The non-sleepers are still not sleeping

[NinaMarieP]

New thread, guys!

Wow talk about a contortion!

Solidarity fistbump @meepmoop. DS just will not settle unless it's on me. I'm going to have to admit defeat aren't I? He's 7 bloody months not 7 weeks, this is fucking ridiculous!

I'm thinking of taking him to see the GP. I worry there's something stopping him from sleep because this just can't be normal? It might be developmental but he's not done anything new recently, can't even sit up!

That's better than mine, Mission. They sleep in the strangest positions!

Tonight has been shit, I'm dreading going back to work next week.

Bed just after 7. Woke at 8.
Woke at 9 and got fed.
Woke at 11.45.
Woke at 1.15 and screamed and was up for over half an hour and eventually fell asleep in my arms.
Woke at 2.50 and screamed again.
I think I dozed off for about half an hour between the last two, by the time I'd put him in his cot.

He's now had calpol and his dad's taking a turn at settling him. It's only been a week since teething episode #1 ended so I'm hoping this isn't #2 already, but this is way worse. Last time he woke a lot but went back to sleep pretty quickly.

How did the rest of the night go? We had 6 wake ups, I'm definitely going to be in zombie mode.

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs I think DS went through a phase where he would only sleep on me around that time. (Everything's a bit blurry) I ended up sleeping in the nursery chair a lot. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take him though and see what they say

@NinaMarieP that sounds like a rough night. It's horrible when they wake up screaming. Have you tried neurofen it's meant to be better for teeth?

He went back to sleep at 4 but still woke for the day before 7.

I'd heard that about neurofen but I didn't want to give it on an empty stomach and he was biting me during feeds yesterday and I just didn't want to be fighting with him and upsetting him more.

Omg @Missonhartbaby how funny is that.

You and @WhoAteAllthePercyPigs are right, sleep deprivation definitely takes its toll but it's so much deeper than that. And I lost a lot of trust in him when I had pnd and he just ignored me and left me alone to do it all myself. I have told him this and he is sorry I just think we need Extra help.

Oh yeah forgot to update about dd sleep. She took nearly 2 hours to go down (8ish but the time I got downstairs) but then did sleep through til about 1. Obviously this was the night I was up til midnight doing things. Then I took her in with me and it was a very disturbed night, ending in her waking up in an absolute tantrum at 6am. Not the best start!

to you all

DS has only now gone down for his morning nap, usually he's waking up from it. I've got group at 1 and need to fit in his lunch to... no idea what to do about his naps later. Do I keep him
Awake and put him to bed earlier or
let him nap and go bed later?

What do you do if his naps go wrong?

We have no "right" for naps. Our day entirely depends on how the night went/what time morning started, and so when his first nap falls. His first nap can be anything from 40 minutes to 2 hours but is usually (for the moment) between 1 hour and 1.5 hours. So we can be up at six with a nap between 9&11 or up at 7 with a nap between 8.30 and 9.30...

Just have to go with the flow and if I want to go out I have to try either putting him down at the earliest point I think he will sleep/leave early so he can nap in the pram/just go out and hope for the best.

I agree with Nina. I go with the flow re: naps too. Sometimes it feels like my son just woke up and I'm putting him down to sleep again but if he needs it, I won't try and resist him. I am enjoying the opportunities to sit and do nothing /go on my phone while they still arise.

Today's naps so far:
My son had a pre-dawn party then fell asleep again (or maybe I rocked.. Cant remember) til 730. Started to fall asleep while feeding around 930 but I needed to walk the dogs so put him in the carrier but he didn't settle fully and just have slept, half babbled.

Then time for sleep again around 1145. He's still asleep now.

He will likely have an afternoon nap too before bed time.

I kind of wish we did have a routine or schedule. But I think it would just stress me out when it inevitable went wrong! Plus we have activities at different times on different days and when I go back to work (next week ) I work different hours, no two weeks are the same in a four week pattern so a routine probably wouldn't work.

Thanks guys he's seemed sleepy so I'm trying him for a nap but won't force it if he doesn't want to.

I don't really have a set schedule for afternoon but morning has settles into a routine and he needs at least 2.5/3 hours awake time before bed.

Well last night is repeating itself and I really thought we had turned a corner.
DS was drooling a bit early so maybe we're getting another tooth but can't see anything.

I hope everyone else's evening is going better

Nap schedule? What's that?? We most definitely don't have one. It really depends on how he slept and when he wakes. Not sweating that one at all, it was the same with my daughter and nursery got her into a routine so reckon it'll be the same with DS.

Honestly, whether he naps well or doesn't seems to make not the blinders bit of difference to how he sleeps at night so I'm just rolling with it!

Sorry it's shaping up to be another bad one @meepmoop. Suspect it will be here too. DS on first waking and my jaw hurts as I had a tooth out this afternoon. 'Get rest and a good night's sleep' advised the dentist. Yes I did laugh out loud

Wow last night was the worst it's been in ages... no idea why she was just distressed and couldn't seem to settle. Maybe teething. Hoping tonight will be better

Hello hello! It's been a few months since I've been on MN.
Son is now 9 months and generally sleeping well.

Currently he goes to bed at 7pm ish with a bottle, then I dream feed him at around 11:30pm then he sleeps through until around 6:30am.

Has porridge for breakfast around 7am. The milk at 9am and naps for an hour or so.

Lunch 12. Naps around 1:30 ish for an hour.

Tea at 5pm

Milk and bed at 7pm

Repeat.

I can't get DS to stay asleep in his cot. He falls asleep I leave the room sit down and he's up again. It's driving me insane

I was the same @Meepmoop dd would fall asleep on me. I'd put her down and instantly she would roll and stand up. Argh!!

In the end I figured out that she was cold so I changed her and laid next to her and she went.

Dh in a bad mood now.

Ah I wonder if DS was cold to as he did stay down a bit longer when I closed the window.
Why is your DH in a bad mood?

That was a long night he just wouldn't stay asleep. I've had a couple of hours but but feel exhausted. I thought we were over this

If I don't count the wake ups before I went to bed, DS only woke at 11 and 2 . I count that as a good night! I needed it as I took him with me to our annual team building day today.

Sorry to hear you had a bad night meepmoop hope it was a one off

I've started to do that @tealandteal also if the wake ups are close together it's 1 to!

I don't think it's a one off sadly. DS is now full of cold and angry. Naps have been short and I'm currently trying to get him to sleep as he went nuclear at my DM earlier when I was trying to have my hair cut by our hairdresser.

We're on 45 minute wake ups. It's going to be torture tonight.

I wish sleep deprivation didn't make me such a see you next Tuesday. My first words to the Oh this morning was SHhHh! Because I'd just got the baby to sleep when they came in to say hello. I feel so bad.

When is this going to get easier? Anyone knowwww? It must do if you choose to have another.

It will definitely get better but when I can't tell you! I'm sure your OH understands.

My DH is probably covered in bruises from last night, he was snoring so loud when i eventually got into bed at 3!

@Meepmoop oh the snoring! It's almost obnoxious in the face of your tiredness isn't it!