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His son makes me not want to try again

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user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 11:51

Hi - a bit of advice please.

OH and I have been on and off for 4 years. He has a 5yo son. We have a 5 month old son. Things have never been smooth sailing when it comes to SS. I was the first relationship after the ex and she hated me right away. Never took the time to get to know me. OH handled it all wrong. SS was used as a weapon - both against me and against her. When they'd fight, he would bring SS around me and we'd all do little family things together. When they would make up, she would tell OH SS is not allowed around me and then SS would be taken away. So building a bond with SS has been impossible from day 1.

OH would also know how I felt about the situation and so whenever we'd argue or I'd do something he didn't like, he would use SS as a weapon again. So he'd go stay over at the exes house (they both swear nothing happened) in order to watch SS, but would never cross that boundary when things were good between us. Would put up social media pictures and statuses saying that his son was the only person who mattered in his life etc. I have done a lot for OH. He's had a rough few years and I've been there for him, letting him live in my house and helping him financially as he's not been working, helping him with his health and mental health problems. But SS has always been an issue. His behaviour is awful and any time I mention anything I get accused of not liking him. He's only warm to his parents; he's really dismissive of anyone else (nan, aunts, uncles, me etc). He's argumentative, a bully, entitled, a thief, rude, and though he's lovely to my baby, it's made him start reverting backwards to get his dad's attention.

Social services are involved as his mother is slack. Forgets dress up days at school. Puts him in after school club every evening despite only working part time. She hands him off to anyone who will have him. I'm the enemy to her always. When I was pregnant, I made a real effort to try to blend families. I moved OH in and allowed him to have SS at mine every other weekend. I made space for his belongings, bought toys. But my house was always treated with no respect (from either of them), I was left doing all the chores, all the cooking, all the discipline and routine while OH just played and played Disney Dad. I was always to blame for everything from SS (broccoli on his plate that OH asked me to put there? My fault. His favourite show missed? My fault). For SS's birthday, I spent a lot of money on his presents but wasn't allowed to come to his party. So I sat at home pregnant and alone with a couple weeks to my due date.

OH and SS have an inseparable bond, which is lovely but very lonely for me. When SS would come over, I'd be made to feel like a stranger in my own home. I always felt like I was intruding if I walked into the living room and they were curled up watching a film together. OH paid no bills either but was happy to feed his son from my fridge, bath him with my water etc, and I allowed it because I wanted to try and have a blended family.

When the baby came, I thought we could all be a family because the baby would join us together. It got worse. OH wouldn't really help with the baby when SS was over and SS would refuse to acknowledge I was the baby's mother and so once more I was made to feel excluded. They'd sit together all curled up and SS would moan if I tried to sit with them. Say things like 'why don't you go to your room so it's just me and daddy and the baby?' I spent ages decorating my spare room into a nursery for the baby (something I've dreamed about for ages). I sent OH a picture of some fold away beds to buy for SS so he had a proper bed instead of the blow up bed he was sleeping on (which I bought otherwise he'd have been on the sofa) and OH never bought it. But then I got called a b*tch by ex for having her son on a blow up bed next to the cot I'd bought for my own son. The room is tiny, it's also MY flat which OH doesn't contribute to, and there's no room for a permanent bed in there hence the fold out bed suggestion. But I'm always to blame.

The last straw came when I asked SS to stop screaming as the baby was asleep. OH blew up and started screaming at me saying I don't like his son. I treat him differently from the way I treat OH's nieces (which is true but that's because his nieces love me and they want to be around me). I asked him to leave because I was sick of the aggravation surrounding his son. He made me pack up all his son's things and send them to him (including the stuff I'd bought which I wanted to keep here for if SS came to visit to see his brother) but OH and his ex tag teamed me, calling me and calling me names and said I'd never be around SS again. So I packed it up.

A few months later and OH is trying to right his wrongs and has been staying a few nights a week to bond with the baby and help me out a bit. He keeps making hints about bringing SS back to stay and how much he loves my parenting style. I've said he's not to bring his son to stay anymore. This is MY house and I'm not being made to feel like an outsider in my own home anymore. I feel like I'm well within my rights to feel this way and keep my distance. OH can bring his son's together to bond but I'm done with it now.

Guess that means there's no hope for me and OH to be together in the future? I don't think I will ever stop feeling this way but some of my friends have relationships where they don't have anything to do with their partners children for similar reasons...

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Clutterbugsmum · 02/02/2018 17:12

The only thing that will come out of this situation is 2 damaged children as none of the adults in their lives will put their own children above their egos.

Your Ex's child is behaving like this because his parents aren't parenting him because they want him to love them best. This child's has problems now at 5, in 10 yrs if no one parents him in will 1000 times worse.

Your son will learn that his half brother is getting all the special treatment from his dad, so there fore he must not be loved as much as his half brother. He will learn to treat you like his dad who has little or no respect for you.

BiologyMatters · 02/02/2018 17:16

Im not an ex by the way, im a stepmum with dc of my own too.

Winteriscoming18 · 02/02/2018 17:43

You literally demonised a 5 year old child. I’m a mother of a 4 and half year old and I can assure you they are not angels. They will test boundaries and they change like the wind. This child is stuck between the throws of two warring parents and a stepmother who doesn’t like him. The ones at fault is the adults in this fucked up situation. Btw op given the ex’s behaviour I put my house on the fact he will have been screwing around with her and yourself. Why on earth would you want this Prince Charming back and in terms to exclude his first child?

jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 02/02/2018 17:57

It's good to see that you accept that it is your ex and not the 5 year old to blame here.

