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AIBU? DH's ex wants us to looks after her child too

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Poppy84b · 09/03/2015 08:17

Hi, Am new to Mumnet and this is my first post.

DSD lives some 200 miles away from us so DH makes an 800 mile round trip once a month for a long weekend so she can spend time with us and his extended family.

Recently his ex has asked if we will have her little boy (with her new husband) too. He doesn't understand at the age of 6 why his sister gets to go away for weekends and has lots of cousins and he doesn't. She says it will only be the one time and he gets really upset when his sister leaves to be with us.
AIBU in thinking that this is a really weird set up?

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Thumbwitch · 10/03/2015 22:57

Well at least the little boy knows your DH reasonably well then if he's met him several times, so he'll be able to deal with any homesickness, I would think.

There's obviously more to this re. your DH putting his DD's feelings ahead of yours time after time; so I won't say anything more about the situation because as a one-off, it's not that bad - but if it's just another straw in the pile of you being ignored in favour of his DD/ exW then that's a different matter.

Wdigin2this · 10/03/2015 23:12

This is my last offering too! My DH will do anything, and I mean anything to keep his (all grown) DC's happy, often agsinst my judgement/wishes! It has resulted (IMO) in him being fleeced both emotionally and financilally since I've known him, I wish I had sorted it out and stopped the rot many years ago. I think you are already on that journey, and believe me, it's like a runaway train!! But I'm sure we'd all be interested to hear how things pan out!

BathtimeFunkster · 10/03/2015 23:14

As a one-off it's shite.

If my husband imposed a small child I didn't know on me for a holiday weekend against my wishes for no good reason at all I would be furious.

They are blatantly being used as free childcare by his ex.

What a complete pisstake.

Crazyeyes86 · 10/03/2015 23:27

My partners ex occasionally has our daughter for sleepovers as she loves the chance to see her ds with his sister (they are very close) and we all get along very amicably. This is at stepsons request as opposed to babysitting but Works very well for us and I feel is a positive thing. In fact my daughter often asks to see her and she is one of her favourite adults. I do think this is very positive for both chn but I am aware it is unusual

colourfulmummy · 10/03/2015 23:57

Unless your Bob Geldof or live in a commune I can see why you've got a problem with it.

Although maybe she would have your kids for the weekend so you could have a kid free weekend too...but i'm guessing you would never ask and there's your answer.

DPotter · 11/03/2015 01:25

I think asking anyone to care overnight for a child who still isn't dry the night through is an incredibly big ask and neither party should be entering in to such an arrangement without an open discussion about how it is managed.

PS - Don't restrict fluids for child who isn't dry the night thru. leads to concentrated urine which aggrevates the bladder resulting in more frequent need to pee.

catsmother · 11/03/2015 03:57

I hope the 50:50 driving thing happens .... call me cynical but it's funny how this has suddenly been 'agreed' when up until now he's done it all. But it's easy to promise stuff when you want something - and just as easy to go back on your word later.

Storm15 · 11/03/2015 05:11

I have a 6 yr old DS and I HATE sleepovers. The only ones I ever grudgingly agree to are for kids I know very well and whose parents are really, really good friends. Kids who know me well enough not to be traumatised when I tell them to shut up and go to sleep and whose parents won't mind me saying it. Likewise I don't let my DS go and stay overnight at houses where we don't know the parents. He's only six.

I've never had a sleepover for my DSD because I just don't know any of her friends or their parents well enough.

At the very least I'd step away from the whole 'dry at night' situation and let your DP deal with it. Send him to Dunelm. And if the little boy wakes up at night, roll over and keep those eyes shut tight; your DP made his bed. Nothing will put him off doing this again like a few nights up with a homesick, bedwetting 6 year old. Poor kid.

Booboostoo · 11/03/2015 06:27

I find this thread really sad. At the heart of it is a little boy who wants to connect with his sister's family.

