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DP’s Ex demanding I do childcare

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 11:15

DP and his ex have an EOW arrangement with SCs, and SCs come for dinner a couple of times a week too but don’t stay over.

DP’s job has always involved some night shift work and he has to do it generally in 3 month chunks twice a year, so he does nights for 6 months of the year. It has been like this for the last 20 years or so and far predates his prior relationship with his ex and obviously was the case before he met me.

When he does night shifts they are full nights from Monday - Friday, which means he sleeps until Saturday afternoon and his weekend is essentially Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon.

DP did the first 3 month night shift stint from October and it was the first time he had worked nights since we had moved in together. I naively agreed to look after his kids on the Friday nights he was working when it was his contact weekend with SCs.

The reason being is he was told he was going on nights with very short notice and I said it wasn’t really fair to spring it on his ex when she might have made plans for those Fridays in the run up to Christmas and I know how annoying it is when my own ex chops and changes contact arrangements because of changing shift patterns.

So I covered every Friday - Saturday afternoon on our weekend with SCs to be helpful and make everyone’s lives easier... except of course my own.

DP is going back on nights in March and I’ve told him I’m not willing to do it this time. His ex is incredibly hostile towards me and the facts are that no one benefits from me babysitting the kids except her.

DP doesn’t benefit from it.
My SCs don’t benefit from it as their dad isn’t here
I don’t benefit from it and actually find it a bit much.
My kids don’t benefit from it.

The only person who benefits from it is his ex so I’m unwilling to give up my free time so she can have free time.

I work full time in a very pressured job and have been homeschooling 2 primary aged children through lockdown. DP’s ex doesn’t work and the kids are in secondary school so I definitely have it harder in that sense.

DP spoke to his ex and said about the nightshifts starting again and said he would be able to have SCs from when he wakes up on the Saturday, keep them the remainder of the weekend, take them to school on the Monday and also pick them up from school and have dinner with them before dropping them home on his way to work around 6pm on the Monday evening.
That way he still has them 2 nights, they’re spending time with their dad which is what the contact is actually for and I also get every Friday to spend alone with my own children and relax after a long working week.

Before we lived together this was the arrangement when he worked nights.

His ex has hit the roof saying “Why can’t spongebob have them like before?”. DP said because she’s working all week and I’m not here to spend time with them.

I’ve since had awful messages from her (she’s blocked now) calling me selfish, saying she needs a break etc. I responded only to say that I also need a break, I am not their parent and it’s up to DP and her to sort it out between themselves. I’m not a free on demand babysitter and I’m unwilling to do favours for someone who is rude, abuse and outwardly hostile towards me. She will literally ignore me if I say hello to her.

Well she’s like a dog with a bone. Now the kids are saying “mum says you’re being out of order. It’s not fair on her”.

Am I being unreasonable here? The suggested arrangement whilst DP works nights has stood in place for the last 10 years since they split apart from the most recent stint where I covered it.

The kids will be back at school when the nightshifts start which means ex will have a minimum of 30 hours a week of free time. I’ll be working full time, juggling childcare pick ups etc for my own 2 children.

I don’t think I’m being unreasonable to say I’m not giving up my free time to give her more free time.

OP posts:
SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 19:06

Before anyone pipes up saying she can’t have had a babysitter or the kids have sleepovers because of lockdown... they have throughout. The kids have continued their active social lives and stated at friends’ houses a lot during this lockdown.
Another point of contention between DP and his ex.

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Youseethethingis · 28/02/2021 19:12

This sounds like a lovely neat lesson to mother and children that you can’t treat someone like shit and expect them to be skipping along to keep doing you favours. You ain’t that fucking special.

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 19:15

@Youseethethingis 😂😂😂

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LouJ85 · 28/02/2021 19:17

@SpongebobNoPants

Before anyone pipes up saying she can’t have had a babysitter or the kids have sleepovers because of lockdown... they have throughout. The kids have continued their active social lives and stated at friends’ houses a lot during this lockdown. Another point of contention between DP and his ex.

Oh god she sounds more and more like my DP's ex. She's had them going to all people's houses too, against lockdown rules. Then not seeing an issue at all with sending them here (bearing in mind I'm pregnant and wfh to minimise risk), after they've been in all and sundry's houses. 🙄

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 19:20

@LouJ85 yep I had a thread on here about that issue too. I’m not pregnant but I have a vulnerable relative who I help care for.

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ILoveYou3000 · 28/02/2021 19:21

He did have a problem. He needed childcare while he was working.

Nope. The arrangement was changed because the OP was doing the ex a favour as due to a job change it was shorter notice than usual. Had OP not been in the picture and willing to do something kind off her own back, the 11-year arrangement would have been what happened.

Why is it better for the two kids to lose contact time with Dad?

ColdCottage · 28/02/2021 19:37

Yanbu

MuddleMoo · 28/02/2021 19:42

I'd be tempted to offer to babysit if ex paid £10 an hour plus £30 to get everyone pizza.

