Anyone want to accompany me while i sleep train DD?

[MrsKoala]

I am starting to sleep train 13mo DD tonight. She has been a terrible sleeper since birth and always co-slept on the boob. I had a consultation with a sleep expert today who has talked me thru a gentle process of sleep training.

I am starting tonight as DH is away for a week from next Thursday, so i want it in place for then. DH is not particularly supportive because he hates them crying (and i love it obviously ) so it would be great if there was someone who was doing theirs at the same time for a mutual support group!

I've had a few nights that have gone backwards a bit but DS has been ill so I'll let him off. The night before last he was awake from about 4am and after trying to settle lots, I ended up feeding him and he went back to sleep. Not sure if he was waking out of hunger.
Last night he woke about 5.30 and I settled him twice before he was up again at 6.45.
From what I've read, I might need to shorten his morning nap a bit to avoid the early waking. Anyone have experience of that?
He's got his last nursery settling session tomorrow before going all day on Thurs and Fri. Nervous is an understatement!!

Happy new year! Back to work for me today and the sleep training isn't going well either. We seem to have got stuck in the cuddling to sleep again. It was ok to start with and he was sleeping until at least 4. Last two nights he's been up at 11/12ish and will not settle. I've ended up cosleeping both nights and he's taken so long to settle both times. He's having lots of dirty nappies and seems to have an upset stomach but still has a good appetite. I felt like were making good progress and am now feeling sorry for myself. I don't want to be continually exhausted!

Good luck with the potty training Mrs K. Good luck with the sleep everyone else!

How is it going everyone?

I have decided to start sleep training DD in the night tonight. My parents are having the boys tomo night and i have the Nanny this afternoon/bedtime so i think if i go to bed at 8pm tonight and get a few hours before she starts waking then i should be able to do the nights. DH has done all night wakings with her for the past few days so i am well rested. Then i can nap tomo and i'll just have her to deal with in the night.

Potty training was a disaster for the 5th time. S we are giving up till half term.

We made huge progress during the hols but staying away from home and illness has set us back. I feel like we have to start all over again. Only thing we have managed is to night wean but we're back to cuddling to sleep and cosleeping after night wakings. I feel exhausted and gutted that we've let it slide again!

Good luck tonight Mrs K

DS has been waking early for the last week and it's taken a few tries to settle him but does eventually go back to sleep.
He's had his first 2 days at nursery and he didn't nap much there - only for 30/45 mins at a time. Which I guessed would happen. He has slept ok during the night obviously until he's up at 5am.
Yesterday nursery let him nap for 45 mins at lunch time instead of the afternoon, meaning he hasn't slept from 12.45- 6.30! This morning he is like a zombie!!

Hi!
So I've been working on getting her to sleep in her cot for the first part of the night over Christmas - but it's been challenging as we've been away.
Last night was the first night of no milk and full on sleep training.
We had 4 wake ups (2 were pretty horrendous ) but no milk. Then we caved at 530 am and she came in with me and had boobie. Promptly slept for 3.5 hours.
We've kept it up for nap- 35 mins and 2 huge poops! More complaining than crying though.
I'm finding it a real challenge as I don't really agree with Cio. We're staying with her and comforting her with words and cuddles- but I still feel awful. I do appreciate she'll feel so much better for a full nights sleep (as will I! )

How did it go MrsK?

DD has been so good since we got home from the PILs. The first night she woke twice and we had to do 5 mins of CC but since then she's been great and last night she slept 7.30pm-6am without waking up! Obviously I had a terrible sleep 😂 DP is happy about the pregnancy which is wonderful!

Not great really. She was up Friday night 1.30-4am (she has another snotty nose and conjunctivitis again) then DS2 woke up with a hoarse cough at 5am. Last night DD went down really well at 7 but woke quite a few times and was up at 5.30 for a feed. DS2 has a temp and hasn't eaten or drank a thing since 2pm yesterday. Even chocolate cookies and coke aren't tempting him! DS1 is also acting really strangely and keeps hiding under the sofa - which he does when he isn't feeling well.

Winter can just fuck off now!!

Fanny - glad DH is happy re the pregnancy.

Drinkyourmilk - You know there is a difference between CIO and CC? CIO is not the same as letting dc cry for a short period then soothing them. The methods most of us are doing on here are extremely gentle versions of CC and gradual retreat. No one is doing CIO as far as i'm aware.

Disaster! We've gone backwards. Me and DS2 were both ill in the night and i'd been up and down, so when DH came in and said it was the morning and time to get up and feed DD, i thought i felt shit, but as it's dark at 6.30 anyway i didn't really question it. She was hysterical and crying 'boo'. Then i was feeding her and I checked the time and it was only 4am. I told dh and he took her back to bed but she was then asking for boo and crying the rest of the night and i got up and fed her again at 6am. She has then wanted another feed at 9am and has gone down for an early nap.

Ah, sorry Mrs K didn't realise. I'm following plan you sent me- so staying with dd, cuddling when she's standing up in the cot, talking and singing to her - so am I doing cc? It's working anyway- last night down at 730 with minimal complaints, wake at 130- no feed and just soothed from my bed till she fell asleep 10 mins later, wake again at 345- no feed and took 45 mins but she just complained didn't actually cry. Wake at 650- fed in my bed and we both fell asleep again till 9! I cannot thank you enough for the guidance .

Sorry it's not going well for you atm, and that you aren't well. I'm sure that makes it 10x harder. Bright side is she made it till 4am! That's pretty good in my book. Try to take it easy today. Just do what you need to, to make it though the day (and night).

