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The great non-sleepers - the sequel

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Jellybean2017 · 31/12/2017 09:07

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Jellybean2017 · 08/01/2018 19:36

We didn't make it to baby group but had a long walk and DS slept in the pram for 30 minutes! Back in bed now 🙈 DS has been miserable today. Really wouldn't be surprised to see a tooth soon!

I stopped bf for a week but personally found ff much more of a hassle. Although there was one blissful night DH did all feeds and I got six hours sleep. I really missed breastfeeding though and once tongue tie was sorted it soon stopped being painful. Luckily I was able to get my supply back again. You need to gradually drop the feeds if you decide to stop, and pump to reduce discomfort. I think kellymom website has some information... Also welcome to the group! 😊

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Jellybean2017 · 08/01/2018 19:39

Glad the results were clear @AMagdalena. Still a mystery then 💩

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Meepmoop · 08/01/2018 20:01

How's everyone's evening going. DS is screaming and screaming. I'm predicting a long night.

Glad the test were clear @AMagdalena

NinaMarieP · 08/01/2018 20:18

Six poos and counting! He's a lot more settled now though so I'm just waiting on him getting hungry so I can feed him, put him to bed and go to bed myself 😴😴😴

Meepmoop · 08/01/2018 20:29

NinaMarieP I think you may win the number of poos in a day. We're behind at 2

NinaMarieP · 08/01/2018 20:30

Not a prize I'm glad to win 😂 but at least my OH was home to change the last one. So I "only" had to deal with 5!

UtterlyConfused111 · 08/01/2018 20:34

Well there is a DH around but because of his work/travelling he can’t really do nights, and well - let’s just say he’s not really around in any useful way. Just me for the nights. I think the sleep deprivation is making me a bit demented.
DD2 is 15 weeks, but I’m back at work soon and I can’t face the thought of pumping and all this faff at work.
I have tried the dummy; but she is quite upset I’m taking away her boob from her! I don’t know what to do....
She is asleep now... thank god...Going to watch an episode of black mirror and ponder...

sleepycat13 · 08/01/2018 21:02

@UtterlyConfused111 my ds is nearly 15 weeks too. I thought i was coping really well with the sleep deprivation up until this week. have cried every day for the last week at the smallest of things and that's really not like me. it has been a particularly hard week but even still can't say the sleep has been that much worse that it always has. maybe it's a cumulative effect kicking in??
ds just passed out in dh whilst he was giving him his evening bottle which never happens. thought I was in for an early night but he woke as he tried to carrying him up the stairs. sat here now feeding ds on the boob and praying for a kind night.

Catscatsandmorecats · 08/01/2018 21:08

Hi @utterlyconfused111 - another early January birthday, do you ever just want to ignore it as organising something so soon after Christmas is a bit of a faff?

My DH also travels/drives a lot for work so I don't ask for help overnight either, it's tough but I'd rather he was safe driving.

DS1 has promised he'll stay in his own bed tonight and has been bribed with the prospect of two star stickers on his star chart. We shall see. DS2 wouldn't even feed until I'd put some anbesol on his gums, he's definitely teething. We have finally succeeded in having the house warm but not like a sauna, we'll see if that helps.

lydiangel83 · 08/01/2018 21:10

@Meepmoop can I ask what sort of routine you have?

Our 10 wk old DD has no routine as such, trying to work out a bedtime routine that fits around DH work times, me wanting to go to bed and not have to wake up multiple times in the night to feed her. Utopia???

actino · 08/01/2018 21:20

As usual, Dd started her scream fest at 2030 and is still going strong. We can't do much to help the poor girl, but we've started singing and dancing around with her which keeps our spirits up (after extensive winding).

She gets her first jags tomorrow, poor thing.

actino · 08/01/2018 21:37

Got her calmed down with a dummy and a few lullabies & poems :)

I feel oddly jealous of the dummy, like I'd rather her be comfort sucking from me. But my boobs need a break every now and then.

Zampa · 08/01/2018 22:05

How did you get your lo to take a dummy? DD2 not remotely interested but as per @actino my boobs need a break from the comfort sucking!

actino · 08/01/2018 22:22

@Zampa, just luck. We've tried a few times before and she's not been into it. She used it for about 30 mins, then had another screaming session and is now on the boob.

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Zampa · 08/01/2018 22:58

Good point about the teat shape. DD1 has a million different dummies so will try all the various shapes. Thanks.

