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Do Scottish fans really not support England?

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HouseofHills · 12/07/2024 10:57

There’s always a running joke about Scottish fans wanting anyone but England to win and supporting which ever team England is playing against. I totally get the friendly rivalry but is it actually true that most Scottish fans want England to lose in the Euros final or do most want England to win deep down given Scotland is out?

If England aren’t playing I think most England fans would support Scotland or Wales as fellow Brits, especially in a Euro or World Cup final!

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Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:21

LSTMS30555 · 13/07/2024 23:19

@HollyKnight what you on about? You said we started the war in Afghanistan & Iraq but we didn't and like I said previously other countries constantly bring up the UK's history so damn right I'll bring up there's.

England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 all the way tomorrow peeps enjoy the show! 🦁🦁🦁

The only fans 'bringing up history' have been English fans.

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:21

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:20

The 'vitriol' isn't toward the 'English nation' really either, that's already been explained too.

I disagree and believe it is.

Hazelnutwhirl · 13/07/2024 23:21

I am English but I am hoping Spain win, only because the hype around football is unbearable and will be hundred times worse if they win.

wtfissummer · 13/07/2024 23:23

LSTMS30555 · 13/07/2024 23:12

@cupcaske123 hence my first comment on this thread, we don't care that no one likes us but I will always defend Englands players they're not our government so why be spiteful to them? They're a bunch of talented lads doing what they love representing their country 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 the hate for them/us is phenomenal

Absolutely no one is being spiteful towards the players

Have you actually RTFT?

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:24

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:21

I disagree and believe it is.

We've already established that actually reading the thread might help that.

Hazelnutwhirl · 13/07/2024 23:24

This thread also brings up another issue I have with English football,why isn’t there a team GB, we are supposed to be a United Kingdom and yet the press, government, TV and Royals pay little attention to the Scottish and Welsh teams and yet they still expect the Scot’s and the Welsh to listen and endorse the English team.

HollyKnight · 13/07/2024 23:26

It's frustrating, isn't it. Someone asks you why. You answer. They tell you no that's not true it's because X, Y and Z. 🙄

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:27

wtfissummer · 13/07/2024 23:23

Absolutely no one is being spiteful towards the players

Have you actually RTFT?

I don't feel strongly about any of the players tbh, other than accepting that many of the male players are hideously overpaid!

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:29

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:24

We've already established that actually reading the thread might help that.

I don't care what a thread on MN says. It's well established that many Scots can't stand the English. The Scottish supporting anyone but the English is not about some 'cartoon' rivalry at all.

Rollerboots · 13/07/2024 23:30

I’m Scottish, not much of a football fan though.
I’m behind England, I love the enthusiasm and positivity that comes around when they do well, can’t really be arsed with the idiots who are a bit mental about the anyone but England, a bit of light banter is good and funny. Love the Paddy Power advert!

nietzscheanvibe · 13/07/2024 23:30

LSTMS30555 · 13/07/2024 23:12

@cupcaske123 hence my first comment on this thread, we don't care that no one likes us but I will always defend Englands players they're not our government so why be spiteful to them? They're a bunch of talented lads doing what they love representing their country 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 the hate for them/us is phenomenal

FFS, read the effing thread!

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:35

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:29

I don't care what a thread on MN says. It's well established that many Scots can't stand the English. The Scottish supporting anyone but the English is not about some 'cartoon' rivalry at all.

You're certainly determined in your view. How many Scots have you actually spoken to about this?

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:36

HollyKnight · 13/07/2024 23:26

It's frustrating, isn't it. Someone asks you why. You answer. They tell you no that's not true it's because X, Y and Z. 🙄

This post is meaningless on it's own. Nobody knows who you're agreeing with.

redfacebigdisgrace · 13/07/2024 23:36

nietzscheanvibe · 13/07/2024 23:19

My posts have been quite measured and serious in their attempt to provide an honest explanation as to why some of us feel this way, and I've qualified on a number of my posts that I'm not speaking for everyone. And you're being disingenuous if you're suggesting that a very significant number of Scots DON'T feel the way I do.

