Anyone want to accompany me while i sleep train DD?

[MrsKoala]

I am starting to sleep train 13mo DD tonight. She has been a terrible sleeper since birth and always co-slept on the boob. I had a consultation with a sleep expert today who has talked me thru a gentle process of sleep training.

I am starting tonight as DH is away for a week from next Thursday, so i want it in place for then. DH is not particularly supportive because he hates them crying (and i love it obviously ) so it would be great if there was someone who was doing theirs at the same time for a mutual support group!

Wow that's great fanny. Sounds like she's well on her way to getting right through.
How was the rest of the night for everyone else? I agree that mrK needs to help you, if he won't cook then can he sort DS for bed?
My DS went all night again, I didn't even hear a peep out of him. I think we might have cracked it! He's woken this morning with an awful cough and he doesn't want to eat his breakfast though so I think he's coming down with something. Still no tooth, but it's so so close!

MrK doesn’t get in till 8. So no help there. Last night he walked in set up his work laptop at the dinner table and worked till 11. He worked while he ate his dinner. Fil has turned up all confused at 4pm so we had him too. This is why nothing gets done!

That’s great Fanny. Dd woke in the night for an hour crying for me. She was furious with dh too. He didn’t get me tho - although I could hear her and was breaking my heart in the other room.

Mrs K, you must be beyond exhausted but it sounds like you’re making some progress. Fingers crossed for you
Boodles and Fanny- I’m jealous! Can I ask- if your babies do wake in the night, do they stand up? Do you go straight in or leave them a while? My baby stands up immediately so keep going in to lie him down. Not sure if it’d be better to leave him....

@mamma2016 sometimes she stands up and sometimes she just sits up. I usually go straight in if she cries. Sometimes she'll just whinge a couple of times and be back asleep by the time I get there, but if it's a proper cry I always go in and lie her back down. She'll usually go straight back to sleep, but if not then I start the CC from the beginning.

DS doesn't really stand up much but I would always go straight in when he cried. It wasn't until I started to leave him and give him a chance to settle that I have seen the improvement of sleeping through the night. If he does cry properly, he will then stand and I'll go in, give him a cuddle and lay him back down, then leave him for 5 mins.
He did used to stand up in his cot for naps and I would be back and forth laying him down again until I gave up and just let him get on with it. He eventually laid down and went to sleep himself and now I tend not to have any issues as he seems to have got it out of his system.

Thanks Fanny and Boodles- much appreciated.
Hoping for silent nights all round!

DD cried from 2.30-3.30am, there's no rhyme or reason to this sleeping malarkey is there?! Also doubly pissed off (and apologies but completely off topic) but AF arrived this morning and we've been TTC so she is not a welcome visitor

Sorry to hear about AF fanny.
The whole sleeping thing is just so inconsistent! When DS used to have a random good night sleep, I would do everything exactly the same the next day, even feeding him the same food. And he would still have a rubbish night the next night. It's so hard trying to work out what works for them and what doesn't!

DD often stands up when i put her in her cot. I used to lay her down but i noticed she just got way more upset as she thought i was picking her up. Now i don't touch her and she eventually lays down and settles herself.

Sorry to hear about AF Fanny. At least you can have some bubbles over xmas tho. Fingers crossed for next month. I can give you my patented, as advised by Madonna, who was advised by Gloria Estefan - so it must be true, TTC tips if you like?

We had a similar night Fanny- pop at 2am then wouldn’t resettle. I ended up sleeping on his floor with my hand on his chest from 3:30. Prob not helpful for the sleep training but I was so desperate to sleep by then I didn’t care. He was awake again by 5:30 and I took him into bed with me. Another thing I said I’d stop doing! I think we need to start leaving him longer. He stands, throws his dummy and then cries. Sometimes he dozes off while standing and then falls. I think he needs to learn to lie down himself like your DD Mrs K.

Sorry about the AF arrival, Fanny. Enjoy some Christmas drinks and I wish you luck for next month. Hope your little one has a better night tonight.

I've had an awful day with DS. He's got a nasty cough, full of snot and that bloody tooth is slowly creeping through. He's barely napped today and is just non stop crying. I've given him Calpol, Nurofen, teething gel, powder, liquid everything but nothing works and the poor little soul just looks at me crying his eyes out.
He fell asleep on me about 5pm but I woke him up after about 10mins cos I had already started his dinner. He went straight down for bedtime barely having any milk so I'm guessing tonight is going to be a tough one.
Any suggestions for teething?

A big glass of wine! Other than that, just get thru it with cuddles and call and as best you can.

DD went down amazingly tonight. She just laid down in her cot and cuddled her MyHuggy bear (set to heart beat - she likes that best) and went to sleep.

DS2 is still coughing and vomming in the bed at night so i have to have the basin at the ready. DS1 is very pale too and really subdued - today he climbed in the buggy and said he was freezing and just went firm under a coat for half an hour. I thought he was going to chuck, but he rallied.

