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Co-sleepers - help me with my constantly waking 6 month old please! (LONG POST!)

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ChairmumMiaow · 20/07/2008 10:47

DS is 6 months old today, and we've been co-sleeping in various ways since he was about 3 months and grew out of his moses basket.

Before he came out of the basket, he was (briefly) sleeping pretty well (IMO) waking 1-2 times a night, and I was feeling good. When we took him out because it was too small, he started waking more often. I presumed this was a combination of the change of sleeping environment and the hot spell we were having at the same time. I thought it would get better!

Since then, its just got worse - he's waking more and more, so I have him in bed with me more and more, and now I'm losing my confidence in what I'm doing. It feels like he won't sleep for long without my nipple in his mouth (although I know its not actually as bad as that). He wakes every 1-2 hours, but seems to only sleep for more than an hour in our bed - he used to do about 3 hours in his cot to start with then wake frequently after that, but now we're lucky if we get an hour at the start of the evening (he normally goes to sleep between 8 and 9pm and just feeds then plays if we do bath earlier)

Some days I feel ok - if he just wakes to get latched on I barely wake up, but after weeks of doing this, I'm getting aches and pains in my back and arms. I normally lay him in the crook of my arm to feed, so when I go to sleep I get a dead arm after a while which wakes me up. Sometimes I can then roll him over onto his back, and he sleeps for a while longer, but other times he wakes up, which wakes me up more, and we have to get comfortable again...

If I try to feed him without being in my arm, I have to roll a bit further onto my side (but not completely over as that seems not to work) which gives me backache as my bac is twisted slightly. I've thought of supporting my back with a long cushion, but thought that it would just wake me up more to get it in place.

If I try to put him back in his bedside cot after every feed, I just wake up shattered. If I try to get him back to sleep by patting etc, he just works himself up into full crying, which I can't stand! Same thing happens when DH tries - as he does when he hears me and DS getting worked up!

I've had people suggesting that I'm waking him up myself, and that he might sleep better in his own room, and as each night I just get that little bit more tired, I'm starting to doubt the route I've chosen and wonder if I make DS sleep as he does! (but I really don't want him in another room just yet)

He doesn't feed as much as he used to in the day, and is not yet eating much solids (he started BLW very slowly about 3 weeks ago) so I know that he needs to catch up at night to a certain extent, but it feels like he's snacking a lot...

So I'm wondering if I can -

a) improve my sleep-feeding technique - any hints?
b) use some other non-crying technique to get him back to sleep
c) try a dummy (I don't particularly like them, but don't hate them...)
d) do something else...

If I can get more comfortable feeding him in bed, I'll be happy, as when I'm not knackered, I don't worry about getting him into bad habits, and DH and I have agreed we're happy to have him in our bed for some time. When I'm tired though, I feel like I'm doing everything wrong!

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peachsmuggler · 04/11/2008 15:53

I find that DD settles herself a lot these days. She is currently in second hour of a nap having amazingly settled herself after the usual 45 min wakeup. Yayyy!

know what you mean of being jealous Chairmum, in some ways would LOVE to get pg soonish, but realistically will wait another year or so am sure!

LaTrucha · 04/11/2008 16:35

Congratulations Hadeda! That's great.

At HV Peach. I've seen 6 Hvs and from each one I've had a 'well, that's the problem with bf' line about SOMETHING. I've never had a 'Well, that's the good thing about bf' line either.

LaTrucha · 04/11/2008 16:35

On second thoughts, not at all. Totally bloody typical.

takingitasitcomes · 04/11/2008 19:02

Hurrah Hadeda - how exciting! I love stories like yours as we took a long time to conceive the first time, and I'm secretly hoping that it'll all happen a bit quicker next time.

Thanks for the suggestion about waking him early Peach - I'll think about that one for a day or two before trying it I think. Setting the alarm sounds gruesome - but then it's only 10 mins earlier than normal.

takingitasitcomes · 04/11/2008 19:05

By the way - at what age did your LOs drop to two naps from three (if they did)? I am starting to think that DS is making that sort of transition at the moment as his naps are more erratic than usual and he's refused his third one three days out of the last seven. He'll be 6 months this Friday. Any tips for helping him into it?

peachsmuggler · 04/11/2008 19:11

LOL at thought of DD ever having had 3 naps.