Nicellen · 08/01/2018 23:02

Need help. Little one has brought up his last two FF. he hasn't pooped for nearly 3 days. I was at GP with him last week due to this and they wasn't massively concerned. Advised half oz prune juice with half oz boiled water morning and night till he went- we did that last week and he started going once a day. I've tried the prune juice today and nothing apart from full feeds being brought back up. Should I be worried tonight? Do I need to take him anywhere or contact anyone?

theotherendofthesockportal · 08/01/2018 23:22

DD has catnapped all though today, she went to sleep at 9pm. I'm wishing she will sleep through, but the reality is that she will probably awaken at stupid o'clock and I'm dreading it.

HashtagTired · 09/01/2018 00:34

@actino I suppose there is a convenience about just getting out once, rather than doing the school run, going home and then going out again at 11am, for example. For me, the classes I struggle with are the ones that start around 2pm as I need to be back at school pick up at 3:30 and I just can't get there in time.

@Meepmoop I felt like superwoman the other evening when I managed to shower my and dd, wash her hair (I need a medal for doing this alone!) and then bathing ds all within 30 mins. I'm adding that to my CV. Genuine achievement!

@AMagdalena so pleased about the poo results. You must be relieved that it's all clear. But frustrating you still don't have answers.

@Zampa some babies just aren't interested in the dummy.

@Nicellen Is your dc bf, ff or combi fed? My ds used to go about once a week, maybe longer. He's more regular these days. How old is your dc?

HashtagTired · 09/01/2018 00:39

Feed #1 here
Dh brought ds up at midnight on the dot. Cheeky sod. He's obviously been counting down the minutes! But at least it wasn't a minute before!

Ds seems restless. Have fed him and put him down once already but he's just not having it so he's back on the boob again now.

DD's after school play date went well I think. More exhausting than I thought it would be but everyone seemed happy so that's all I could ask for. Hoping dd's friend told her mum good things!!

Mummy's and buggy's fit club starts again tomorrow morning. Dd is in breakfast club so I can get there for the 9am start. It's outside for class in a park so need to wrap us both up warm. Not exactly encouraging to get out of bed for but I'll feel better for it after going. I might take ds swimming afterwards too.
I spent much of yesterday (Monday) at home so I need to get out today.
I got him a swim vest in the sale too, so he can try that out tomorrow!

Nicellen · 09/01/2018 00:45

@HashtagTired he's FF. He's 5 weeks 4 days.

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 09/01/2018 02:09

HI everyone. Lots to catch up on, gosh this thread moves fast!

@nicellen maybe call your HV tomorrow if no movement? They do go through blockages from time to time at such a young age but if his feeds are coming up its prob best to just seek advice.

@Zampa ha if you solve the dummy conundrum then let me know! DD didn't take one and DS, after an initial period of taking it, now rejects the dummy. Tbh I get annoyed when I see advice on here 'just give a dummy!' like it's that simple.

I visited a friend today whose DS is three weeks older than mine. She's got into a routine, and in between feeds her DS is pretty settled - he takes a dummy. It made me feel a bit of a failure - DS is almost 10 weeks and sleep hasn't improved at all, and he gets so upset between feeds and sleep, he only has limited periods of being calm and smiley. All the feelings of doubt in my parenting ability thst I had when DD wouldn't sleep are rushing back. I know that it's silly because all DC are different but it's hard not to feEl like this. I also feel resentful that I seem to produce sleep thieves whilst others just push out good little sleepers and have no issues with routines or constant crying. I know, I know...Nothing is ever as it seems!

Bad night here. DS was very unsettled, was awake from 6 till 10.30. Then awake again at 1 and still awake now. He has his first jabs tomorrow (waves to @actino) so am not looking forward to that.

lydiangel83 · 09/01/2018 02:13

@WhoAteAllthePercyPigs your description of children sounds exactly like mine! My DD is 10 wks today/ tomorrow (Tuesday!) and I feel like we have very little routine and minimal smiley period between crying and feeding. Some days (often) I cannot put her down at all without her crying. It's exhausting :(

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 09/01/2018 02:22

@AMagdalena that's good the tests were clear but I guess the mystery remains, what will they try next?

Those of you who combi feed. I give DS a bottle at the start of the night. Around 8pm. Up till recently he would guzzle it down. But past few days he's taken about an ounce and then fusses like mad, clearly isn't happy taking it. Does this mean he's going off the bottle or off formula, the more he gets used to s breastfed diet? Selfishly I'm so reluctant to stop - DD never took a bottle and I really want DS to so we have that option as I want to stop breastfeeding at 6 months. But, I also don't want to force him to take it if he's not happy! Oh and I'm not great at expressing milk -;and he never seems to like it from a bottle - although guess I could persevere?

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 09/01/2018 02:24

Thanks @lydiaangel. It's just comforting knowing Im not alone in this! Do you did evenings are the worst time? DS will nap from about 5 till 6 and then he's just so out of sorts. End up constantly feeding him, but I don't always think hunger is the issue.

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