The great non-sleepers - the sequel

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New thread!

Thank you everyone for your messages.

I've also lost count of how many wake ups I've had but DS did give me a 3 hour stretch so hopefully that's enough.

So sorry for your loss @meepmoop. Very sad news

DS slept through! From 8pm till now!!! Best night of sleep I've had in ages!!

Er no. He didn't. But I wanted to write it down just to see what it felt like! Bad night usual shite. And he's been awake for the day since 530. Now wriggling and crying and won't even just lie still. Have to get up at 8 with DD so given up on sleep. He'll be grumpy as he obviously needs this sleep. He can fight sleep like a pro - I've no idea why. We're not even in a leap or a regression so god knows how much worse it's going to get!

And I've got a busy day ahead. Ho hum.

Welcome @podgebod! Another one with an older DC. She's sleeping well but I wish I had more energy for her. Life is kind of relentless with two isn't it!

Meepmoop Sorry for your loss

Crap night here overall despite DD doing 3 hrs in the cot to start with. Then, she was up every hour or 2
And I have terrible lower back pain 😭

It's not me with the sleep problems this morning. OH overslept by 1hr20 and has missed the school bus for DSS. This means he now has to do a 2 hour, 55 mile round school run for his two DSC.

I do feel for him but my sympathy is limited given all the sleep he had last night!

Duvet day here 🙈 weather is awful and I am exhausted! Maybe DS will allow me a nap! DH won't be home til after bedtime tonight so it's going to be a looooooong day!

@Whoateallthepercypigs I got so excited and jealous reading that your DS slept through, maybe it will be for real tonight?! Here's hoping!

@zampa I did have to smile at your DH overstepping... Oh how we all long to oversleep haha!

Overstepping = oversleeping haha

@zampa your oh overseeing made me chuckle too. oh the little things!!!

I'm enjoying the typos for oversleeping, I think it shows how we would all love to oversleep.

I just wish it wasn't so dark in the mornings, it really makes me struggle

didn't even realise my typo too. must be a dirty word!!!

Haha. @Meepmoop I think our autocorrect must assume we don't mean oversleeping because we just wouldn't be doing that!

Ds slept from 11pm to 4am. (Well, 3:50 but I'm rounding). That's pretty awesome. Happy with that. Then hourly after that. I can deal with the hourly to be honest because if I regularly get a good stretch of sleep like that I'd be be happy to just get up and start the day at 5/6am. I think that's why he doesn't settle again is because it's more of a nap than sleep.

So today's the day I leave my little guy for an hour Eek. Well like I posted earlier, more like 5 mins by the time I've let him go to the time I want to pick him up!
Taking gym stuff and going to do some cardio. After all those cookies, the Stollen and other delicious food crap I've eaten, I surely need it!

Nothing like starting the day at 3am with a nice cup of tea.

DH woke up at 10am (he is off work for a few weeks) and complained I wasn't paying him enough attention (i.e. sex). It's a good thing there wasn't a spade to hand.

@NinaMarieP
I've been thinking about DH in the middle of the night and what to do. I organised it into three things

1. DH has had no role model for parenthood. He was sent to boarding school at 7. His father tells me the mother's place is in the home. His mother told me that after 7pm for her was G&T time and she never went upstairs after that if the babies were crying. They are divorced.

1. DH has a G&T and 3-4 glasses/a bottle of wine most nights (this is a whole different issue which I'm not even going to get into here). It means he CANT wake up at night even if he tries (and cosleeping is obviously not an option). On the few occasions I did get him, he had to sleep till 2pm the next day. He usually helps with DD1 for a couple of hours during the day and DD1 is an overactive toddler so that really really helps me as I can shower/laundry/eat/wash bottles etc during the time with the baby in a sling. So I decide to rather let him sleep.

1. I've forgotten what no3 was. Oh yes, he is a d1ck when he hasn't slept. It's like man flu. He's soooo tired. He can't cope. How will he live (all day) because he woke up at 7am instead of 10am. I can't take it

And I'm sorry for the rant. Thank you wonderful ladies for listening to me as I know everyone has their own problems....

I like this idea of a tv club. Any suggestions as to watch next? After Peaky Blinders?

I'm going to watch a month's worth of East Enders when I am back in the UK
It will probably take me another 2 months to do it, considering how absorbing DD is.

We're off to see the radiologist. Laters!

DS and I stayed in bed until 10 am as DS didn’t do his “usual” (ish) 3 hours stretch... by 4 am I had only had 1 hr 15 minutes... then had an hour on sofa bed, dp got up at 5.30 and we returned to the bedroom, SS slept an hour in his cot and then he joined me in our bed feeding/sleeping, so in total nearly got 5 hours broken sleep which means I can function! The weather is rubbish so we are staying inside today. I’ve got a friend coming to meet my DS this afternoon.
Hey a tv club sounds great👍 Did anyone watch Motherland?

@Sakura03 I watched motherland and loved it!

