The great non-sleepers - the sequel

[Jellybean2017]

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Get this.
Dh is out tonight. Dd (5 yo) in bed at 7pm. She normally plays for a bit then drifts off to sleep. I don't mind as long as she's quiet and in her bed.
I go to my room with ds. Hoping to put him to bed then check back on dd. He takes a little longer, he's quite unsettled but I eventually get him down long enough for me to leave the room and check on dd. She's not there. Room is empty. Bathroom is empty. The light is on downstairs so I follow the trail. Lounge is empty.

She's in the kitchen, stood on a bloody stool helping herself to the bloody Christmas chocolates. Ffs. She's "hungry" apparently. Ffs. I get her back in bed and ds kicks off (again). Sigh.

I've also had to steal dds Ewan as ds' Ewan failed on me last night and I don't have any AAA batteries in the house. I'll get some tomorrow. At least we've got some EBLL tonight.

Bless her. If I asked dd if I could use Ewan, it's be a swift 'no'.
If I ask her if Ds can have Ewan for tonight she will happily oblige. Good job I know this so I can work the system 👌

Who has snow? It's forecast tonight.

Dd is asleep. Phew. One down. One to go.
Ds is asleep and looks settled, but he's started to startle again and really violently. Spooks the shit out of both of us. I just want to keep an eye on him a little longer before I settle down myself.

@meepmoop
It’s so cute when they are all smiley... but sometimes when she wakes up at 3am and looks up at me with her big brown eyes wide open at me and smiles.... I melt and at the same time it strikes dread into my heart! I know she is wide awake and planning to stay that way...
Hope everyone has a better night...

We had a long day and dd fell asleep at 6.20. I think we're in for a rough night.

@hashtagtired
Good luck!
Your story on DD has reminded me. I used to be a sleep walker (and still very very occasionally do it). Mum often found the bed empty and then found me wandering around the house fast asleep; sometimes in the kitchen or at my desk...,they took to locking the front door from the inside so I couldn’t get out...

@HashtagTired I would like some Christmas chocolates too please!!
good luck getting them both to sleep

ds has had his evening bottle and dh has retreated back downstairs whilst ds now has a fight with my nipple. ouch. hopefully he hurrys up and passes out soon. it's been a long day and I'm tired. in fact so is ds. if only he realised we would all be happier if her slept more.

@hashtagtired you make me laugh! That is something I can well imagine my DD doing on a few years. Hope she didn't scoff too much choc?? My DD is now well aware of where the snack cupboard is and if either of us even so much as open it she's at our feet like a dog begging for scraps!

Lol @otherendofthesockportal, hope your DH survives the night!!

@meepmoop ha indeed, DS was giving me the cute eyes/smile thing at 3am. Cute but not as cute as your sleeping baby face DS!

Not sure what we're in for tonight. I've sort of got a bit of a daytime nap routine going on - two hours in the morning and afternoon and then a power nap around 6 (which allows me to have my tea in peace) It's all very loose but it does feel like I have a bit of control of the situation!

Snow here and it's a bloody pain. Very pretty though. I managed to battle the blizzard to get to the doctor's surgery today for my smear test. Only to be told it can't take place till 12 weeks post birth - despite the GP telling me to get it booked 'ASAP'! So had to schlep back with DS and skidded a few times on the road. Going to cancel all plans for tomorrow and not leave the house...

2 hours and plenty of screaming/tears later and DS has just fallen asleep...
I must admit I had some tears of my own as well. It's just so tiring and I've not had the best start to the year.

meepmoop it's so hard when they get that upset. I hope you're having some peaceful sleep now.

Second wake up here. Woke just as I was drifting to sleep torture took over half an hour and a feed to resettle. Now just woke me again by crying out, writhing around. I wish I knew why he does this, doesnt seem to be wind or hunger, it's so frustrating not knowing what's up how to stop it He's gone quiet for now..... Here's hoping it'll stay that way til next feed.

