SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK PART 6 - now with added caffeine*

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Morning all,

Hope you find this!

for your rough night Amber.

After a few good ones, we had a crap one too. Up at 1.30, 3, 4.30, 5.30, 6.15........
I think she was a bit overtired last night. Hope we can get her napping better today .

So how were all your nights?

thats hard. dds nap is slightly more reliable now, but with 2 still napping and not at the same time, i guess it means you dont get a break during the day either? have you tried co sleeping to make it easier, or are you not keen? i just find, for me (being a bit of a lazy arse)! it means i get more rest

i would love to continue c/s but DF doesn't want to, but not willig to help durin night either!

arrrgggghhh!! i'm very lucky then, in that dp ok about co sleeping. although he's dead to the world at night and very rarely wakes, unless i kick him!!

Df very light sleeper, any thing wakes him, literally anything!

welcome DF tell your Df if he won't allow co-sleeping then he'll have to do every other wake up. think you might see he changes his mind!

sorry can't believe i used the word allow there. what am i a 1950's housewife. bows head in shame...........

also meant welcome bealcain not df! god have just been to the gym. think all the oxygen must have left my brain. right am going now before i make any more cock ups.

tamdin we tried that, i ened up doing all but one and we had an argument at like 3:30am....fun!

Hi Beal

Could you get a bedside cot? (or just take one side off your existing cot). Then you could have LO beside you without disturbing your DF (is that Dear Fiancé or something?)

hi bealcain, your df sounds a bit unreasonable if you ask me, but that's men for you. why does he seem to think that doing wake ups is solely your job?

thanks for support yesterday everyone. i think i went a bit bananas. i refused to get out of bed all night and poor dh was left settling ds after he got home from work at probably midnight. i feel horrible for having done that, but honestly i had nothing left. i feel really tired, but i still did go to yoga this morning and i managed to put LO down for his nap at 9 and then nicked off via a takeaway coffee and did a good practice. will try and make a habit of this on saturdays definitely. last night was v unsettled, but entirely my fault as i refused to feed ds

Leo, we're glad you've joined us, and i'm happy you got a decent stretch last night.

amber don't worry we have all those meltdown moments esp when you give as much as you do. so glad you went to yoga. Can you make it out any evening on your own to a class or to see a friend etc or is dh's work too unpredictable?
I go to gym mon, wed and sat and dh has tues, thurs and fri (early evening) to himself. Although often he stays home because he likes us all be being together. me i'm out the door on my nights!

i know it's hard but i would persevere with the ebm if it meant ds could feed ds while you're out.

Thanks everyone, in answer to your questions:

She is 16 months

She only slept well for about 6 weeks (from 14monthsish) so not sure if the sleeping well was the blip rather than the waking iykwim?

She still has one daytime nap, can be anything from 40 mins to 2.5 hours (most usually between 1h30 to 2hrs, although this has also reduced the last few weeks and is more commonly 1hr now)

She is still in a cot for now, have ordered her a big girl bed for christmas as feel she is almost ready and that way she has 6 months or so to decide to sleep in it rather than being kicked out of cot by baby. Unfortunately her bedroom is tiny, and would just fit a proper sized single in except for the fact that we need to also have room for the baby to join her in there at some point. For this reason we can only really get her a toddler bed although i am pretty small so once bump is gone i reckon i could lie there long enough to get her to sleep!.

No real reson why dh couldn't help, except he just doesn't. Have asked him to, and he agrees but still doesn't do it

CB i'm intrigued. I can't think what could have changed if she was sleeping through the night for 6 weeks. ds has always been in bed with us so when he woke it was either teeth or hunger (we've only recently dropped the night milk and he's 20 months!)
so i knew separation anxiety wasn't one of the options but it could be for your dd (?)

either that or she's going through a developmental milestone and if so it will def pass.

ps i wouldn't wake her in the morning if i were you. i'd enjoy the peace and rest

Tam, I'd love to go out to the gym in the week (preferably every night , but dh not getting home until 8 or so and then there's dinner and all theclean up from ds' dinner etc. i'm not sure if it would work on a regular basis. probably easier on weekends. one thing is for sure, i need to get some exercise going and preferably more than once a week, so my mind will keep plotting.
one problem is that it's harder to express milk now, my milk supply seems to have (finally) calmed down, so it's a pita to get enough. i don't know if ds will relialby take a bottle (i guess he would if i persevered enough, but i am so lazy). am tossing around the idea of formula in my head, but it's hard for me to adapt my mindset when i have exclusively breastfed him this far.

moxie CB have you tried emailing ask moxie to see what she thinks?

i know amber. ds had soya formula (from 8m)and it never sat well with me either. It would make life bit easier for you and if it was only one bottle a night it wouldn't be end of world but at same time you've dome so well to get this far. all of that was no help!

Amber could you find a gym near you that has a creche?

Amber: I've heard good things about Sunstone, which is in Stoke N and has a creche. You do need some time to yourself occasionally, time to do what you want and not just to get jobs done . I go through periods of being so tired and ratty and fed up with being up every blardy night and and and... you're not being a bad mum for a) complaining or b) expecting your DH to have a difficult time of it as well at times

Welcome Leo and B

I would have posted that DS went to sleep at 6 without any problem, but he's now wide awake and playing at smashing DH's brick towers. I think it's a cunning ploy to eat my lasagne.

Went to Sutton House today for the first time - completely empty, v friendly staff and DS had a great time toddling about all the rooms and making the occasional dive for the stairs .

EP, funny, i just looked up some classes at Sunstone today that I could potentially do. I don't seem to have enough time in the day though to get in ds' naps, food and baby activities, plus something for me. will try once a week though to do something i think and put him in creche. i actually think he'd love the creche.

morning

ok night here
ds went to bed at 8
stirred couple of times and hogged the bed
woke at 7 for the day

Not looking forward to when that will be 6. know i shouldn't complain, compared to ginger's early starts we're on easy street but because we've never had them 6 is going to feel early

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