DD has started to sleep better a night, day time sleep is still rubbish and she is awake far too much for a baby of her age, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

I'm still not sleeping at night, my bladder is broken, which meant o only got just over 3 hours of sleep last night :(

@theotherendofthesockportal I know that feeling. I try to give DS opportunity to sleep every 90 mins or so (feed, push in pram, bounce) but doesn't always work and if it does he rarely naps for more than 35 minutes. Also because he will only sleep beside me I'm having to go to bed earlier and earlier. Just wish I could have an hour in the evening to catch up with DH and enjoy my dinner 🙈

Narrowly avoided a jumperoo jumperPOO incident this morning. Luckily I intercepted quickly and removed him before it went all up his back 🙈

Miserable day here. I had a shower and put my pj's and dressing gown back on as I don't intend to venture out.

@hashtagtired hope DS got on OK in creche! And @AMagdalena hope appointment goes well today.

Sorry to hear about your loss, meepmoop

I've had a horrible virus these past couple of days. Was hoping to get additional rest in as next weekend DH is away and it's always tough going with all three on my own. I can't stop thinking about the day I stop breastfeeding and can escape for a weekend!!

ninap hope you've managed to talk to dp. Echoing what everyone has said. Being a mum is tough. Being a mum with a baby who doesn't sleep well is hell. I don't think anyone ever fully gets it unless they have to go through it. As this is our third, and second terrible sleeper, I've insisted DH takes some nights on so he has an idea what it's like. Now he has nothing but compassion and admiration for me though we still snipe at each other cos that's what happens with sleep deprivation

I know it's not the answer for everyone but I started on anti depressants because my mood was so up and down and I felt like I was doing such a shit job. They've made the world of difference.

Also interested in TV club. So far this mat leave I've rewatched all of breaking bad, made it half way through madmen, binged watched all of atypical and started on stranger things. I've honestly never watched so much TV! It's great

Can't do anything scary / creepy though as my mind spins out with sleep deprivation!

@utterlyconfused from everything you've said, a good long talk with your DH sounds well in order. Seems to me he needs to adjust and make some sacrifices to help you, doesn't sound like he had had the best role models but this is about him as a parent! Good luck.

@hashtagtired enjoy your work out! Aure DD will be totally fine. I'm very envious - desperate to get back into some form of cardio but not sure when I'd do it and I'm way too tired. I feel so out of shape though. Caught sight of myself in the full length mirror and I'm a fucking mess. Face like a crumpled old bag, leggings with holes in them and a dress that's too old to be worn really but it's one of the few things I have with feeding access.

Just back from a full morning. Went to an imaginative play place which was brilliant for DD - it has a mini shop, cafe, hair salon and lots of fancy dress and much more! Then went to pizza hut with a friend and her kid. DD is normally pretty well behaved eating out but today she had the devil in her, backhanded her milk all over me, then her ice team bowl and tried to shove her pizza off the table! On the long drive home DS wailed the entire time. Home and now feeding him while still in my dairy soaked clothes. DD napping thank gooddness. Life with two is...interesting!

Sorry @hashtagtired I meant your DS obviously - typing whilst feeding!

Sorry @88mph just seen your post - this thread moves fast! Sympathy on the 18 month non sleeper. My DD now 2.6 didn't really sleep well till she turned 2. 18 months was a particularly shit time as I really thought it should be better by then! Hang on in there, it will get better. I'm just super grateful that DD is sleeping now, spent my pregnancy worrying about how to deal with two sleep thieves!

After DS1'S sleep theivery, DS2 didn't really settle well for the rest of the night, only one more feed but had to resettle him a few times so not much sleep going on. DH was supposed to go on a bike ride this morning but instead got both boys up and did the nursery run, leaving me in bed til 9 when DS2 needed a feed. Being able to slowly wake up with the light was so nice! Spade well avoided there DH 😘. Dpony decided to get in on the action this morning though as she'd escaped so I had to rush to her as soon as I was dressed to get her back in the right field - no leisurely breakfast and coffee before DS2'S swimming annoyingly.

@whoateallthepercypigs I have had the opposite, DS1 has been an amazing sleeper until DS2 came along now he can't get himself off to sleep, comes into our bed,wakes for hours in the night. This too shall pass i hope. Your post this morning did make me chuckle.

@xxrealistmumxx I can't cope with scary stuff either! I have to watch something 'normal' afterwards to stop myself having nightmares. And couldn't stop at the end of a stranger things episode, I had to pause half way or I'd go insane. DH got very annoyed with this.

@amagdalena - hope the scan is all ok

Oooh, and we loved motherland! Because DH runs his own business he (very occasionally) has one of the boys during the day - we joke about him being like the SAHD on there

Thanks for the messages.

The scans showed nothing 'scary'. Possible DD had a UTI as some residue was found on one of her kidneys. It was never picked up, but again, the system here differs from that in the UK. Every child sees a paediatrician regularly which is not the norm in the UK.
So, the not-so-lovely poos remain a mystery. At least we know the ventouse caused her no harm.

catscatsandmorecats not sure if I can continue with stranger things, Motherland is much easier on my mind!

I can recommend Atypical. Watched the whole season in one and a half days

catscatsandmorecats not sure if I can continue with stranger things, Motherland is much easier on my mind!

I can recommend Atypical. Watched the whole season in one and a half days