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His son makes me not want to try again

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user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 11:51

Hi - a bit of advice please.

OH and I have been on and off for 4 years. He has a 5yo son. We have a 5 month old son. Things have never been smooth sailing when it comes to SS. I was the first relationship after the ex and she hated me right away. Never took the time to get to know me. OH handled it all wrong. SS was used as a weapon - both against me and against her. When they'd fight, he would bring SS around me and we'd all do little family things together. When they would make up, she would tell OH SS is not allowed around me and then SS would be taken away. So building a bond with SS has been impossible from day 1.

OH would also know how I felt about the situation and so whenever we'd argue or I'd do something he didn't like, he would use SS as a weapon again. So he'd go stay over at the exes house (they both swear nothing happened) in order to watch SS, but would never cross that boundary when things were good between us. Would put up social media pictures and statuses saying that his son was the only person who mattered in his life etc. I have done a lot for OH. He's had a rough few years and I've been there for him, letting him live in my house and helping him financially as he's not been working, helping him with his health and mental health problems. But SS has always been an issue. His behaviour is awful and any time I mention anything I get accused of not liking him. He's only warm to his parents; he's really dismissive of anyone else (nan, aunts, uncles, me etc). He's argumentative, a bully, entitled, a thief, rude, and though he's lovely to my baby, it's made him start reverting backwards to get his dad's attention.

Social services are involved as his mother is slack. Forgets dress up days at school. Puts him in after school club every evening despite only working part time. She hands him off to anyone who will have him. I'm the enemy to her always. When I was pregnant, I made a real effort to try to blend families. I moved OH in and allowed him to have SS at mine every other weekend. I made space for his belongings, bought toys. But my house was always treated with no respect (from either of them), I was left doing all the chores, all the cooking, all the discipline and routine while OH just played and played Disney Dad. I was always to blame for everything from SS (broccoli on his plate that OH asked me to put there? My fault. His favourite show missed? My fault). For SS's birthday, I spent a lot of money on his presents but wasn't allowed to come to his party. So I sat at home pregnant and alone with a couple weeks to my due date.

OH and SS have an inseparable bond, which is lovely but very lonely for me. When SS would come over, I'd be made to feel like a stranger in my own home. I always felt like I was intruding if I walked into the living room and they were curled up watching a film together. OH paid no bills either but was happy to feed his son from my fridge, bath him with my water etc, and I allowed it because I wanted to try and have a blended family.

When the baby came, I thought we could all be a family because the baby would join us together. It got worse. OH wouldn't really help with the baby when SS was over and SS would refuse to acknowledge I was the baby's mother and so once more I was made to feel excluded. They'd sit together all curled up and SS would moan if I tried to sit with them. Say things like 'why don't you go to your room so it's just me and daddy and the baby?' I spent ages decorating my spare room into a nursery for the baby (something I've dreamed about for ages). I sent OH a picture of some fold away beds to buy for SS so he had a proper bed instead of the blow up bed he was sleeping on (which I bought otherwise he'd have been on the sofa) and OH never bought it. But then I got called a b*tch by ex for having her son on a blow up bed next to the cot I'd bought for my own son. The room is tiny, it's also MY flat which OH doesn't contribute to, and there's no room for a permanent bed in there hence the fold out bed suggestion. But I'm always to blame.

The last straw came when I asked SS to stop screaming as the baby was asleep. OH blew up and started screaming at me saying I don't like his son. I treat him differently from the way I treat OH's nieces (which is true but that's because his nieces love me and they want to be around me). I asked him to leave because I was sick of the aggravation surrounding his son. He made me pack up all his son's things and send them to him (including the stuff I'd bought which I wanted to keep here for if SS came to visit to see his brother) but OH and his ex tag teamed me, calling me and calling me names and said I'd never be around SS again. So I packed it up.

A few months later and OH is trying to right his wrongs and has been staying a few nights a week to bond with the baby and help me out a bit. He keeps making hints about bringing SS back to stay and how much he loves my parenting style. I've said he's not to bring his son to stay anymore. This is MY house and I'm not being made to feel like an outsider in my own home anymore. I feel like I'm well within my rights to feel this way and keep my distance. OH can bring his son's together to bond but I'm done with it now.

Guess that means there's no hope for me and OH to be together in the future? I don't think I will ever stop feeling this way but some of my friends have relationships where they don't have anything to do with their partners children for similar reasons...

OP posts:
user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 14:31

@lola you just have to read a lot of the first posts by users begging replies to be gentle or kind to understand my comment. There’s always a few of you who ruin this site for people. The comment regarding Jeremy Kyle and others trying to undermine my self esteem in a way not helpful in boosting it, are unnecessary. If you can’t be compassionate or kind, kindly f*ck off. Thanks.

