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New SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK thread - are we still here?

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PavlovtheCatthatgottheCremeEgg · 07/04/2007 12:04

Another thread. My didn't we get full quickly! night sleeping good. Naps...not even 5 mins so far today...

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amijee · 13/04/2007 16:15

actually pavlov - that is quite inspiring. The travelling is very familiar - jetlag and exhaustion are a killer aren't they?

I'm really glad it all worked out for you and hope you can hang in here to give us some encouragement.

Amberjee -it feels like it's ages away but you WILL get there. I think babies naturally develop a better night time pattern around 8 mths so just hang in there.

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 16:30

Amijee-Amberjee - I dont know other babies, but I really think that for our LO, it was her time so to speak. It will happen Amber - just need to make sure you continue with what you are doing, keep a routine of sorts even if it does not seem like one.

Its amazing how my DD has changed her sleeping patterns, not a month ago I would not dream of going into her room after she went to sleep in case I disturbed her, and I would have as her sleep was so tentative and light, and I did not know when she slept deeply as she woke easily. Now, the last two days, at 10pm ish, I have crept into her room and she has been deeply asleep and I have stroked her face and she has not even stirred. It was wonderful. DP has always wanted to do it and I have been like 'nooooooooooooo, you will wake her'! yesterday he went in too and just stared at her sleeping!

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 16:31

Amber - how old is your LO?

Amberjee · 13/04/2007 17:23

that's amazing pavlov - what a change. my LO is 3.5 months, so early days isn't it. but when the nights are so so bad, it can seem like an eternity. i seem to function a little better these days without sleep than i used to. i think i've just grown accustomed to it. and somehow today i've baked muffins, cooked poached fish for dinner, gone to a breastfeeding group and had tea in the park with other mums. sure feel like superwoman. so at least the fatigue is not so debilitating these days as it used to be. i used to cry most days because i was so tired, but now i just try to deal with it. i'm grateful that LO is now quite happy to sit in the kitchen with me while i do stuff. not so long ago he demanded to be held 24/7. i still think he'd like to be held all night if he had his way.

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 17:40

Amberjee - omg you are superwoman! If you can find the time, I have some baking needs doing too!! I am lucky if I manage to get the vacuuming done (am halfway through that now, with LO strapped to me, jinglely thing in hand!).

I have to say tho, might sound weird but I feel more tired the last few days than I usually do!!! Perhaps I used to run on adrenailine and now my body is like, right getting some extra sleep are we?

Did you read the article in the times which said that on average, women lose 2 months of sleep in the first year of babies lives? I would say that those on this thread have lost a lot more than that!!

cruisemum1 · 13/04/2007 18:12

pavcat - that is fantastic!!! . don't goooo though... I am getting there butnot brave enough you leave you all yet. night night

Tamdin · 13/04/2007 18:20

i don't think any of us have to leave why can't we start another thread/club. something like we were weak but now we're strong........

Amberjee · 13/04/2007 18:24

i feel like i've lost 2 months of sleep already...

Elsy · 13/04/2007 18:36

Thanks for all your advice. Actually, last night was the best night we'd had for ages. My DH slept with the baby to give me a break, although I still had to do the feeds (bottle-refusing baby!). At least I didn't start at her every rustle, waiting for her to wake up. Amazingly, he slept through her loud crying, which I heard clearly upstairs, feed and nappy change and asked me in the morning if she'd woken in the night! Am trying at the moment to wean her off feeding to sleep at night. Not much success so far though as am not brave enough to do CC yet. May attempt it when she's a little bit older though if broken nights continue.

cruisemum1 · 13/04/2007 19:35

elsy on your good night. atyour dh for not hearing!!! how is that that the male race can block out their own child's cries?. if ds cries in the night it is like a million volts surging through my body - adrenalin pumping and maternal red alert . it it helps elsy, i bf to sleep and have recently done cc and still bf to sleep at bedtime. it is possible i think to bf to sleep the first time and then have them resettle themselves on subsequent wakings. it is the equivalent of reading a book to get you to sleep but not needing to read a chapter every time you wake (that's my theory anyway ). hope tonight is good for you all....

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 20:01

Elsy - I just told my DP about yours, he said 'see? Its not just me!!!' LOL. It real;ly bugs me, up all night and he says, oh what a great night, she didnt wake at all!!! Er, yes, she did, like 5 times!!! Also have a DD who wont take a bottle. I have pretty much given up trying. Well I offer it once a day, she might take 2oz or so, she likes to hold it and play with it, but onylreally for her fun not for anything much else. I do count it tho! I just fill her up on dairy during the day, as I am hoping to wean off the day feeds, or at least one of them very very soon (due to working now). DP want me to stop bf at 12 months, omg thats soon!