There’s a different between
”most” and a “significant amount”. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I disagree with the former but I do think sadly that the latter is true. I always think less of those people though as I think it’s small minded.

nietzscheanvibe · 13/07/2024 23:36

wtfissummer · 13/07/2024 23:15

Keep stump?

Now that's just not cricket

Isn't "schtum" a German word, though? Oh, the irony 🤣

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:37

nietzscheanvibe · 13/07/2024 23:36

Isn't "schtum" a German word, though? Oh, the irony 🤣

https://www.theidioms.com/keep-schtum/
Schtum is Yiddish, from the German Stumm.

keep schtum

keep schtum meaning, origin, example, sentence, history

https://www.theidioms.com/keep-schtum

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:41

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:35

You're certainly determined in your view. How many Scots have you actually spoken to about this?

I'm not getting into a debate about it. I can't believe it's being contested. Next you'll be telling me the Welsh love the English and it's all 'banter'.

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:45

cupcaske123 · 13/07/2024 23:41

I'm not getting into a debate about it. I can't believe it's being contested. Next you'll be telling me the Welsh love the English and it's all 'banter'.

So you haven't spoken to any actual Scots about it?
You realise that most of your comments have indicated that you very much want a debate?

rupsky · 13/07/2024 23:49

Hope they getting absolutely pumped rotten tomorrow xxx

Humptysegg · 13/07/2024 23:51

Well the Scotland team have always been absolutely rubbish so it’s probably a jealousy thing for some.
I’m Scottish but not into football. However, if England win I’d be pleased.

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:55

Humptysegg · 13/07/2024 23:51

Well the Scotland team have always been absolutely rubbish so it’s probably a jealousy thing for some.
I’m Scottish but not into football. However, if England win I’d be pleased.

Jealous of what?
There have been loads of great teams and performances over the years, England aren't that special.

UnstablefromDunstable · 13/07/2024 23:55

How many English people are there? Maybe 50 million or so. Some of us are incredibly arrogant, some of us are incredibly humble. Some of us are British before we are English, some the other way round. Some want Scotland and the other UK teams to do well, some enjoy it when they lose. Some think "10 German bombers" is a hilarious song, others are absolutely mortified by it. Guess what - the same type of mix is found in other nationalities. The people who are writing generalised crap like "the English need to stop being arrogant" are being ridiculous. How can you expect a whole country not to have some arrogant voices (usually the loudest, sadly) among its people? If you don't think the Scots are capable of similar arrogance, have a listen to the lyrics to the 1978 world cup song "Ally's tartan army". Every bit as conceited and cringeworthy as anything the English have ever come up with. Sure, pull against us all you like out of friendly rivalry, but enough of the hate.

Humptysegg · 13/07/2024 23:59

Werweisswohin · 13/07/2024 23:55

Jealous of what?
There have been loads of great teams and performances over the years, England aren't that special.

They’re good enough to get in the final, so pretty good then ?
Scotland are memorable for being thrashed on the pitch.

nietzscheanvibe · 14/07/2024 00:01

redfacebigdisgrace · 13/07/2024 23:36

There’s a different between
”most” and a “significant amount”. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I disagree with the former but I do think sadly that the latter is true. I always think less of those people though as I think it’s small minded.

OK, I'll go out on a limb and say "most". Walk down any high street in Scotland tomorrow and ask 100 people if they want England to win and I'd say most of them would say "NO". And it's not small-mindedness on our part, quite the contrary, it's the small-minded attitudes forced upon US (as explained multiple times by various people on this thread) that's the cause.

rupsky · 14/07/2024 00:05

No Scot js jealous of England! The England fans are an absolute embarrassment to themselves for a start... tip of the iceberg!

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