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bubblagirl · 05/06/2009 19:15

thought maybe as there is a pre school thread maybe we could have a going to be starting school or at school thread all welcome really

but we are waiting for our re written proposed statement to turn up tomorrow hoping all is going to be as we need it this time

im really nervous and anxious about him starting school bubblaboy my 4 yr old with HFA for all who may not know me

he had induction today but his sound sensitivity was played up with singing time so may have to ask if he can sit outside of the group with support when he starts and introduced to it gradually as at the moment he dont like big school dont want to go and doesn't like the singing so would hate for that to be what ruins his joy of going to school every day

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bubblagirl · 07/06/2009 14:41

what about school action plus is this what he'll be on when he starts? if not could you ask about it

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bubblagirl · 07/06/2009 14:43

here

im not so clued up on it but there is another thread about on here discussing it

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movingintothefuture · 08/06/2009 02:31

I don't think he qualifies for that. He was assessed for an IEP whilst at nursery but it wasn't deemed necessary. Interesting as this is the same nursery we withdrew him from 2 months later after we discovered the psychological damage they were doing Have to make appointment to see school anyway as can't fill in his likes/dislikes form thing they want done so will discuss with them. I would like an edu psyc to assess him at some point and this might be a good idea to bring that up too. I think on the whole these are the only people who know what the situation is because simply they have to deal with it. Medical professionals are just too remote from the reality of it all.

Thanks for the hint though and will go look at other thread. Have retrieved my mantre "I must think about the positive" from bin and have at least the comfort that ds will now wipe his own bum so that is one more hope he can do before school thing to cross off. Even if he chooses not to do it again before school he can so will when necessary. small things hey...

bubblagirl · 08/06/2009 07:42

well my ds wont even poo on a toilet only nappy so we have that to deal with but im taking small steps at getting him where he needs to be

its worth asking for that support from what i see the school can request if ds needs extra help at school so lets hope its something that they can do for him and also get ball rolling for any other help

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bubblagirl · 08/06/2009 07:45

well im sending it all back today so wish us luck im aiming for the speech therapy part a si know he still needs this as he doesn't speak as other 4 yr olds do he has limited speech sounds so can be so unclear so im not allowing no SALT at all when he starts school so im fighting as far as i need to go now

he'll never learn how to talk correctly if they stop helping him now

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oneforward20back · 08/06/2009 08:05

Good luck with it. Am making appointment with school. this worrying is driving me mad and the lack of sleep is a pain in ass! I get little enough as it is.

tiredmummyoftwo · 08/06/2009 08:18

Hi bubblagirl, really understand what you are going through as my ds will be 4 in July and we are currently looking for a suitable school. We are outside the UK and did not want to apply to any of the school in town as DS was very behind, so we were thinking about leaving him in nursery. But he has made huge progress since we made the decision to keep him at nursery. Now we are stuck with no school having vacancy and no school having any special need provision. The only British school near us asked me if he could read and write as it is one of their admission criteria. The obnoxiousness of the whole conversation put me of so much, I am wondering whether he should go to school or should we just keep him at home. Sorry for ranting. Good luch with the statement.

bubblagirl · 08/06/2009 08:50

thank you tiredmummy and oneforward i know what you mean baout lack of sleep i kept waking all weekend playing conversations in my mind and jumping out of bed to write my letter back its been hard

i would have left at home but i feel socially needs to be with others as his such a mummy boy and lacks in social skills i was worried about consequences of leaving him there

tiredmummy could you leave him in nursery and ask school if any vacancies come up if theres a chance ds could go into school
maybe in nursery they could do some iep to provide some extra help to prepare for school some more tasks that will be needed within school etc

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tiredmummyoftwo · 08/06/2009 10:08

we can leave him at nursery, but we have recently been sending a private SALT for extra help and been told that he was just left alone in one corner as he was not able to participate in any activities. They made no attempt to integrate him and although with the SALT being there they are now prepared to keep him one extra year, we have lost faith. Not that we have much option either as I have called every single listed nursery, but nobody has space for a 4 years old. What really upset me was that it has only been the 5th visit of SALT, he is already participating and trying to initiate contact with other kids, even if just holding their hand and jumping up and down.

bubblagirl · 08/06/2009 11:34

do they have senco that ca get involved at nursery to get some iep drawn up and help them to help him with some activities to initiate play etc this is what my ds nursery does name games making children call each others name 3 in group with my ds so he can learn there names and how to interact with another child they do 1-1 games with him and another child whether its playing catch or a game they need to work together on

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Shells · 09/06/2009 01:07

tiredmummy I'm not sure where you are, but that all sounds totally unacceptable. as bubbla says - they must have a 'senco' or equivalent. he has rights to a proper education and leaving him in a corner is not good enough!