Pleaseaddcaffine · 28/02/2021 19:49

Honestly op, don't waste your energy justifying this or worrying.
No is a complete sentence. You are not free childcare for anyone unless you choose to be.

MeridianB · 28/02/2021 20:05

Wow. This thread has gone lulu.

Slightly off topic, Sponge, but their mother sounds like she’s going to get a hell of shock when maintenance stops.

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2021 20:15

@Tiredoftattler you can be pedantic if you wish, 100% of something divided by two is 50 %, you can’t have 200% of something. You’ve basically said the same as me that it is the responsibility of their mother and father to work out a sensible arrangement, it is not up to the stepmother.

thosetalesofunexpected · 28/02/2021 20:16

@AnneLovesGilbert

I agree it does make you wonder what ex wife wants to get up to on a Friday nights often then?
when its Lockdown full on.

Why should op
provide free childcare so she can a fun girls night in or shagging session with a hook up or a new man in her life or just to be a lazy mare then?

This ex wife is a very manipulative ,Needy, child like woman, who i reckon has got some kind of personality disorder,
i think narcissist personality)

the ex wife, 16 yr old is old enough to look after 12 sibling.

Well done op, for standing up for yourself and showing clearly you are no longer a push over.

Op you did her a favour and the ex wife cause she is entitled cheeky fucker,
she has clearly, taken advantage of your generous nature.

ps even if ex wife has mental health/personality issues this is not a valid excuse to be nasty to op,
especially when op has helped her out.

I find it boring/predictable and really under my skin irrating when some/few posters think that having emotional baggages,is used as a sympathy card for shitty/or Arsehole type behaviour.

WildfirePonie · 28/02/2021 20:17

Well done OP. And I would stop them coming after school for the two days you mentioned earlier. You're working anyway.

Let DH pick them up like he used to.

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 20:33

@WildfirePonie when I WFH I finish around 4pm because I don’t have the commute in the morning so can start earlier. SCs arrive here around 4pm so I don’t mind. I wouldn’t stop that arrangement to spite their mum because it doesn’t really affect me and the kids like it.

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SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 20:35

Thanks everyone for your input. It’s good to know I’m not an arsehole for saying no.
I do feel like if I give an inch then ex takes a mile in a lot of situations so I have to be quite firm with my boundaries.

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MaMaD1990 · 28/02/2021 20:48

Just to say OP, you're absolutely doing the right thing. The kids will not resent you, they'll grow up and realise what a lazy arse their mother is and see it through the eyes of an adult. She sounds like a teenager herself getting her kids involved in these sorts of arguments. It's also really refreshing to hear that your DP is on board and supporting you. Ignore her calls and messages - as the wise saying goes, you can't argue with stupid!

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 20:51

@MaMaD1990 thank you

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MrsComte · 28/02/2021 20:59

[quote SpongebobNoPants]@LouJ85 yes, it has been offered several times over the last few years. It is no longer an option now really due to DP’s age and other financial commitments. But even if it was, his ex has made it clear she wants CMS at the level he’s currently paying and doesn’t want shared care.[/quote]
So how is she going to manage final when they both leave uni and she's no longer entitled to CM?

MrsComte · 28/02/2021 21:00

*financially

SpongebobNoPants · 28/02/2021 21:01

@MrsComte god knows. It doesn’t keep me up at night 😂

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Cuppachino · 28/02/2021 21:10

I don't think you are being unreasonable but actually your dp does benefit from this because he gets to sleep in. I did years of working nights and after the last night shift would just sleep until midday or something. Can he not get up earlier to have his kids?

Oh my god, I really have seen it all now. The father being berated for daring to sleep after a night shift...he should only have a couple of hours sleep to accommodate the person that DOESN'T work. What planet are we on?

m0therofdragons · 28/02/2021 21:18

@TrustTheGeneGenie it’s controlling when one parent from a split couple doesn’t commit to regular set visitation so the other has to continue to change their life to suit the other. Is hard with certain jobs but the other partner isn’t free childcare.

funinthesun19 · 28/02/2021 21:20

Their mother should be having them. This is an arrangement that went on for a long time.

And as for the comment upthread about the ex being controlled by going along with the arrangement for so long. Not enough eye rolls for that one. No she bloody wasn’t. It’s called co parenting and she had the children on a Friday night while he worked.

Now that the Sponge has offered once (the time just before Christmas), the ex expects the her to do it again instead of her. The ex probably quite enjoyed it and wants the same again. Stick to your guns Sponge and keep saying NO.

It’s unfair that people place the same standards on to a stepmum as the mum. Bizarrely, sometimes higher.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 28/02/2021 21:28

The DP got a new job in October so unless identical hours and days then maybe the mum has a point re contact.

Noshowlomo · 28/02/2021 21:42

YADNBU

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