The rest of you are absolutely correct. OH and his ex have caused this not SS but for two people Who should love their child more than anything in the world, they have put him in a position where the mother of his half brother wants nothing to do with him to avoid drama. OH’s ex has keyed up my car, called police with false allegations to ruin our first holiday, threatened violence against me, won’t refer to me by name, has had members of her family try to intimidate me. Yet through this I STILL tried to work with OH and be there for SS. The problem with SS is that he feels guilty for SS having such a crap mum so when he has him it’s always play and fun time. He says he sees him 6 days of the month and doesn’t want to spend that time disciplining him and making his son cry when telling him off. So he’s convinced himself that his sons behaviour isn’t actually that bad but if I or anyone in his family say differently we get accused of not liking him.

I think I’m going to keep them both at arms length. Allow OH to continue to see our baby but focus on co parenting. Maybe in the future when OH has finished therapy but not for now. I need to focus on my son.

OP posts:
user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 14:36

@swing - I didn’t say I had an issue with them cuddling. I said I often felt like a stranger in my own home and felt awkward. I was made to feel like I couldn’t join in or even sit on the sofa because SS wouldn’t like it. In a house that’s mine, not acceptable. I shouldn’t ever have to feel like that.

OH when he’d get money or the short time he’d have a job would help with a food shop but not consistent.

OP posts:
stitchglitched · 02/02/2018 14:40

I shouldn't ever have to feel like that

Why? You are an adult who has made a decision to have a child within a high conflict situation with a troubled young child in the middle of it. Did you think it was all going to be plain sailing?

lolaflores · 02/02/2018 15:03

user1490008614
I should fuck off?
You need to understand something.
The thread was started by you about you and for you in a public forum.
If you didn't want comments that didn't stroke your marvellously balanced ego, then you really should have said at the begining.
If you think your dramatic saga has been ruined by people with the temerity to find fault with your cluster fuck of a life...then tough shit love.
And, in summing up I would like to give you a tip...
It is very easy to mistake above average levels of self esteem as actually thin veneer of arrogance masking a personality as fragile as a baby bird and an IQ to match
HTH

user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 15:06

@stitch yes I chose to have my baby and he’s the best thing to ever happen to me. 4 years in I shouldn’t still be treated like the outsider. SS see’s her partner as his second dad but I’m treated like an annoyance. When you’ve tried so hard for so long and are still treated like the wicked witch by all involved, it’s not nice and why I asked OH to leave.

OP posts:
user1490008614 · 02/02/2018 15:06

Toodlepip Lola. Don’t comment back here again.

OP posts:
stitchglitched · 02/02/2018 15:12

Yes and you chose to have that baby with someone who has a child already. A child who is apparently under SS due to neglect and is put in the middle of his parent's dramas and probably doesn't know whether he is coming or going half the time. The idea that you should 'never' have to feel a bit uncomfortable or left out, even if it is because he is trying to spend time with his 5 year old, makes you sound like a big baby. You think this poor 5 year old never feels uncomfortable or left out?

stitchglitched · 02/02/2018 15:14

And FWIW I do think asking your OH to leave was the right decision. But you have turned a child into the scapegoat for the fact that your boyfriend is a shit partner and inadequate parent.

lolaflores · 02/02/2018 15:14

user1490008614
OOOhh. Look. I just did.
Arguing with me and taking offence at the opinions of people you have actively invited to pass on your life will not change the ongoing mess that you are inhabiting and have created.

GeekyWombat · 02/02/2018 15:18

Surely the issue isn’t your stepson, but actually your partner?

WellThisIsShit · 02/02/2018 15:39

The grown man behaves badly where his tiny son is concerned.

The grown man fosters bad parenting dynamics and high conflict family dynamics when there is any family around to do that with.

The grown man role models and encourages triangulation and scapegoating behavior, with you as the ‘One Who Does No Good’, when he has an audience to do this with.

The child is five years old. The child is entirely a product of his parenting. Hes very, very young still. Reading your posts, and if I hadn’t known the age of the child, I’d have thought you were talking about a child of 10-11yrs upwards.

You are projecting a level of maturity and developmental ability way beyond his years.

Perhaps it’s because he seems so big and hulking next to your tiny baby. That happens.

But he’s still a very young child. He is absolutely not capable of being responsible for the behaviour and motivations you are pushing into him.

He is being taught and encouraged to behave the way he does. By the adults he loves and trusts. He is five years old. The examples you give aren’t examples of a terrible child who is being deliberately exclusive and cruel to you. They are however extremely good examples of a father failing to be a good parent or a good partner.

You seem to expect the child to parent himself and be immune to the manipulation and encouragement of his dysfunctional parents.

How can a five year old rise above the bad influence of both parents?

The child isn’t thwarting your plans of the perfect blended family. Your ‘partner’ however is.

Even if you don’t want to see it at the moment, please don’t blame a child so young.

swingofthings · 02/02/2018 15:39

4 years in I shouldn’t still be treated like the outsider
By whom though? From what you've written, your SS acts like a normal 5yo. Kids at that age go through phases when they are either in love with their mum and reject their dad or vice versa and they will say exactly the same to their own parent. You are taking the actions and reactions of a 5yo much too personally and like a rejected kid rather than a grown up adult.

