The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

Two wake ups here so not too bad. Hope you're feeling better today @whoateallthepercypigs.

Just got Ds to sleep for his first nap. Not much planned. Going to wander into town as suggested out at the moment and I don't think it's going to last...

So sitting huddled in front of our gas fire
It's beyond freezing here. DH ill, I'm ill and we've just had to cancel our plans to have guests staying this weekend. Utterly fed up!

@lizzlebizzle I'm always flying solo but my 7 year old finishes school at lunchtime so I have a bit of help as she will entertain him while I do jobs

DS is continuing his night by screaming and not napping. Not sure what to do with him. I think it's teeth as his hands are shoved in his mouth.

He's had neurofen (I recommend baby neorofen over Calpol for teeth) and teething gel so not sure what else to do

worlds0kayestmum completely justified...I get so angry when dh says he's tired despite not getting up at night with ds. Sorry you've had a rubbish morning...hope it gets better.

This thread moves so fast, it's difficult for my sleep deprived brain to keep up!

Last night was normal rubbish once ds got back to sleep at 9. Dh couldn't sleep so stayed up watching Netflix and is tired this morning.
Since ds started in food dh doesn't get 2hour lie ins anymore because we have breakfast together. Dh brought ds downstairs a few days ago and I stayed in bed, I got up 15minutes later because I was fed up of hearing him say where's mummy to ds! He used that against me this morning...apparently I stay in bed when I'm tired so why can't he. I've done that twice since ds was born, and for 5.5 months he's got up when he wants. He shut up when I said if I got to stay in bed when I was tired I wouldn't have got out of bed for 6months!

All ok now, but just when I think he's getting it he says something like that.
Ds is napping on me (and I've not got my book), and dh is upstairs reading for his course now with his eyes closed and snoring like a pneumatic drill

I do so much ranting here! Ds's sleep isn't improving but glad I have somewhere to talk about all this and know that people understand. Thanks everyone!

@Meepmoop same here with ds2, just screaming instead of sleeping, I've put it down to teething and given calpol. He seems a bit happier and is having a nice pram nap while I am in my happy place 😄

I've left ds1 with AH today ( yes he's back to AH again) as I've had enough of him after our hideous trip to Blackpool sea life yesterday, I am never paying to go in anywhere with him again!!
Absolute waste of money, he didn't give a shit about the fish and just ran wild around the place screaming. Nobody else's children doing this, so embarrassing. Had to carry him out screaming 🙈🙈🙈

That's it now, beach and park and other free stuff only!!

@lizzlebizzle
Yup mine did that when baby was born and was a nightmare at all those indoor play places clinging and screaming while other kids same age happily played. It was a phase that has so far thankfully passed

Update from last night - up at 3am not really crying but grumbling - I let it go on for a few minutes and then stood by the door for a few minutes and she subsided... and I guess fell asleep... next wake up was at 645am!

Today’s naps were rubbish though and had to cuddle her to sleep each time. It’s day 3 without dummy; night 4 tonight hopefully she gets the hang of it soon...

Hi, can I join? I have a 6 month old dd who's never slept well, co-sleeps (necessity, not my choice) wakes every 1-2 hrs and refuses most naps. I can currently hear her alternating between crying and clapping on the monitor despite being rocked, pitch black room, white noise, Ewan, story etc. I'm exhausted :(

@UtterlyConfused111 it is awful, I felt judged by everyone. He was the opposite of clingy though, literally running wild without a care where I was. I think he was still on a sugar high from birthday cake the day before!!

Hi @BackIntoTheSun sorry I cannot offer any advice, only solidarity, currently in bed cuddling my 5mo old so he will nap. I hate co sleeping but would get no sleep at all otherwise.
We do what we can to survive don't we! 💐

@lizzlebizzle33 yep co-sleeping means I get not much sleep, but it's a step up from zero sleep which is what I'd get if she was in the cot crying!

@BackIntoTheSun I hear ya! I hate it, but will probably miss it one day when he doesn't want to cuddle me at all anymore, so I'm just going to try and make the most of it.xx

Hi @BackIntoTheSun just sending for you

@FrozenMargarita17 thanks! I basically live on tea and cake at the moment

backintothesun no advice but you've come to the right place for a good moan about not sleeping, with other people who understand. My ds is 6 months old, weve been co sleeping for just over 3 months now. Like you not by choice but around Christmas ds stopped sleeping in his cot and the only way I get any sleep is co sleeping.