Even before I had my children I was happy to help out friends and family by looking after their kids, I can't imagine not doing it for someone who is part of my extended family.

I do think it is a bit selfish of adults to make family decisions on behalf of children. Of course divorcing is fine, of course re-marrying and having more children and taking on step-children is fine but you can't pretend that some people in the extended family don't matter because you don't want them to.

clam · 11/03/2015 06:40

at the heart of it is a little boy who wants to connect with his sister's family.

No, at the heart of it is an ex who wants to palm her small son off with people he barely knows in order for her to have free childcare.

TheMumsRush · 11/03/2015 06:55

What Calm said Smile

TheMumsRush · 11/03/2015 06:56

CLAM even

alwaystryingtobeafriend · 11/03/2015 07:03

I dint think a 6 year old knows about connecting with his sisters family.

His mum should be explaining the situation as to why she goes away. Not trying to ignore this conversation and palming him off because it's easier for her.

No way in hell would I watch his exW children if they are not his. invite them to parties maybe but that's it.

I think if the OP has an issue then dp should respect it and say no to his ex.

PeruvianFoodLover · 11/03/2015 07:26

I find this thread really sad. At the heart of it is a little boy who wants to connect with his sister's family.

Why should what the little boy wants be prioritised over what is best for his half-sister?
she has the right to an independent relationship with her dad, and even if she would like her little brother to come along, that has to be balanced against the risk of it becoming a regular occurrence and her losing the relationship she currently has with her Dad and the OP.

Additionally, as the person with whom the boy is most familiar, this arrangement places caring/emotional support responsibilities on the OPs DSD. If her little brother wakes in the night and can't settle, then she is likely to become involved in comforting him; as she's 13, that is not appropriate.

I do wonder where a stepmums selflessness is expected to end - is there really an expectation that the OP will welcome this boy into her home, because he "wants to connect with her" ??

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 11/03/2015 07:31

Colourfulmum, the OP has no kids so no chance of reciprocation.

fakenamefornow · 11/03/2015 07:52

she has the right to an independent relationship with her dad, and even if she would like her little brother to come along, that has to be balanced against the risk of it becoming a regular occurrence and her losing the relationship she currently has with her Dad and the OP

I would have thought a good relationship between her dad's family and her little brother would strengthen the relationship between the SD and her dad rather than weaken it?

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 11/03/2015 08:02

They live 200 miles away and only see the DSD 10-12 times a year.

If this really was about bonding, surely proposing a meet up on the middle or at the nearby SIL's house would be more sensible than a four day sleepover for a six year old?

PeruvianFoodLover · 11/03/2015 08:24

I would have thought a good relationship between her dad's family and her little brother would strengthen the relationship between the SD and her dad rather than weaken it?

Six year olds require a great deal of supervision, and practical care. If the adults are doing that, they have less time for older DCs. How can the DSDs relationship with her dad benefit if he chooses to spend some of the very limited time she has with him caring for her little brother?

Or are you suggesting that the OP should provide the primary care for the younger sib so the DSD and her Dads time isn't affected?

needaholidaynow · 11/03/2015 08:25

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redskirt · 11/03/2015 09:07

I would have said no, primarily because I can tell that you have a strong gut feeling that this is not a good thing for your family unit. And secondly because I think it blurs too many boundaries.

Now that it's been agreed to, behave sweetly but leave your husband to do all the caring. And be firm that it doesn't happen again (unless you really enjoy the experience and want to do it again! )

sanityseeker75 · 11/03/2015 11:12

but you can't pretend that some people in the extended family don't matter because you don't want them to. which is exactly how the OP and his ex are treating the op.

sanityseeker75 · 11/03/2015 11:13

sorry meant the OPs DH and his ex

Flipchart · 11/03/2015 11:22

My friend takes out her DSD little sister. At first I thought it was unusual but the more I thought about it I can see it is a nice thing to do. Friend now has a pretty good relationship with her DHs ex and it makes family life easier and the Exw also helps friend out when needed.