I'm still feeling shite. I went to DH's xmas do last night and tho i only had a couple of drinks and we were home by 11pm i have set myself back massively. My throat is really sore again and my voice is going. I'm going to have honey and lemon and paracetamol and go to bed i think. DH is also coming down with it just for xmas. Hoo-fucking-ray.

Good luck tonight everyone.

I've got a nice glass of prosecco. He has already woken once and I just gave his dummy. Poor thing is so upset. Hard to see him like that when he's such a smiley, happy boy.
Great start for your DD! That's a real improvement, well done. Sorry you and DS are still feeling ill though. Definitely take everything you can before bed and try to get some rest, maybe an early night if possible.

Thank you all!! DP thinks I'm bonkers for wanting another baby considering I do everything and he just does the fun stuff, but it would complete our family.

DD went down with no fuss tonight. Our living room has a secret door into DDs room, so I'll set up a bed on the sofa and will probably end up on there at some point tonight. Hope everyone gets some sleep.

@boodles101 Maybe not ideal for the night, but have you tried giving him a damp flannel that's been in the freezer for a while to chew on? Other than that, you're doing everything I'm doing. DD has an amber anklet as well, which may be a load of rubbish, but I'm covering all bases.

Thanks I will try the flannel tomorrow. He had an amber anklet a few months ago but I lost it and he wasn't too bad with his first 2 teeth so I didn't bother getting a new one. I might have to though. He's already been up 5 times so I've settled in bed with him for tonight. DH is taking the spare room & hopefully it won't set us back.
I would also love another one soon but still no AF since before getting pregnant first time so I'm trying to keep my mind off it for now! Hopefully some time next year would be a good time for us to TTC #2.

DS was up from 12-2am then slept til 6. He seems alot happier this morning and is playing with his toys. I think his tooth has broken through slightly but he won't really let me look! Hopefully yesterday and last night were the worst of it.
How did everyone else get on last night?

Not a great night here. DS1 had an asthma attack at 1am and DD was up 2-4am with DH. I worked out we have been ill for the whole month of December. Pile of arse.

As for TTC i got pregnant when both my boys were 15mo. So they are all 2 years apart. I look at DD and think that's like me getting pregnant in a months time! It seems totally crazy. She is smooch more of a dependant baby than the first 2. They self weaned at 8 months and were not attached to me at all. DS1 ion particular couldn't care less if i was present. But DD is like they were at 9mo. I also still haven't had a period as i feed so much.

DH was making other baby sounds the other day. I have told him i don't really want another. While i do feel sad in a way i wont have any more, i don't think i could cope. He said he'd for a better paying job and we could get a FT nanny, but i still just want to move on. I want to go on non miserable holidays. I want to take the kids to museums and restaurants without trailing after a baby. And after 2 sections and a 3rd degree tear i don't think my body would recover that well again. My pelvic floor is fucked.

Mrs K, it must feel like this illness will never end. Really hope you’re all feeling well soon. Sounds like your DD is making good progress with settling herself.
Boodles I hope your little one is better soon too and is back to his happy self for Xmas.
Fanny hope your night continued to be as good as the start.
Good night here- he slept until 5 with only one brief cry out at 11 ish. I got a whole six hours of uninterrupted sleep and feel so much better for it. Couldn’t get him to resettle in his cot at 5 so brought him in with me so we all got to sleep until 7. Every time he does this get all excited that this will be the new normal and then we have a week of bad nights so I’m not getting my hopes up!
I’m desperate for #2 by OH is too scared after my first pregnancy had some complications and the birth was rather traumatic (more so for him than me). Hoping I can persuade him by this time next year- I’d love our baby to have a sibling.

Please don't have another one. Is your contraception sorted?

Isa Whether that was aimed at once of us in particular or all of us, I'm sure we're all old enough and informed enough to know what we want and how to go about preventing it!!

We had a reasonably good night, DD woke up once and settled after 15 mins.

We've been TTC for 7 months. I wanted 2 close in age and I'm nearly 40, so I feel like time is running out. DP doesn't really understand how tough it is each month it hasn't happened.

Fanny I'd say that's more than a reasonably good night! Sounds great!

It's okay Fanny - Isa was talking to me. No, no contraception yet, i'm going to get another coil in the new year i think. We aren't taking any risks tho. We don't get much time alone!

Fanny - your night sounds good. I know how you feel about each month being disappointed. We tried for 8 months with ds1. I was 35 and convinced it wasn't going to happen. With DC2 & 3 it happened immediately. I'm 41 after xmas and i do feel the pressure of time.

I know you haven't asked for my TTC advise but i''ll tell you what worked for us anyway. Upside down bicycles. Straight after hoik your legs in the air and pedal like mad, stay like that for at least 10 mins. If nothing else it's quite funny and you and dh can laugh about it and do a bit of a workout at the same time!

Yes, that was Koala exclusive and I've talked to her about it before in an old username.

Coil asap is a good choice I think Mrs K.