Launched into full blown crying just as I was starting to drift off again

Gave him his dummy. Eyes are closed and he's trying to sleep but something's distressing him. He'll settle for a minute then start crying out again. Going to be a loooong night.

@xxrealistmumxx I've got the same problem here. Ds is lifting both legs up to 90° angle then smacking them down again quite forcefully. All with his eyes closed, occasional fart and then whimper. I'd leave him to it as he often goes back to sleep but the whimpers turn into yells and yelps and he'll wake dd. And I could do without that.
As soon as I pick him up he's asleep again so I don't really know what to do. This cannot be my night tonight. Please let this not be my night tonight 🙏

He's self settling at least. I have resisted picking him up and he's gone back to sleep.

Ssshhhh everyone.

Nobody move.

Feed #1 here after 2 hrs and 35 minutes sleep. Went to baby massage and thought we were off to a good start as DS had a good,feed,before we left the house and when we got there he was okay looking around. We’re due to start and he des a massive loud poo. Once changed he wants feeding and falls asleep... we’ve got three sessions left but seriously? I don’t know what it is, maybe the time as he often has a sleep at 2.30 pm? Anyway if nothing else it was good to get out and meet with other mums.
Dp annoyed me tonight as it’s second day in a row that he’s said “so the tongue tie cut didn’t work then?” As in I told you so. He wasn’t convinced at first when I mentioned it as an option but agreed it might be worth having it checked and then done so we did, but no the has been no improvement in his latch or his feeding in general and we had it done last Thursday. I’ve booked in with osteopath on Friday (DS has a tight jaw apparently) again he’s agreed but keeps hinting he doesn’t believe in it. Arg.. I get these things cost a lot of money and I really hope we will see some improvement but we won’t know unless we give it a go... sorry for rant....

Visiting work today.

Oh hashtagtired your shush nobody move really made me chuckle! I'm always thinking that because just as I get one settled the other kicks off or DH starts flipping around like a dying fish.

Shakira I know a few people who swear by baby osteopathy, I'd tend to agree, it's worth a shot.

In big news I went out for a curry with friends, only to the curry house two minutes walk from home so I could get back if DS2 needed a random feed but I was out out with my friends, I even had a beer! DH had to resettle DS2 a couple of times but that gave me a three hour stretch between bedtime and first feed. Sadly it's all gone a bit tiits up now as DS1 woke and started screaming because one of his toys wasn't in his room. Toy has-been retrieved, wee done, stories read but he was too awake and upset to go back to sleep and that all woke up DS2 who decided he needed feed no.3 early. We have some progress though, DH has been allowed to read him a story, but has also just allowed him into our bed again grrrrr. We have had to bribe him back to his own bed using rice cakes. There's a sleep behaviour clinic next week which I will go to to try and work out what the hell to do with DS1 and all this waking. Either way, a bit of progress on both counts and DH is being helpful.

Hahaha I just saw autocorrect changed "sakura* to Shakira!

The 90 degree leg lift, @HashtagTired what the fuck is that all about!? Putting my LO to sleep on his side has mostly resolved that problem, though if he squirms too much he ends up on his back and can do it again.

Baby -
"I was having a nice sleep and now for no reason at all I am awake. Shall I just lie here, all comfy and cosy and drift off to sleep again? NO! I shall rage rage that I am awake! I shall slam my heels into the mattress as hard as ever I can, that will help! What? It didn't help? I'm even MORE awake now? MUUUUMMMMYYYY I'M AWAKE HELP ME!"

My baby has been swapped with an impostor I swear. Slept 8.30 to 3.30 tonight without stirring.

Yesterday he did 9-2.30 and 3.30-7.

He's not my baby!?

Yes. Frying fish. Good analogy. I'll take that.

Frying Fish.

He's doing it again. This time all snotty too and gooey in the nostrils.

I looked out of the window to see if I could see snow. But I could only see me. They turn off the streetlights here so it's literally pitch black

Just remembered a bit of my dream. I was chatting to the queen in a meeting at work. I was arranging a meeting with someone and she wanted to join in. She's a bit nosey, isn't she!