Seriously though, I guess all you can do is watch him for tired signs and try to make the transition. Maybe he will be awake a little longer before first 2 naps. What time does he have these at the moment.

Although DD never had 3 naps I think at about 6 months she did start extending her awake times. I had just started to try and get her down 2 hours after she had last woken, as per HSHHC, and it seemed to be working for a couple of weeks but then she started being able to be awake for longer periods.

takingitasitcomes · 04/11/2008 19:18

I thought that question might raise some tired eyebrows on this thread! But it is helpful to know that your DD extended her awake times at about this age. DS's first nap is usually sometime between 8.30 and 9, and then his second at about 1. He has been having a third sometime around 4.30 too, but is really kicking up a fuss about it now (even though it's in the sling - I'm not even making him go anywhere near the cot!). His bed-time is usually between 6.30 and 7pm. He was asleep by 6.25 this evening as he was so tired from missing that third nap.

Piccalilli2 · 05/11/2008 08:32

Congratulations hadeda!

Dd has never really had 3 naps a day - I'm lucky if I can get her down for 2 and even then it's always in the pram/car seat.

Bad night last night, she woke at 10:40, 12, 1, 3,4 and 5. We co-slept from 12. The worst thing was I was actually hoping got a better night as she'd had 2 good naps, plenty to eat and a nice early bedtime.

LaTrucha · 05/11/2008 08:59

DD never really did three naps either. We tried it for a while but it didn't suit.

peachsmuggler · 05/11/2008 10:31

takingit In that case, he might start going till 9.30 in the morn and maybe 2ish in the afternoon, then you could switch to the earlier bedtime, like last night.

At the moment (8 months) we get up at 7.30, have naps at 10 and then 2.30-3ish (about 45-60 mins for each) and then bed at 7.

Last night she went down about 7.45 then had a feed at 11 and then was awake from 1-3 (just could not get her back down). I got into bed with her at 3 and she slept pretty well. She is definitely more of a deep sleeper as she has got bigger. Usually when co-cleeping she would be on and pff the breast all night, but now quite often she even sleeps with her head facing the other way!

I had stupidly stayed up till 1am watching the election results (yayyy!)so am knackered today.

ChairmumMiaow · 05/11/2008 11:12

We only ever get 3 naps when any of the earlier ones is half an hour or less.

Good night last night for us - went out for dinner on our own. Tried to dream feed at 10 but DS woke up and kept pulling off to grin at his daddy. However he went back in his cot with no trouble (could hear him burbling to himself for about 15 minutes) and sent himself back to sleep. No 2am wakeup, (although I did!) but went straight through till 4.20 for a feed, back in cot (cried for about a minute as he was awake) and slept till 7am (precisely according to DH).

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takingitasitcomes · 05/11/2008 19:09

Thanks for the thoughts on naps everyone. Those timings sound about right for us Peach, so I think we may start working towards that now.

Sounds like a great night Chairmum - congratulations!

We had a bad night last night - DH walked into the door and woke DS at about 10.30 and he got a fright and wouldn't settle for another hour and a half. The rest of the night was really touch-and-go too (wouldn't let go of my breast without waking) and he woke at 6am as usual. Argh! I think I got four and a half hours sleep and DH about 5 and a half. We're both feeling shattered this week. And now DS has woken up because all the fireworks have started. Double Argh!

ChairmumMiaow · 06/11/2008 07:44

Another great night!

Dreamfeed at 10, not a peep (although DH said he heard something when I woke for the loo at around 4) until 5.40! Dozed for a bit while I fed him in bed then we all lay around in bed till about 6.30. Great night, lovely family time this morning

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peachsmuggler · 06/11/2008 08:51

Aww, sounds lovely Chairmum!