Seeing as you all asked so nicely, I shall stay! I like the idea of the new thread...

cruisemum1 · 13/04/2007 20:20

should we call it "patience is a virtue"?

amijee · 13/04/2007 20:46

not sure i qualify for the new thread yet - still abit unpredictable. does this ever happen to any of you? LO stops crying in middle of night and you still hear the cries and can't sleep. am i goin psychotic??

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 20:53

Amijee - I reckon we can all go on it, I dont think I will ever feel sure I got it sorted, She did not have lots of boob this evening due to eatin excessively so I am as we speak awaiting the sounds of her 'huhuhuhing' which means 'I am hungry'!!!
Its not quite sleep, but its related...here is what she ate today,

7:00am - BF x 2 (as she missed two feeds at night!)
8:30am. Toast and philly, prolly half a slice? Baby muesli, most of a pot.

10:30am - BF, one x lots (due to missed feed!)

1:30pm - large (tommee tippee baby pot) of fish, tomato and veg, two bits of brocolli, two bits of pasta and pesto, one peice of cheese, 3/4 pot of rice pudding

3:00pm. BF.

4:30pm 1+ 1/2 pots ypghurt (did not like the veg and lentils I cooked!)

6:30pm - 3/4 pot porridge
7:00pm - BF - sleep.

Growth spurt or what?!!

MaeWest · 13/04/2007 21:02

amijee - I get the phantom cries thing too sometimes, weird isn't it? Also when I'm really tired I kind of hallucinate that DS is cuddled up next to me feeding, when he's really next door in his cot asleep (had this a lot when he was newborn).

pav - my DS is one of the youngest on the July postnatal thread, so am holding out hope for the 9 month mark. He can already do longer naps in the day (usually has 90 mins in the morning) but still boob him down. Still also think that his disturbed sleep has a lot to do with teeth. He is chomping and dribbling like anything, think might be the top set (he already has bottom two)

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 21:07

Mae - I think you are right about teeth, DD has been teething for a while and now has 4 on top, seems to be sleeping since they came through, dribbling loads.

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 21:11

Am off for the night all, DP and I are going to Restuarant DD! (our front room with candles, incense and Indian Take-away!)

PavlovtheCat · 13/04/2007 21:12

Forgot to say - sleep well, fingers crossed for a good night for all

gingerninja · 13/04/2007 21:31

Pav, Cruise, Tam really pleased to hear about your success but so sorry to hear about you all leaving . Think I'll have to bolt if you all leave me. Maybe it's time for me to stop obsessing about the lack of sleep anyway. It's all consumming isn't it? Still this thread has really helped me through some rough patches and hopefully it will continue to help others. DD has already woken half a dozen times this evening since going to bed an hour and a half ago so not holding out much hope for tonight.

Sleep tight all

Tamdin · 13/04/2007 21:34

ginger don't worry ain't goin anywhere. would miss you all. oh ds stirring.....see you're not alone x

cruisemum1 · 14/04/2007 06:59

mornin! he did it!! 7:15pm - 6:35am - not a murmer . not leaving you yet, don't feel safe enough yet!

cruisemum1 · 14/04/2007 09:03

ginger- hope your night was ok

Tamdin · 14/04/2007 09:06

cruise your world must seem even sunnier today x

gingerninja · 14/04/2007 09:17

Cruise, really really happy for you and well done to your clever little man.

Our night wasn't too bad, just a couple of wakings and one feed.

She's defo dropping her 11 o'clockish feed. She's only taking a couple of ounces and still waking a couple of hours later for a proper feed. I'd just prefer her to drop the one in the night

amijee · 14/04/2007 12:13

oh my god - huge to you cruise - that's amazing!! Who would have thought it 2 weeks ago.

I know we will never achieve that level of sleep duration as ds is done after about 9-10 hrs sleep. But we had our best night ever too!! We all went to the pub last night and ds fell asleep there at 8pm ( I was panicking thinking he's not gonna sleep until midnight) Anyway, got home, woke him up at 8.30pm, did the whole bath stuff and he was sound asleep by 9.15pm. ....didn't hear him until 6am! (the only down side to my sleep was my friend and dh rolling in at 1am!)

So - am very pleased and just hope he has managed to stop waking at 4am.

Love to you all and enjoy the sunny weekend x

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