I think that the best case scenario for everyone is for you not to get back with your ex and hope that he's an involved co-parent.

user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 22:39

@Jaime - thank you for being the ONLY one so far to see that I am not blaming SS for the break down of my relationship. If I was, I'd take OH back and keep SS from coming over. But I haven't done that.

I understand he is a product of his environment and hasn't had correct parenting. Especially seeing as becoming a mum myself, I have felt what love is and there is nothing I wouldn't do for my son. What I am saying is that the behavioural problems of SS make me not want to fight for this anymore because I don't think this is the best thing for any of us. I don't enjoy being around him, and he couldn't give a crap about being around me. I'm not feeling sorry for myself, it is what it is. OH and I have very different parenting styles. I believe in routine and discipline and rewarding good behaviour. OH is all about play time and will spoil SS even when he's been bad at school or bad at home.

But this is my house that I allowed OH into as he had nowhere else to go at the time and therefore I find it unfair that I'm made to feel like a stranger who has just walked into a random family's house any time SS is here. I'm obviously not cut out to be a SS in situations where I'm always the bad guy no matter how many times I pick him up from school, or watch him, or buy him things he wants, or put a roof over his head, or take him to the farm or days out, or sew up his clothes, or keep him clean and fed.

And to answer why I'd ever consider taking OH back? Because he's not all bad but has handled this situation disgustingly. I would give him the opportunity to fix it and for us to basically start again. Date, days out with all kids, him setting boundaries with his ex, me trying to build bridges with his ex, embarking on parenting courses (social services are setting this up for OH anyway). Right now, though, I feel defeated.

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user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 23:01

Also to those who think I didn't want SS from the beginning; how did you come to that conclusion from a few paragraphs summarising 4 years?! Did you not read where we'd do little activities together? I tried very hard to build a bond with SS from the start. But when every other week you're allowed to see him, then you're not, then you are, then you're not, and then you're getting abusive messages and calls and being intimidated by her family members and having your belongings destroyed because you dared want to spend time with her child? Is it any wonder my OH having a child became a downside rather than an upside?

I suppose I am living in a deluded bubble by saying things are fine when SS isn't here. The issues are still there, they are just not in my face, I guess. I don't have to see how badly OH parents SS. I don't have to feel lonely or unappreciated or attacked by everyone involved.

This relationship is definitely done. I just feel sad for my son who won't get to see his son everyday, but I don't think this is my fault because I have tried over the 4 years. I'm just not willing to try anymore.

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jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 03/02/2018 00:36

I think that based on your OP , your relationship with SS was doomed to fail. Both parents sent a strong message to SS that you were unimportant with their juvenile behaviour during their ups and downs.

SS's behaviour is not surprising considering what his parents are like. I imagine that he feels insecure, especially when he sees his Dad treating the woman he allegedly loved, like a doormat.

swingofthings · 03/02/2018 08:35

But this is my house that I allowed OH into as he had nowhere else to go at the time
He might be a loser, but frankly, you don't sound very nice either. You've been with this guy for years, planned a baby with him, yet all you could offer his was to 'allow him into your house because he had nowhere else to go'? Why would you even think of having a baby with a man who you consider no different to a homeless person who needs shelter?

It's no surprise at all that he remained on the fence. Even if he couldn't pay, you shouldn't have made him feel that you were just given him charity. You should have either leave him to sort our his life, or accept that you were committing to a man who needed help and made your home your family home and then maybe, just maybe he would have shown more commitment back to you.

I think he did a lot wrong, but I think you have your part to play. You don't make a child and expect to have a family life when you are not prepared to make a family home with them.

swingofthings · 03/02/2018 08:42

By the way, I was in a similar situation than your ex when we agreed that I would move in to his place with my kids. No way would that had happened before I could have contributed, but it was clear that my contribution were on a commitment basis with the expectation of us being a family unit. He made the mistake once of referring to my contribution as rent and I went berserk. The house might have been under his name but it was my home too and I was contributing towards the mortgage. We did get engaged and now have been married for a few years. The house is still under his name, but it is now irrelevant.

It was hard for him to accept the situation when for years, the house had been his, a house he bought and looked after with pride, his little jewel but it would never have worked if he hadn't been prepared to relinquish this attitude.

I think in such circumstances, it rarely works when one moves into the home of the other, especially when kids are involved and it is better to move elsewhere, even if only renting to start with before committing to being a family.

Winteriscoming18 · 03/02/2018 08:47

If it wasn’t about the child you wouldn’t have put it in your thread title. If the child wasn’t about you would have no issues but he isn’t going away. You need to do the right thing and keep this relationship at its current status finished. You cannot have a relationship with this man and exclude his 5 year old child.

ElChan03 · 03/02/2018 09:24

I'm sorry he sounds like a twat and he is completely using you.
Also you cannot have a relationship whilst having nothing to do with their children whilst you live together.
This relationship will never work as the perfect family unit you want does not exist. Move on.

SandyY2K · 03/02/2018 19:43

I think it's best to coparent and not resume a relationship with him.

With all the messing around and his poor financial contribution..which you had a chance to see before you got pregnant...you also saw how they excluded you in your own home and made you feel like a stranger inyour own home. They took advantage and disrespected your home...yet you still stayed in the relationship.

For that you need to take responsibility...it's not like he was a great contributor or he helped around the house and suddenly changed.

As they say we are where we are...so make the best of it...coparent and you don't need to have dealings with his Ex or OHs Ex.

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