The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

It really is @FrozenMargarita17, nothing really makes me proper angry but snoring definitely does

Anyone else with an 8mo who is waking up at least twice during the night, often for an hour long sleep refusal party? He's never slept through the night and I am just. Fucking. Knackered.

I've got a ten month old that does that @GimbleInTheWabe... for a while it was around 4 or 5 am but lately he's been mixing it up and having the party at 2.30am or 12.45am... never slept through the night even once. Our absolute best I think has been 8pm-4am and that's only happened a couple of times.

NinaMarieP GimbleInTheWabe

Yup, same here with a 9mo. And our best (the good old days) was 8-4. We foolishly assumed his sleep would just keep improving 🤣.
I got him down at 7.30 last night and his first wake was 9 o'feckingclock 😞.

My 10 month old still wakes at least twice in the night. Last night he was up laughing and clapping 2-4am.

I'm glad (and not glad obvs) that I'm not the only one.
I'm just in tears this morning. It's so relentless and as DS is bf it pretty much falls to me in the night to deal with it all. We've tried a bottle but he never settles with one. It feels like there's no end and I'll never sleep properly again, which of course j will. I hate being negative and I'm such a positive person usually but I just have no energy left.
My skin has gone to shit too, I have a rash and loads of breakouts and I can't function.

@GimbleInTheWabe You're definitely not alone! I'm in almost exactly the same position - bf, the bad skin (plus massive bags under eyes), moody etc. I have to go back to work tomorrow .

At the worst points I just keep telling myself it's just a phase. And it is, they will sleep better, and things will get easier. until then.

Dd has got chicken pox - goodbye sleep !!!

I go back to work on Wednesday @fallollop . I can just about cope with being up and down in the night when I know I can snatch half an hour to doze when he has his morning one but obviously can't do that when I'm working!

@NinaMarieP you have my sympathy, it's horrible isn't it? Unless a miracle happens tonight I'm pretty sure I'll be a zombie at work tomorrow. Is your work somewhere you can expect a bit of leniency?

Yup. My 7 month old still wakes more than twice. Right now it's about 4/5 times. We're co sleeping so it's hard to judge; on a 'good' night I don't really wake properly, just jam a boob in mouth and drift back to sleep.

He won't take a bottle so it's also down to me. Just spoke to SIL, her DS, who's the same age as my DS, is now fully ff after 6 months EBF, and is pretty much sleeping through .

I just don't know where to go with it. Feels like every day is in survival mode. Basically, I just don't have the energy to properly address it. We are stuck co sleeping till DH sorts the cot out (long story but something to do with a missing bolt ). He's still in my room. It's laughably bad really. I envy those people who have a routine that their baby falls in with.

DS has just started crawling so am hoping that will make a difference?!

Also over here with the bad skin and moodiness etc. Constantly feeling under the weather too.

So much sympathy on the going back to work and chicken pox...

Been away from Mumsnet for a few weeks, back at work full time and Ds (8.5 months) still isn't sleeping well. He doesn't settle in the evening and wakes 3-5 times once I've come to bed and we cosleep.

Finding it exhausting, although I like my job and I'm enjoying being round adults, I miss ds and I'm running around trying to get everything done all the time.

Sorry to see so many of us still here.

I'm shuffling back in to join you. I was part of the original gang, then DD started to sleep.

Not any more. She sleeps so lightly and is easily disturbed. And naps have just gone to pot. It's all perfectly timed with me feeling poorly too.

She's wide awake. She's itchy and had a temperature. Dh came to bed at 2am when she woke. Made me sooooo furious. I'm so tired :((

I'm pretty lucky that it's a low responsibility and low stress job @fallollop. I work in a library so I'm mostly dealing with customers but I have a small workload of tasks on top of that. If it's quiet and I've done my work I can just sit staring at my computer pretending to work (or I've been known to Mumsnet 😈)... though sometimes that induces the sleepy feeling more than actually doing stuff does.

Jesus f* Christ. I wish I could say I've been having such nice nights, sleeping, resting, dreaming, well, of possible, DD 9 months and it's just getting worse! On a good night I sleep a 2h block. That rarely happens I don't even know how come I can get put of bed on the morning, let alone do that duzens of time overnight. Its a torture! She was having separation anxiety, then was hit by a cold, 3 days of fever plus a bunch of cough and runny nose, now separation anxiety is through the roof! DH can't even bathe her, she will just cry and scream until I get there! She sees me she stops crying, she doesn't she screams. It's been so demanding. She used to fall asleep by herself in the evening and now she just cries and screams until I hold her what can I do??! I'm back to work next month! She will go to nursery! She can't even be with my husband how will she adapt to nursery?! I need help and HV cancelled last appointment :(

@GimbleInTheWabe I understand you so well! Seems like a never-ending nightmare! Of course it isn't but it really feels like it!

Hi @Bartos my dd is 11 months on Sunday. At 10 months when she finally learned to crawl she started to sleep longer slots (4-5-6 hours sometimes) and more recently until she got ill she started to sleep 8-4 or 8-5. Is your baby crawling yet?

@FrozenMargarita17 OMG that sounds like a sweet sweet dream!! No, she isn't. And it doesn't look like she is going to. Hates being on her tummy. Recently if we give minimal support she will stand up. She moves sited. I never crawled. She might be the same... I was. Stolid if she would crawl she would be more tired and sleep better. But she doesn't and she might not even do it. And I assume until she starts walking there's many months ahead

@Bartos my dd hated being on her belly. She also wasn't crawling or even showing signs really but in one single day she both sat herself up and then crawled. It still might come! I just wanted to give you a bit of hope xx

I've just been battling DS to get him asleep, feeding and rocking not happening. Put his projector on thought he was going nope fighting it. I had eyes closing but then would start crying. Moved him so he was just sat on my lap facing outwards and he's instantly asleep. Babies are weird.

I've found in the last month (taking out last week which was teething hell) DS is slowly starting to do a longer stretch at night. DS is 11 months next week.
Managed to get 8hours for the first time ever last night. Not expecting it tonight though.

I need to get DS to self settle but not sure how I'm going to do it!

@Meepmoop I keep telling myself it comes with age. Some days she will just roll over and go. Others she needs a hand on her face and lots of shushing. But she's getting there.

@FrozenMargarita17! Thank you! I appreciate every bit of hope since at the moment I feel pretty hopeless. Night is being terrible. I've tried co sleeping but it's not helping at all. I have her a bottle.and she actually took it all. Maybe I don't have enough milk? But she should be feeding less at night, not more... Back to the nursing chair. She will sleep on me but but keeps waking up in her cot or in my bed. I'm going to try and put her down.she should be full, she burped, just please l, PLEASE, let me get some sleep

I'm in the in tears bracket today. Not a proper sleep for ages. DD (18months) has been going to sleep at 11pm and waking at 5:20am.
Does anyone else find they use sugar and caffeine to stay awake and then feel worse?

@interuptus me! But the thought of coffee gets me through the day..