Do Scottish fans really not support England?

[HouseofHills]

There’s always a running joke about Scottish fans wanting anyone but England to win and supporting which ever team England is playing against. I totally get the friendly rivalry but is it actually true that most Scottish fans want England to lose in the Euros final or do most want England to win deep down given Scotland is out?

If England aren’t playing I think most England fans would support Scotland or Wales as fellow Brits, especially in a Euro or World Cup final!

I think any actually team winning the euros deserves to celebrate tbh.

I think we'd be too busy listening to the sound of hell freezing over to hear the celebrations.

That’s the problem. England haven’t won the euros either!

Exactly!

I'm a Scot so I support Scotland against all comers until they go out. If that happens I support England We're all British after all. It's mean spirited to wish I'll fortune on our neighbours.

I'm all for England winning but would quite like the BBC to dial down on all the "It's coming home" accompanied by " whooarr" into the camera shite.

Do you think the BBC would just ignore Scotland if by some miracle they ever made it to the final? I'm pretty sure the BBC would show wall to wall tartan if that ever happened.

For me, it’s simply that England is not my team so completely ambivalent if they win or not. Nothing to do with being anti English.

im a mix - Scottish Dad , and my mum is Irish. I was born in England.

Will always support Scotland whilst they still in a competition and watch & support England in their games.

I will happily scream at the TV and cheer for England on Sunday. Family members will being cheering for Spain & hoping England won’t win. But for most of the family all a bit of banter between us all.

Your parents actually behave that way towards you?

Having seen some of your subsequent posts, I can understand how you've turned out so bitter

I'm sorry this happened to you

I think that some news sources constantly speak of the nation - when they mean England. The English team use the national anthem - God save the King.
They are referred to as the B@£%ard English around here.
One of the locals has changed the flags in his house to be whatever team England are playing against.

Thank goodness Scotland and England weren't drawn against each other.

It's mean spirited to tell others who to support.

A MODERN-DAY PARABLE

Once upon a time, there were two young sisters, the taller sister was called Elizabeth and the shorter sister was named Selina. The girls had an Auntie, called Bessie. When Aunt Bessie spoke to Elizabeth, she always called her by her name, but when she spoke to Selina, quite often she would call Selina “Elizabeth” by mistake. Selina felt very sad when Aunt Bessie did this and it sometimes made Selina cry.

Now Selina was very fond of her sister Elizabeth, they had been through a lot together as sisters and Selina knew that it wasn’t Elizabeth’s fault that Aunt Bessie kept getting her name wrong, but it happened so often, and for so long, that Selina couldn’t help but start to feel a little resentment towards Elizabeth, because it was very obvious that Elizabeth was Aunt Bessie’s favourite.

One time, Aunt Bessie came to see Selina in her school play and Selina was thrilled; Elizabeth was there too. Aunt Bessie would also be going to see Elizabeth’s school play later that same week but, for now, Selina had Aunt Bessie’s full attention. At the interval, Selina ran excitedly to Aunt Bessie to talk about her play, but Aunt Bessie soon began talking to them both about Elizabeth's upcoming play instead.

Aunt Bessie even brought out some old photographs from a different play that Elizabeth had been in a very long time ago. This made Selina very sad because she couldn’t understand what these photographs, from an old play of Elizabeth’s, had to do with Selina’s play, which they were watching right now. Selina cried.

Through her tears, Selina shouted at Elizabeth “I hope you forget your lines when it’s time for your play”. Elizabeth felt that this was very mean of Selina, and she couldn’t understand why Selina would want her to fail, especially as Elizabeth had a big speech to make in her own play’s final scene: “you should want me to do well, because I’m very talented, and I’m much better than you at everything, and no one really cares about you anyway” said Elizabeth.

On the day of Elizabeth’s play, she did indeed fluff her lines in the final scene, as she always does. Elizabeth cried and cried and cried.

Selina smiled.

The End

Okay folks, I think I might have become trapped in this thread, please call for help!

(And I just know I’m gonna regret writing the last part of that parable as England will probably go on to win now). 😆😭

What like in the last euros, where we came down, had a ball, danced in the fountains and drew with you? That was awful!

I’m Scottish and would happily support England but the commentators and pundits ruin it. They are so arrogant and it’s felt from the very beginning that the only ‘home nation’ in the euros is England.

I very much doubt many English fans would support Scotland. I know quite a few all of which celebrated when Scotland lost and all rooted against Scotland in every game.

I'm not surprised after reading this thread and how much the English are hated by most of Scotland. This thread has really opened my eyes tbh. Shame really.

If that's your conclusion then you really are completely missing the point. 😬

"the English" are not hated by "most" of Scotland. What a ridiculous thing to say.

Not even by the ones who call us the 'Bastard English'?

'Most' of Scotland don't call English folk that. 🫣

I think you need to live in Scotland and see it from our perspective.
This year lots of main brand shops released English support tops/ decorations etc and then very lately added Scottish items. There’s never the same amount of variation for us.
Theres barely any Scottish pundits and they all seem to disappear when Scotland leave the euros.

Overall it’s the way that Scotland is treated like a massive joke. That the majority of English pundits, commentators and fans all laughed when Scotland were put out. That they all suggested they go home early and not bother to turn up as they won’t be there long.

I’m not supporting Spain tomorrow night but I won’t be supporting England either.

If this thread had "opened your eyes", you would perhaps, erm, understand why we feel this way? And that most of us don't hate the English!

I've found this thread quite sad really and now I'm thinking that all the Scottish people I know secretly hate me 🤣 Oh well. COME ON ENGLAND!

No-one hates you - unless of course you’re a very unpleasant person who behaves appallingly? I imagine you’re not, in which case your Scottish friends won’t be thinking that way about you. Fear not.