DP had to settle DD every hour last night from 7-11 (think it might have been the fireworks) then fed at 11 then 3.40 then into bed at 6 till 7.45.

Hadeda · 06/11/2008 12:12

Chairmum - that sounds so lovely, I'm glad things are settling so well for you.

Takingit - my DD dropped her 4:00pm nap around 5 months-ish if that helps. She is pretty good at the first nap, was hopeless at the second one (I spent most of August working on that) and with the third one she just got to the point where she simply wouldn't settle. So I tried dropping it and she was fine.

Picalilli - hope you had a better night last night. I spent a long time trying to sort out DD's day time sleep in the hopes it would help the nights, which it has (other than when she's ill/teething) so I hope the same happens with you. But I do remember feeling really cheated when we'd had the "perfect" day and she still woke up at night.

We had a rotten night last night. DD still has a cold (started coughing now) and I don't know if it was that or if it was my first day at work but she was up most of the night - think I got about 3.5 hours sleep. She was just crying and crying even when we held her, at one point I started worrying (irrationally I know) about whether she had meningitis. She would only doze while feeding/with boob in her mouth so neither she nor I slept much at all. I woke DH up at 5:30 because I absolutely HAD to get some sleep otherwise I'd never get to work. I just felt so helpless not know how to comfort her at all and she was really crying, not just little moans. Poor girl. The nursery said she was sleeping this morning so I hope she feels a bit better today.

Piccalilli2 · 06/11/2008 12:16

Not a bad night here all things considered. She took a while to settle cos of the fireworks but then slept til 12:40!! She came into bed after that and woke again at 3 and 5:50 but I'm quite pleased with that.

takingitasitcomes · 06/11/2008 12:39

Mixed night here. The fireworks were a pain, but he slept until midnight before coming into our bed. I was too tired from the night before to bother trying to put him in the cot again. Another early wake-up at 5 with a humungus nappy (we'd been waiting for it for days) and then DH eventually got him settled in the cot and he slept until 6.50am which was much better than he's managed since the clock-change. So I'm tired - but not feeling hopeless.

peachsmuggler · 06/11/2008 12:41

How's work going hadeda. You must be exhauseted after last night, poor thing.

I think our sleep is working the other way round, i.e. better sleeping at night is helping naps. After thinking that we were never going to break the 45 min barrier, we've had 3 naps in as many days where she has slept for well more than an hour, and a couple of those, we had to wake her. Feel like we are slowly reaching sleep nirvana!!

LaTrucha · 06/11/2008 13:38

Well Peach that's great BUT last night we ARRIVED at sleep nirvana. DD went to sleep so quickly she was sparked out before the 3 minute check and she didn't wake up until 6.30AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately I was awake because my hand really hurt and double

takingitasitcomes · 06/11/2008 13:48

Wow!!! Lots of big strides at the moment! Let's hope it's catching! LaTrucha that certainly is nirvana (except for you not sleeping!) - I can't wait to get there. What's it like???

LaTrucha · 06/11/2008 13:54

AMAAAAAAAZING

peachsmuggler · 06/11/2008 15:32

OMG - that's brilliant LaTrucha and just think, this time last night you were a bit apprehensive about CC, sounds like it has been brillaint for you guys.

Congrats!!!!

What's up with your hand?

LaTrucha · 06/11/2008 15:49

No idea - just hurt at 2am ????

Naps BTW are a disaster area ATM. She can go to sleep BF - but not all the time. She can go to sleep in the pram - but not all the time. She can't go to sleep through rocking but will not lie down. She will not go to sleep for a nap through CC.

Any ideas?

Piccalilli2 · 06/11/2008 15:56

Mine won't nap unless in the car or the pram, and the pram is touch and go. I've just been for an hour long drive to get her to have an afternoon nap - so if anyone does have any ideas I'd love to hear them too!

Great news about your fantastic night though LaTrucha, it gives me hope!

LaTrucha · 06/11/2008 16:28

I'm wondering whether to go for one afternoon nap and drop the morning one. Hmmmm