It sounds like there was a battle of ownership with your OH over the home, him encouraging his son to make his affection to his boy 'home' and you making a point that they were in YOUR home and therefore should treat each other as such. The more one acted in one direction the more the other pulled the other way.

The only way it could work would be to move somewhere else that is neither your home nor is, but a home you would make for your new family, but considering how you feel, it would be a very dangerous step to take.

lunar1 · 02/02/2018 15:42

You are putting adult responsibility onto a 5 year old child who has a dysfunctional life.

The only way you can move forward is to accept and address the fact that the cause of the problems for you is the dad not the child.

When your child turns 5 you will realise what a numpty you have been with your expectations of your ex's child.

MyKingdomForBrie · 02/02/2018 15:48

Wow, this man is utterly vile, how can you not see that?

He uses his child as a weapon, what else do you need to know? He’s disgusting. He’s a bad father and no amount of foot massages will get past that.

Do not get back with him.

mehhh · 02/02/2018 15:49

Get rid of him you'll do better on your own, it sounds like you're already pretty much alone and capable of supporting yourself and your son... find someone else who is actually worth your energy! X

Quartz2208 · 02/02/2018 15:57

I think the OP is failing to take responsibility for her own part - its clear they got together when the SS was small and his parents were on and off (and he kept on running back to her) and now she is blaming the child rather than the adults. She clearly did not want him from the start based on her view on how better it is without him

Someone1 · 02/02/2018 16:02

I know this page is all about SP being in a wrong and SC being innocent all the time.. I have SS and I don’t give s* about him, he is 5 and as rude as nothing. Tried building some sort of relationship with him but through out 1,5years of trying nothing happened, he just got braver to tell me to get out of my own house and all other rude things so I simply don’t care anymore. I welcome him to my house and leave my partner to deal with him. I dread the weekends he is here. I couldn’t care less and since he is visiting MY house he is following my rules. My partner has to deal with it too. If he is not happy door is wide open for them both to leave. P.S my partner does have a choice to leave(he has a job and makes enough money)but chooses not to. but I guess he is just bad dad for not jumping around his kid and acknowledging my needs! You do what’s the best for you and don’t worry about what anyone else say! Some of the people here are The Exes who are not happy to see they partners move on.

Thebluedog · 02/02/2018 16:03

Your SS is learning his behaviours from his parents.

Your DP is the issue here, your SS is just caught up in the cross fire and acting accordingly and copying his parents.

Weezol · 02/02/2018 16:04

From here on in, concentrate on what's best for you and your child. He is your DC's dad, but that's all.

His family dynamic seems impossible to manage, and you and shouldn't have to suffer for it - nor should you let the chaos impact on your own child.

Quartz2208 · 02/02/2018 16:06

I think its about the fact that when you look at adults and children its clear who has to take more responsibility for not only their actions but how that impacts on the child.

Child learn there cues and behaviours from those around them - hence the adults are responsible. It is often all of them!

fulltimeworkingmotherof4 · 02/02/2018 16:07

Had a similar experience with an ex bf. together 4 years didn’t have kids together but his dd was his world and he was always crossing the line with his ex. Still wanting to do the family things with her. His ex is now his wife. Say no more!

cherryontopp · 02/02/2018 16:36

QUARTZ - She clearly did not want him from the start based on her view on how better it is without him

100% agree with this^

THE OP -"so building a bond with SS has been impossible from day 1"

"OH and SS have an inseparable bond, which is lovely but very lonely for me

"When the baby came, I thought we could all OH wouldn't really help with the baby when SS was over"

You didn't like having a SS from the very start and just tolerated him to be with your DP.
You were jealous of your DPs bond with his son so you thought by having your own baby that your DP attention would be all for your son and that SS would take a back seat.

You couldn't have been more wrong. Instead your lazy useless scrounging DP does even less when SS here.

Thats your DPs fault, not your stepsons.
You list the character defects of a 5 year old but when posters have pointed out your DPs lack of motivation, financial contribution and parenting, you make excuses for him.

You knew your Dp has MH problems and a waster before you made a baby with him.
It will never get better and its down your DP. He'll never parent your SS properly as he has the part time Disney Dad mentality.
It will never change

BiologyMatters · 02/02/2018 16:40

I think the op is desperate to put the blame for her role in this shit storm on anyone but herself. Because if she really thought about it she would have to face up to what an absolute cock she's picked as the father of her child. And that by choosing to have a child with him she has further destabilised the life of a very mixed up and in her own words neglected little boy. Do you think people should feel sorry for you?

MinorRSole · 02/02/2018 16:48

Some of the people here are The Exes who are not happy to see they partners move on.

Or the ones picking up the pieces

QuiteLikely5 · 02/02/2018 16:53

God op

Run for the hills. They all sound dysfunctional.

You will never get the fairytale will this aggro.

Co parenting sounds good

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