Strange non sleep related question... does anyone else's baby scream, I mean a proper shouting scream. Ds does high pitch eardrum bursting screams when he's happy, playing, just because but not when he's upset. I think he's just found out he can make lots of noise and is enjoying it, but I've never heard another baby scream like it and wonder what the neighbours think

@MummyCuddlesSolveEverything I need a good place to moan/vent!

Mine doesn't scream but she is v loud, shrieking etc, and especially when resisting sleep (like right now) she makes a loud groaning noise to keep herself awake. It's quite embarrassing when she does it in public! She's never been one of those quiet, docile, sleep anywhere-type babies that other people seem to have

Ahh I feel like I’ve found my home in this thread!

@backintothesun we are much the same (also 6 months). I never wanted to co sleep but give in most nights. You just have to get through somehow! I have also replaced sleep with sugar

@whoateall hope you’re feeling a bit better

@worlds0kayestmum did you thump him? You would definitely be justified!

Good luck for dummy free night 4 @utterly - you’re braver than me!

Hoping a return to normal bedtime will improve things tonight - last night was rubbish... I keep thinking it must be something I’m doing/not doing - DD clearly needs to sleep as she’s miserable when she doesn’t, but I can’t seem to make it work feeling pretty defeated at the moment...

@mummycuddles mine has just discovered shrieking! It is generally happy not upset and she is extremely pleased with her new skill! My ears are much less pleased.

While I've been at slimming world Dh has been putting dd to bed and says it's been a nightmare. She's not made a peep since I got in!

Welcome @BackIntoTheSun this thread is a life saver for the exhausted

I went to meet colleagues for drinks this evening after they finished work as one was leaving. Took DS as DH was working. My lovely happy go to anyone baby turned into a clingy crying baby. The days of taking him out past bedtime are definitely over.

Now trying to get him to sleep so I can have some dinner. I am starving! I really really need a proper block of sleep tonight

So you know how when you're a mum, you're just not really allowed to be ill or at least, be ill and rest? I've not been well but have had to be on DS duty and have still been doing things for DD although DH did do bedtime yesterday after i had cooked the tea despite fighting urge to vomit and he always does DD bedtime anyway. So today, he was ill. Who do you think has spent all day resting and went to bed at 6.30? Leaving me (not fully recovered but faking it till I make it) to do nursery pick up, make tea, solo bath and bed time. Oh. And cleaned the toilet after he'd vommed and not cleaned up.

I know he's ill, I know it's not a competition, i know i have an EBF baby so only I will do. But jeez...what wouldn't I give to go to bed at 6 and have a free pass off all duties. Don't get me wrong, my DH is usually very supportive and pulls his weight. But I do feel resentful as I've had to get on with things, no choice, and am I going to get a good night's sleep to fight this thing off properly? Not a hope in hell!

Sorry for rant but I needed to and know you ladies will understand!

Welcome @backintothesun lots of support here, you are very much not alone and at least we can all try to laugh about it

We have suddenly had to switch from the snuzpod to the cot for tonight. He was playing in the cot this afternoon and knelt up then managed to almost stand up. So the mattress has been lowered and the cot is jammed in beside our bed now.

We had been having a nice routine of tea, bath, boob to sleep and bed the past week or so. Tonight though he hardly took any milk and then just wanted to crawl about my bed. So putting him down awake in his cot took ages. First he rolled about then he was on hands and knees looking at himself in the mirrored wardrobe doors (god how I hate those but we inherited them from the previous owners and haven't got around to replacing them) and then there was a lot of crying and crawling and he's ended up at the wrong end but he's finally asleep...

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I've had similar. I had a sick bug this week. I still had to sleep with dd (I didn't even bother putting her in the cot because I desperately needed sleep) but he said tonight 'I don't feel well so sorry I can't take her tonight' (he sometimes takes her on Fridays and Saturdays). I said 'well I didn't get a choice did I...'

I just broke. DS just won't settle so I thought I would leave him to cry with me sat next to him for 5 minutes and see what happens. At about 3 minutes he was sick and I've just calmed him down his little body was shaking so hard and I've ended up crying along side him. I feel awful I just really need the sleep

Oh @Meepmoop you poor thing :( I hope you can sleep with him next to you