I see a lot of people here saying no and it's weird but one thing I have learned is that human relations can be quite complicated but in a good way. For example our other friend has her ex husband and ex boyfriend round for Sunday dinner at the same time once a month. DHs Aunty nursed her ex DH while he was ill and dying.
There isn't one size fits all rule

Watching other people being generous with their emotions has changed the way I think tbh and act tbh.

catsmother · 11/03/2015 13:01

I totally agree Flipchart that human emotions can be quite complicated and that you can't apply a one size fits all rule to these situations. It's great, obviously, and no-one could dispute that, that the people you describe have all found a way of getting on with others in circumstances many people might consider a bit unusual. Presumably, that's been possible because the personalities involved connect with each other in a positive way and everyone concerned 'gets' something out of the relationship. An individual should, IMO, be free to pursue whatever relationship/friendship they wish .......

....... but, and it's a big but. When an individual's desire to have a relationship with whoever has repercussions for someone else, then it's very selfish to steam ahead with that without first having discussed the situation with the person who'll also be affected by your decision - or, to have 'discussed' it, but still do exactly what you want regardless even though someone else you'll be affecting has reservations and concerns.

And that is where the OP finds herself. This isn't really so much a debate about the merits - or not - of 'unusual' relationships and situations, what it is now is all about one half of a couple totally ignoring their partner's feelings and making unilateral decisions even though their other half will also be affected. He's being really arrogant - why do his wishes trump hers ? Why is she apparently allowed no say regarding guests in her own home ? Why is she allowed no say about additional expenditure which might (as we don't know their financial set up) have a knock on impact on her standard of living ? That might sound 'mean' because I'm aware a small child - who is in no way at fault - is at the heart of this, but nonetheless they're all valid considerations ........ and where does it stop ? He's basically saying it's his way or no way, with no attempt to compromise if this is something he feels strongly about. In the OP's shoes I'd like to hear from him just why he thinks this is such a good idea - I'd want to pin down his motives .... because if it's simply about appeasing his ex (why ??) I'd not be happy. If he was coming at it from a genuinely altruistic stance, as in believing this child was genuinely upset and hating the thought of it, I might be more prepared to seek out a compromise (such as the occasional day out up there) ...... but one which was far less 'full on' than an extended weekend (4 days) and one which had to be approached very carefully so this child's future expectations were managed realistically and kindly.

Quite apart from the fact the DP doesn't appear to have thought this particular occasion through properly (the 'arrangements' re: homesickness seem rather flaky for example) I do wonder what will happen going forward ? What if it 'goes well' and the child's eager to do it again ? Is it fair to say no to him after his hopes have been raised ? ....... will the DP be agreeing to further visits after this irrespective of ex's claim it'll only be 'this once' ? Still seem very very odd that she should say that - if she was genuinely concerned that her youngest was somehow losing out when his sister visited her dad, she'd surely be angling for more frequent visits (albeit that I personally think that's odd) ...... if he's that upset then surely a one-off visit isn't going to cut it and resolve this ? So why the insistence on THIS time, why couldn't a longer visit take place at a.n.other time after there'd been a few day trips ? I smell a rat as many others have too - I bet she's going away.

Having said all that - regardless of what the ex is or isn't doing, the core issue remains that the OP's DP has disregarded her feelings and made a decision without any concession towards her concerns. This doesn't bode well for the future and must be very hurtful for her to realise he holds her in such low regard.

Petal02 · 11/03/2015 14:11

Excellent post, Catsmother. I too smell a rat, not only is it the long Easter week, but the 'ring my brother if the child is homesick' all smacks of the ex planning a long weekend away somewhere and needing childcare.

I would also be intrigued to hear the OP's DH's viewpoint to find out exactly what his motives are. Is he fearful that the ex may try to stop access to his daughter if he doesn't take the 'new' child? Or is he still devoted to his ex???