Is keeping him at home for now an option? He might make better progress.

tiredmummyoftwo · 09/06/2009 11:46

We are in UAE, no they don't have any SENCO and being like business, all schools only want to take on normal children so that their ratings go up. Public schools here are for nationals only, so you can't get one of those, not that we think introducing arabic to him is going to work. Like bubbla said, it's the social aspects of it worries us regarding home tuition.

bubblagirl · 09/06/2009 11:53

have no idea if this site would be of help but found it and may be worth looking at

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bubblagirl · 09/06/2009 11:54

for you tiredmummy the link above it may or may not help i have no idea about UAE but this site has some things you may be able to make sense of

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sc13 · 09/06/2009 13:43

Hello!! DS should start reception in January 2011, and I am of course terrified and completely disorganized. BBgirl, what a nightmare - those f* b**s!!
Sorry I haven't been on MN as regularly - work has been catching up with me after all...

bubblagirl · 09/06/2009 14:02

good to see you back sc13 it is correct what you say there lol 3rd time lucky i should know in about 2 weeks

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oneforward20back · 09/06/2009 18:29

Hope you have something more positive back. Meeting with school was fantastic! The head really has her head screwed on. In short ds will be benchmarked asap, IEP, social skills classes and after 1/2 term Psyc Ed in.
The question of SN type problems due to IQ or IQ covering SN problems raised and is going to be investigated, the emotional issues (OCD, collecting and hiding, and seperation anxiety etc ) are going to be addressed. I have a plan for surviving to the point of him starting school and been told that when he starts to stop worrying as it becomes their problem and they WILL deal with it. The is hope! [Grin]

tiredmummyoftwo · 09/06/2009 19:41

Thank you bubblagirl, tomorrow will be busy, I will call the two schools and nursery, fingers crossed. The autism centre is for the locals.

oneforward20back · 09/06/2009 21:22
Shells · 09/06/2009 23:29

How did you get on tiredmummy. I really feel for you. Sounds like an extremely difficult position to be in.

bubblagirl · 10/06/2009 07:59

oneforward im really glad you had such a positive meet with the school bubbla boy has another induction and i plan to leave him with his pre school teacher there at the school today she is the senco from pre school but coming in to offer support at school as no statement as yet until he starts full time

so im going to try and go and have a coffee with another mum and leave him with her to see how he conforms without me there

tiredmummy wasn't sure if that would help,or not my knowledge is zero for over there but i hope someone may be able to push you in right direction good luck

well i will get back later we have big school and our last speech therapy today can only hope statement will pull there finger out and allow him direct SALT in school it'd be a bad thing to stop it now as he still cannot produce most speech sounds he may talk but its atypical they drive me mad

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bubblagirl · 10/06/2009 16:49

have received the letter to say they the lea have received my letter and are now dealing with it

have also spoke to speech therapist who will speak to the one who wrote my report so she may be able to write to them and tell them the consequences of not having speech therapy or direct contact anyway with a speech therapist will do

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tiredmummyoftwo · 10/06/2009 18:51

Hello all, just to update you, today has not been that successful, the schools on the list are not even accepting application for waiting lists and the only recommended nursery did not return my call, I am going to follow up tomorrow. On top of that, DS2 had a fall at school and split her lip.

Bubblagirl, I don't see how the LEA can get away with not providing speech therapist as bubblaboy has atypical speech, you should definitely appeal if it does not go your way, you may want to write a letter of reconsideration with a report from the speech therapist (it worked sometimes when I was practising as an education lawyer, although I did not continue with it for more than 6 months, now I wish I had). But I would definitely want something in writing from the speech therapist, I just don't trust LEA and their employees. If you provide a written letter of support from your therapist, it will help you with the tribunal if you have to go there.

bubblagirl · 10/06/2009 19:12

tiredmummy good luck for tomorrow poor ds2 hope his lip is ok?

i have got a message being sent to SALT who done the report for statement to see if she can do anything else so hopefully it'll get him what he deserves

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tiredmummyoftwo · 15/06/2009 06:29

Hello all, just thought I update you on my search for finding a suitable school for DD1. So far we have had no luck, and just put him on the waiting list for some schools which are out of town and will take me over half an hour to drive there on the motorway. I feel so frustrated, but it's not an option to come back to the UK for the time being.

Bubblagirl, DD2 is alright and well recovered, I am not sure I have. Thanks for asking.

In my desperation (as the therapist we have may be leaving), i called every school and centres on the list to see if there is any loophole for non-nationals. Unfortunately, there is none and my suspicion that the word 'discrimination' does not exist in Arabic dictionary becomes confirmed.