That's fantastic. I'm so glad the plan is working for you. I would describe it as extremely gentle cc and a bit of gradual retreat. The difference with those is that, generally from what i've read, you don't touch/make eye contact/sing/sooth them. So it's a very very gentle process.

My throat is really sore and my left gland is up like a golf ball and my tongue feels big. It's so painful to swallow and my left ear is hurting. I can hardly open my mouth to speak. I am going to the dr tomo if it is the same.

We're meant to be off skiing in 2 weeks. So i hope to be better.

Anyway DD went down well - she looks forward to bed and starts saying 'nanight' and blowing kisses and asking for boo at 6.15. DS1 took 55 mins of hair twirling ('mummy hair' has returned!) and has just gone and DS2 who has been poorly napped a lot today and is now full of beans.

I'm going to order some really hot Tom Yum soup and go to bed.

Good luck tonight all.

Fanny - are you thinking of names? I love choosing baby names

I'm laying in bed with dd asleep on the boob. i just needed to rest. i'vefucked it all up. :(

MrsK don't be so hard on yourself. You've all been ill and you've got a lot on your plate. If you're going away in a couple of weeks, chances are you'll have to backtrack anyway, so just take it easy. It's a slow process anyway, so be kind to yourself. I love choosing baby names! I've got loads of girls names but DP is set on one boys name. I refused to settle on DD's name until after she was born.

MrsK you've not fucked up at all! You're ill- sometimes you just need to get through- and the fact that you can rest is brilliant. You are working towards independent sleep, but you still need to meet your families needs, and your own. Let it slide a couple of days and get well. When you are feeling better then start again. X

Fanny - my husband and I couldn't agree on a boys name- so just as well we had a girl!
Can I suggest Sebastian for a boy? Or Theodore? I love Theodore but husband said no way

I love both of those drink, but DP probably won't sway from the name he's chosen, which I actually really like, so I probably shouldn't overthink it. Girls names on the other hand....I have a huge list!

DD has slept through the night for 4 nights in a row! She's lulling me into a false sense of security I reckon 🤔 she's getting up at 5.30, would love it to be 6.30 but shouldn't really complain. I'm not getting much more sleep though as DP's snoring keeps me awake. He's away this weekend so hopefully I'll get a couple of solid nights.

Drink I've been doing CC with DD and it's worked so well for us. I only chose to do it this way because DD had previously been able to self settle and had just stopped doing it because she preferred to be in my bed, so it was more like reminding her of what she used to do than introducing something completely new.

We've had a rubbish night. DD was very unsettled from the off, and needed resettling every sleep cycle, I ended up bringing her in with me at 12 so we could both get some sleep.
Means tonight will be hard- but you win some you loose some!

Fanny hope you get some sleep at the weekend, DH drove me potty when I was pg and I relegated him to the spare room by 3 month in!

What happens if you treat 530 as a night time waking?

Sorry you're feeling ill Mrsk. I agree with the others sometimes you just need to do these things.
Glad DH is on board with the pregnancy fanny, how are you feeling? Well done on DD sleeping through the night! Great progress!!
We had a few rough nights after starting nursery. Saturday night he had a raging tempersture again, back to coughing and snotty nose so I brought him in with me & he eventually slept on my chest. Sunday he only had one small nap so I thought the night would be awful but he slept til 6am.
Then yesterday his cold was completely gone, back to his normal cheeky self, normal naps and slept til 7am. Just checked and there's another tooth through! So think that explains the bad weekend.

5.30 seems to be the cut off drink. If she wakes at 4.30 she'll go back to sleep easily. I always lie her back down, give her an extra dummy and put her musical teddy on. If I do that at 5.30 she just cries and stands back up, so I think I'm just gonna have to hope she naturally starts sleeping a bit later.

Boodles I'm feeling fine, which is a good thing and a worry. I'm about 6 weeks and have no symptoms at all, although I didn't have any with DD either so I'm trying not to worry. DD hasn't been ill or teething since November, so we're definitely due one or the other or both soon!

That's good! I never had any symptoms either, everyone kept telling me the sickness would kick in at 6 weeks and it never did. It's great but it does make you worry a bit!
What naps does your DD do throughout the day?

She has 2 naps. 1st one at around 8.30 for about an hour and 2nd one around 1.30 for an hour, sometimes a bit longer. She doesn't seem to be showing any signs of dropping to 1 nap. I'm guessing when she does, she'll sleep longer at night. The thing that drives me mad is DP getting up at 8.30-9 and trying to make me stay up till 11pm with him every night!

That's the same as DS. No signs of going down to 1 nap. It worries me what his nursery are going to do with naps, I really don't want to have to spend the rest of the week with a whingey baby playing catch up. But I suppose he will adjust to it in his own time.

Terrible night here. DS2 didn't go to sleep till midnight. DS1 got up at 3am with a fantastic idea of DH and him playing Minecraft while everyone was sleeping (he really couldn't see the flaw in his excellent time management plan. Why waste time sleeping!!). DD got up for good at 5am so i brought her downstairs.

I felt so rough DH took the boys to school and went to work late. I was crying at the thought of walking them. Just been to the dr and it's tonsillitis and he's given me antibiotics. Fingers x they kick in soon.

Naps are weird with DD she only has about 45 mins a day at about 10.30. My boys were having two 2 hour ones at this age.

Obviously middle of the night Minecraft is a fabulous idea?! Oh poor you MrsK. Tonsillitis is horrible. Get well soon.

We had a 4am wake up here, which was a shame after 4 excellent nights. DD's nappy was wet through so she needed a whole outfit change. That's never happened before. Not sure if there's anything I can do? Would a bigger nappy work?