I just read through some of this thread and it made me cry... Cry for godsake!
DD3 Is 15months and has never slept through the night. Wakes between 4-10 times a night. Sometimes I can get her back to sleep in a few minutes sometimes it's hours.
I am so exhausted. I also have a 4 year old DD and a 3 year old DS.

They were both great sleepers. What am I doing wrong...?

You all sound sleep deprived but happy! Can I join you?

The house is finally quiet. She is definitely asleep...but now I am wide awake!

Typical!

@hashtagtired
Mine does the same things with the 90 degree leg raise. She’s currently squirming away too and I can tell about to start yelling. I don’t know.
It all went so well last night and now it’s gone to pot. She was up at 330, had a feed and I thought was about to go back to sleep. She did a poo instead and is now bloody wide awake. Again tempted to put her in sling and make a cup of tea, at least I’m getting something done then but I don’t want to make starting the day at 4am a regular thing.

@catscatsandmorecats
Well done on getting out of the house and getting a bit of normality back. I often used to wonder what I did with all my spare time when I didn’t have kids and then it comes back to me as distant memory... I used to go out with adults and have fun. Hope the night gets better

@ninamarie
Long may it continue! Mine had a good night last night but back to the usual shit tonight sigh. Oh well. At least it’s moving in the right direction..,

I settled her again and tip toed away. I swear I could not have been more fucking careful if there was an undetonated nuclear bomb in the cot but she STILL bloody woke up. Cup of tea anyone?

OH most unhelpful this evening.

After an awful night's sleep on Monday, I was really hoping for an early night. LO obliged by comfort sucking for 2 hours and kicking off every time I tried to take her off.

Asked OH to take her so I could have a short nap but he insisted on trying to put her in her cot each time she settled in his arms. After 5 minutes, she'd wake up crying, waking me up. When I asked him to come back and take her the second time, he just rocked her in the cot, increasingly vigorously, which upset me as it became far too rough (although it won't have been causing her any harm).

When LO woke up again, I gave up on OH's help and am now on feed no. 3 after we both finally went down at midnight.

I love him dearly but he doesn't understand the sleep deprivation. He thinks he's tired because he has to resettle DD1 once a night.

Good morning all!

Welcome @lovelylovelyladies - we're the club no one wants to join but the banter is good Sorry to hear about your bad sleeper -bad luck that it's your third and your first experience of a sleep thief! I'm sure you know you're not doing anything wrong....every baby is different and some just...don't sleep!

Ha ha @hashtagtired I know what you mean about nobody move - I fell asleep in the most awkward position earlier kinda hanging over the sleepyhead propped up against pillows as I didn't want to jinx it by rearranging myself!

I dreamt that I was in New York with DH. We were on a massive rollercoaster and I dropped my kindle. I was very upset and DH unsympathetic. What could it mean??

@cats nice one on getting out! Sometimes you just need to be reminded that you can still function as an adult and not just a parent. I'm looking forward to my birthday in July - my parents are coming up to babysit so me and DH are going out for the night! I know it's a long while off but don't think I'll be ready to have a child free evening until then

Ok night here. DS slept hour hours till 1.45, then another two after that. Not bad work. He's now restless but DH is working from home today so I'm tempted to take DS through soon...

Morning gang
How is everyone?

I had dramatic day yesterday so thing that had been hanging over me the last 3months of pregnancy , the labour , preventing me from being 100% focussed on DS and enjoying our first xmas together as a family.... I'd had a scare in pregnancy due to a bleed it turned out they thought I had a polyp which couldn't be assessed properly at the time to rule it out being cancerous

They wanted to see me 6 wks post partum and put me on a speed things up path of stretch and sweeps and booked induction so not to have to wait longer than necessary.

Luckily after 2nd SS DS was ready to arrive so no induction needed phew!

Having that hanging over me sucked it had changed my personality and controlled my emotions for months.

Yesterday was my appointment with the consultant and happy to say I got a clean bill of health the relief that flooded over me was amazing I now feel I can get on track to putting all my energy into bring a good mum and wife.