying to get rid of them?

Bibidy · 01/03/2021 11:12

@MessAllOver

I'm even more confused now.

None of you like each other - ex doesn't like you, sounds like you hate ex and sounds like you don't really like the SC either.

Why does the ex want her children to hang around all evening with someone who she dislikes, who dislikes her and who dislikes her children?

Well because she wants her free time?
SpongebobNoPants · 01/03/2021 11:12

@MessAllOver I don’t dislike my SCs, I do sometimes struggle with things because I’m human. We rub along fine and get on, there’s just no burning desire between us to spend time together without their dad there.

Correct that I dislike his ex and she clearly dislikes me. I’ve always managed to remain cordial and polite to her though.

The truth is she thinks that because I live with their dad that I am now an available secondary source of childcare and money. Neither of which I am willing to provide.

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